Cameron speaks of his 'heartbreak' if Scotland leaves the UK, as all 3 party leaders travel north
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[quote]Prime Minister David Cameron has made an impassioned plea to keep Scotland in the Union, saying: "I love my country more than I love my party."
Campaigning in Edinburgh, he said the 18 September independence referendum was about more than being "fed up with the effing Tories".
Mr Cameron came to Scotland on the same day as Labour leader Ed Miliband and Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg.
Scots First Minister Alex Salmond said his opponents could not be trusted.
The prime minister told an audience he was often asked whether his Conservative Party would find it easier to win Westminster elections without Scotland, which currently has one Tory MP.
"My answer to that is, I care far more about my country than I do about my party," said the prime minister.
"I care hugely about this extraordinary country, this United Kingdom that we've built together.
"I would be heartbroken if this family of nations that we've put together - and we've done such amazing things together - if this family of nations was torn apart."
Mr Cameron also said the referendum result was irreversible, adding: "Because it's a ballot, I think people can feel it's a bit like a general election, that you make a decision and, five years later, you can make another decision, if you're fed up with the effing Tories, give them a kick and maybe we'll think again.
"This is totally different to a general election. This is a decision about not the next five years, it's a decision about the next century."
Mr Cameron, who along with Mr Miliband, skipped the usual Prime Minister's Questions session at Westminster to campaign, argued the referendum was not about "Scotland versus Britain" but two competing visions of Scotland.
He argued a "No" vote was about keeping Scottish pride, patriotism, and nationhood as well as remaining part of a family of nations.[/quote]
he just doesn't want to be the guy who 'Lost' scotland.
[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;45940751]he just doesn't want to be the guy who 'Lost' scotland.[/QUOTE]
Same reason he went back on his EU referendum; his image is more important than holding promises and the end result is his image us tarnished anyway.
[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;45940751]he just doesn't want to be the guy who 'Lost' scotland.[/QUOTE]
If anyone's to blame for losing Scotland, it's the Labour party. They were the ones who gave Scotland a parliament, they were the ones who lost to the SNP, they were the ones who led the Better Together campaign and they were the ones who couldn't convince their own voters to vote no. What could have David Cameron done?
[QUOTE=The mouse;45940769]If anyone's to blame for losing Scotland, it's the Labour party. They were the ones who gave Scotland a parliament, they were the ones who lost to the SNP, they were the ones who led the Better Together campaign and they were the ones who couldn't convince their own voters to vote no. What could have David Cameron done?[/QUOTE]
Tory Argument Guide -
Blame Labour
Apparently there's a conspiracy theory that the announcement of Royal Baby 2 is a plot to boost pride in the Union
If they vote yes does that mean that steam will give you the option for a Scottish flag
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;45940827]If they vote yes does that mean that steam will give you the option for a Scottish flag[/QUOTE]
More importantly will garry update Flagdog
I would imagine seeing those three trying to woo voters over to the No camp would only make people more resolute in voting Yes.
[QUOTE=smurfy;45940811]Apparently there's a conspiracy theory that the announcement of Royal Baby 2 is a plot to boost pride in the Union[/QUOTE]
What a masterful plan, and so gracefully executed. I wonder who the intricate mind behind this daring scheme might be...
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After two years of not really giving a toss under the impression that the Scots would never ever ever ever want to leave the Union we have two weeks in which the No campaign has made a bollocks of the entire thing and now Cameron and Co. suddenly realise "Oh bollocks! Maybe we should have shown more support for this thing rather than let the charisma vacuum that is Alister 'Don't he look a lot like Sam the Eagle?' Darling and Gordon Browntexturelikesun make knackers of it, better head up to Scotchland and in the final few days and show that we really do care! That won't look desperate will it? Nah, of course not!"
I mean really, they only really show a vague interest in it for the duration of the campaign then as soon as it looks like it's going the other way it's battlestations everyone!
Good grief!
to be fair to him, cameron coming up here is basically a lose lose. Him being here makes it clear to everyone that he's really just doing this because his job is on the line. If he didn't come here and/or sent someone else representing him up, he'd be criticised for not giving a shit.
[editline]10th September 2014[/editline]
at least he didn't do this
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[QUOTE=Chrisordie;45940898]After two years of not really giving a toss under the impression that the Scots would never ever ever ever want to leave the Union we have two weeks in which the No campaign has made a bollocks of the entire thing and now Cameron and Co. suddenly realise "Oh bollocks! Maybe we should have shown more support for this thing rather than let the charisma vacuum that is Alister 'Don't he look a lot like Sam the Eagle?' Darling and Gordon Browntexturelikesun make knackers of it, better head up to Scotchland and in the final few days and show that we really do care! That won't look desperate will it? Nah, of course not!"
I mean really, they only really show a vague interest in it for the duration of the campaign then as soon as it looks like it's going the other way it's battlestations everyone!
Good grief![/QUOTE]
Well the Yes campaign has a built-in advantage because if Cameron and co get really involved in campaigning then this is a debate for Scotland and those Westminster fucks should stay out of it, but if they stay out of it they're aloft cunts who don't care about Scotland.
They chose to largely stay out of it and leave it to Scottish people like Darling and Brown, but now they're forced to get involved directly because it's not going well.
[QUOTE=smurfy;45940936]Well the Yes campaign has a built-in advantage because if Cameron and co get really involved in campaigning then this is a debate for Scotland and those Westminster fucks should stay out of it, but if they stay out of it they're aloft cunts who don't care about Scotland.
They chose to largely stay out of it and leave it to Scottish people like Darling and Brown, but now they're forced to get involved directly because it's not going well.[/QUOTE]
Gordon Brown was exactly right when he said anyone that shows up with anyone of them will immediately lose support for their side.
At this point I'm convinced they want to lose so the US and the rest of the UK can liberate us from our WMDs.
[QUOTE=bravehat;45941246]Gordon Brown was exactly right when he said anyone that shows up with anyone of them will immediately lose support for their side.
At this point I'm convinced they want to lose so the US and the rest of the UK can liberate us from our WMDs.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I'm waiting for Putin to announce his concern about the oppression of ethnic Russians in Scotland and the ensuing annexation.
to be honest the only thing will annoy me about Scotland leaving is if the £ drops in value because I really could do with a a strong £ to buy foreign currency
[QUOTE=NorthernFall;45941271]Personally, I'm waiting for Putin to announce his concern about the oppression of ethnic Russians in Scotland and the ensuing annexation.[/QUOTE]
Then because scotland doesn't want to spend much on its military it won't be part of NATO so the UK sit idly by while self defence forces land in hover crafts painted with peacekeeper logos.
[QUOTE=Marzipas;45940910]at least he didn't do this
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didn't know i lived in a scottish city
Breaking the Union would upset me greatly.
I blame Salmond and his unending lies. Damn the man.
[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;45940751]he just doesn't want to be the guy who 'Lost' scotland.[/QUOTE]
Salmond just wants to be remembered as that guy that "Made Scotland independent."
if scotland becomes independent, will the royal family still have dominion over it?
[QUOTE=proboardslol;45942098]if scotland becomes independent, will the royal family still have dominion over it?[/QUOTE]
Probably, or just outright yes
Making a case for independence is contentious enough without having to start a completely separate debate about republicanism, which the top dogs of the snp are probably not in favor of anyways.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;45942098]if scotland becomes independent, will the royal family still have dominion over it?[/QUOTE]
Yep, SNP wants to keep the monarchy and no one is arguing with them
[QUOTE=proboardslol;45942098]if scotland becomes independent, will the royal family still have dominion over it?[/QUOTE]
Yeah we've said we'll still keep the Monarchy.
Why would Scotland want to keep the Monarchy when achieving independence?
[QUOTE=proch;45942624]Why would Scotland want to keep the Monarchy when achieving independence?[/QUOTE]
People wouldn't vote for them otherwise.
[QUOTE=proch;45942624]Why would Scotland want to keep the Monarchy when achieving independence?[/QUOTE]
It's the same as like, all other countries that gained independence from the empire mostly.
It retains a sense of history.
David Cameron is less popular in Scotland than Windows 8. He can't change anything by campaigning up here.
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