• North Korea ends non-agression pact, blowing up any South Korean propganda loudspeakers
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[URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/brand/SIG=11f589428/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ap.org%2Ftermsandconditions"] [IMG]http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/ap_logo_106.png[/IMG][/URL] [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks"]Source[/URL] [IMG]http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100525/capt.ab3db6e53bd047f994b5b37ccfb94dcc-ab3db6e53bd047f994b5b37ccfb94dcc-0.jpg?x=400&y=325&q=85&sig=Ux5PwuL6WCr7TXNYJmgh_A--[/IMG] [I]South Korean artillery soldiers take position during an exercise against possible North Korean attacks, in Paju, north of Seoul, South Korea, near the demilitarized zone between the two Koreas, Tuesday, May 25, 2010. South Korea resumed propaganda broadcasts into North Korea in response to a deadly torpedo attack that sank a South Korean warship, officials said Tuesday, amid a report that [highlight][B]North Korea's leader ordered troops to be ready for combat.[/B][/highlight][URL="http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/South-Korean-warship/photo//100525/481/urn_publicid_ap_org_ab3db6e53bd047f994b5b37ccfb94dcc//s:/ap/20100525/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks_36#"] [/URL][/I] [I] (AP Photo/Lee Jin-man)[/I] [quote=Yahoo! News] SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea threatened Wednesday to block cross-border traffic and blow up any South Korean loudspeakers blasting propaganda northward as tensions soared over the sinking of a South Korean warship. The dramatic deterioration in relations came as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton visited Seoul at the end of a three-nation Asian tour that was dominated by the March 26 sinking blamed on a North Korean torpedo attack. "This was an [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]]unacceptable provocation by North Korea[/URL], and the international community has a responsibility and a duty to respond," Clinton told reporters after talks with South Korean leaders. A team of international investigators concluded last week that a torpedo from a North Korean submarine tore apart the 1,200-ton Cheonan off the west coast, killing 46 [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]South Korean sailors[/URL]. South Korea began taking punitive steps Tuesday against the North including slashing trade, resuming propaganda warfare and barring the North's cargo ships. Those were seen as among the strongest it could implement short of military action. The U.S. has said evidence of the North's culpability is overwhelming and has backed the South's measures, but key North Korea ally China has said it is still weighing evidence about the sinking and has done little but urge calm on all sides. "I believe that the Chinese understand the seriousness of this issue and are willing to listen to the concerns expressed by both South Korea and the United States," said Clinton, who visited China before coming to Seoul. "We expect to be working with China as we move forward in fashioning a response." The North flatly denies it caused the sinking and has warned that retaliation would lead to war. On Tuesday, North Korea announced it was cutting relations with South Korea, starting "all-out counterattacks" against the South's psychological warfare operations and barring [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]South Korean ships and airliners[/URL] from passing through its territory. On Wednesday, the North cut off some cross-border communication links and expelled eight South Korean government officials from a joint industrial park in the North Korean border city of Kaesong, South Korea's Unification Ministry said. The North's military also issued a statement warning it would "totally ban" the passage of South Korean personnel and vehicles to an inter-Korean zone in the western coastal area, apparently referring to Kaesong, if South Korea does not stop its psychological warfare. It did not mention another border crossing on the eastern side of the peninsula, which remained open. It said it would shoot at and "blow up" any loudspeakers South Korea installs at the border. Seoul dismantled such devices six years ago amid warming ties, but resumed radio broadcasts Monday into the North and said loudspeakers would be reinstalled within weeks. In Pyongyang, North Korea's capital, army generals vowed to retaliate against South Korea. "We will never tolerate the slightest provocations of our enemies, and will answer to that with all-out war," Maj. Gen. Pak Chan Su, a Korean War veteran, said, according to footage from [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]APTN in Pyongyang[/URL]. "This is the firm standpoint of our People's Army." Ordinary citizens also criticized the South. "The South Korean puppet authorities are raving like a mad man, linking the [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]sinking of the Cheonan[/URL] with us but the truth will be revealed," said Ri Gyong Dok, a Pyongyang resident. "We value inter-Korean relations, but the puppet authorities challenging and scheming for a war — this cannot be tolerated." Despite the rhetoric, North Korea still allowed South Korean workers to cross the border to enter the Kaesong complex Wednesday, according to the Unification Ministry. Kaesong is the last remaining major inter-Korean reconciliation project. It provides [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]badly needed hard currency[/URL] for Kim Jong Il's government and is valued in the South as a source of engagement with the isolated communist country. Both sides have refrained from calling for its closure in their recent statements. South Korean [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]Unification Ministry spokesman Chun Hae-sung[/URL] accused North Korea of taking "menacing" measures and said the South would "deal with these North Korean threats unwaveringly and sternly." South Korea's military said Wednesday there were no signs of unusual activity by [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]North Korean troops[/URL]. South Korea wants to bring North Korea before the U.N. Security Council over the sinking, and has U.S. support. The North and South technically remain at war since the 1950-53 Korean War ended with an armistice rather than a peace treaty. The U.S. and South Korea are planning two major military exercises off the Korean peninsula in a display of force intended to deter [URL="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100526/ap_on_re_as/as_skorea_ship_sinks#"]future aggression by North Korea[/URL], the White House said. The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea. Also Wednesday, more than 3,000 South Korean veterans of the Korean and Vietnam wars and their family members rallied in Seoul, burning an effigy of Kim Jong Il and chanting anti-North Korea slogans. ___ Associated Press writers Sangwon Yoon and Matthew Lee and AP photographer Young-joon Ahn contributed to this report.[/quote] tl;dr North Korea cutting all ties with South, U.S deems it odd (Which it is since they relay on South) after South Korea sent propaganda balloons to the North to inform them of the attack. Also loudspeakers blaring propaganda are being set up in the demilitarized zone, extremely close to the North to continue their psychological warfare. Non aggression pact has been abrogated. [quote=WSJ]The North "formally declares that from now on it will put into force the resolute measures to totally freeze the inter-Korean relations, totally abrogate the agreement on nonaggression between the North and the South and completely halt the inter-Korean cooperation," it said in the announcement.[/quote] ([URL="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266274070314374.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us"]Source[/URL])
War is on.
Lé fuck...
Everyone who lives in Korea,rate me dumb.
Shit has hit the Fan. If China sides with NK this could be like Fallout 3
shit just got korealan
As wrong as it may be, this is exciting.
Well fuck
[QUOTE=Thundermanz;22181698]This wont be war just against Korea's,all world superpowers will be in it.[/QUOTE] Let's hope they will be smarter than this, though it's a possibility that they won't. I know what you mean, and right now, I'm fucking afraid this will really happen.
NK is shut a shit country.
Oh god here we go
[QUOTE=The mouse;22181705]Shit has hit the Fan. If China sides with NK this could be like Fallout 3[/QUOTE] This isn't the 50's, China have alot more to risk economically. If they stop trading with the west, they'd lose an awful big chunk of their economy. I'm predicting it'll be nothing more than a civil war, rather than a proxy one.
I read the title as "North Korea signs non-aggression pact", I was like: "Finally they do something smart", then I re-read it,: "THOSE IDIOTS!"
Despite the rather alarmist title, NK hasn't done anything but throw around a few threats, as usual. Christ, it seems most FPers actually [I]want[/I] a war that'll leave hundreds of thousands dead.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;22181867]Despite the rather alarmist title, NK hasn't done anything but throw around a few threats.[/QUOTE] Yeah, they said this days ago too
[QUOTE=The mouse;22181705]Shit has hit the Fan. If China sides with NK this could be like Fallout 3[/QUOTE] :ohdear:
The fan has made first contact with shit [editline]12:07PM[/editline] I hear Blizzard's servers are being lagged by the SK's training exercises
i hate the way you idiots all make posts going 'OMG SHITS ABOUT TO HIT THE FAN!!' and 'WORLD WAR 3!!!!!' when its just NK dick waving. go make banmes [editline]05:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;22181903]The fan has made first contact with shit [editline]12:07PM[/editline] I hear Blizzard's servers are being lagged by the SK's training exercises[/QUOTE] wow even intelligent mods are doing it
I'd like to point out that despite threatening to blow stuff up last week, North Korea as of yet hasn't. And doesn't show any signs of actually doing it. And has threatened stuff like this in the past, multiple times.
China will not help NK... I know they have a treaty saying they will that lasts until after 2020 even, but China still relies heavily on markets outside their own... In 10 years from now, China could get away with it, But not now Now they may send supplies and whatnot, and I wouldn't blame them... China is in a very awkward position
:ohdear:
You guys are stupid, nothing is gonna happen. This has happened for the last 20 years and nothing ever came of it.
I dunno... in the back of my mind someone is saying "nothing's gonna happen". It feels different this time though.
Now I wonder. Every time something small happened I was all like "OMG END OF DA WORLD". Now this conflict escalated over the last few weeks and I was "Still skeptical". Oh well, guess I was wrong. Still there's a chance nothing will happen.
Being prime draft age I'm planning my vacation to lovely Canada. I hear its great this time of year.
No need to worry about that... What's america have in terms of Military personnel? 1.3Mil Active, 1.4Mil on reserves? That's plenty!
Oh well, another 50 years of tax money wasted in a pointless war that could end in twelve minutes with nuclear weapons.
If it happens, at least China won't get involved with it. It'll be SK and America vs NK [editline]04:21AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Eudoxia;22182196]Oh well, another 50 years of tax money wasted in a pointless war that could end in twelve minutes with nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE] give this man boxes
Bring it!
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22182196]Oh well, another 50 years of tax money wasted in a pointless war that could end in twelve minutes with nuclear weapons.[/QUOTE] Are you implying that nuclear weaponry should be used?
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