• Capitalistic haters of dear leader boos Glorious Leader Putin!
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[release][B]RUSSIAN prime minister Vladimir Putin was subjected to an unprecedented chorus of boos when he appeared in the ring after a mixed martial arts fight last night.[/B]The tough-guy premier, who is poised to return to the Russian presidency, was jeered loudly after stepping into the ring and congratulating Russian heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko on his hard-fought victory.The start of his speech was drowned out by boos, and the crowd only started to cheer when he praised Emelianenko as a "real Russian hero," AFP reported.Fight-fan Putin has long portrayed himself as macho man through a series of well-managed publicity stunts, such as riding and hunting. But this appearance backfired and was seen as a rare moment of public protest against Putin, who could rule Russia for another 12 years.Mikhail Moskalyov, the director of the Olimpiisky stadium, which hosted the fight, told the Lenta.ru news website that the audience was reacting as the defeated opponent, American Jeff Monson, left the ring. Read more: [URL]http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/russian-fight-fans-boo-putin/story-e6frfku0-1226201792176#ixzz1eL4zdbet[/URL][/release] How dare they boo my lord!
Well, I think my post in the last thread summed up why Putin is a great leader. [quote]Mikhail Moskalyov, the director of the Olimpiisky stadium, which hosted the fight, told the Lenta.ru news website that the audience was reacting as the defeated opponent, American Jeff Monson, left the ring.[/quote] Yeah, sure pal.
Crowd also shouted: "Go Away!"
I don't think this is too likely. Public support is fairly high for Putin, because this cowboy shit unfortunately works most of the time. That's in addition to the massive economic recovery that occurred under his watch (obviously correlation isn't causation).
[QUOTE=Contag;33369573]I don't think this is too likely. Public support is fairly high for Putin, because this cowboy shit unfortunately works most of the time. That's in addition to the massive economic recovery that occurred under his watch (obviously correlation isn't causation).[/QUOTE] On the internet, sure. In Russia, not really. Lots of people are leaving the country simply because he's on his way back into power.
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;33369690]On the internet, sure. In Russia, not really. Lots of people are leaving the country simply because he's on his way back into power.[/QUOTE] Lots of people are leaving the country? Where are you getting this from? This year the Russian Federation experienced a net migratory gain of 250,000 people. [editline]21st November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Conspiracy;33369690]On the internet, sure. In Russia, not really. Lots of people are leaving the country simply because he's on his way back into power.[/QUOTE] On the internet? What? Thanks for the condescension, but I'm pretty sure I have the twelve brain cells necessary to understand that Westerners following a foreign personality cult in a superficial fashion doesn't constitute approval. I'm referring to the approval ratings of the last decade, sourced from the western post-cold war IR literature, where support for Putin and Medvedev is absurdly high.
[QUOTE=Contag;33369714]Lots of people are leaving the country? Where are you getting this from? This year the Russian Federation experienced a net migratory gain of 250,000 people. [editline]21st November 2011[/editline] On the internet? What? Thanks for the condescension, but I'm pretty sure I have the twelve brain cells necessary to understand that Westerners following a foreign personality cult in a superficial fashion doesn't constitute approval. I'm referring to the approval ratings of the last decade, sourced from the western post-cold war IR literature, where support for Putin and Medvedev is absurdly high.[/QUOTE] Speaking for a nation that has a yearly net migratory gain of millions (legal and illegal combined), that feels like almost nothing. [editline]21st November 2011[/editline] Also [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1140779[/url]
[QUOTE=Contag;33369714]Lots of people are leaving the country? Where are you getting this from? This year the Russian Federation experienced a net migratory gain of 250,000 people.[/QUOTE] Probably from [thread=1140779]here[/thread].
[QUOTE=Contag;33369714]Lots of people are leaving the country? Where are you getting this from? This year the Russian Federation experienced a net migratory gain of 250,000 people. [editline]21st November 2011[/editline] On the internet? What? Thanks for the condescension, but I'm pretty sure I have the twelve brain cells necessary to understand that Westerners following a foreign personality cult in a superficial fashion doesn't constitute approval. I'm referring to the approval ratings of the last decade, sourced from the western post-cold war IR literature, where support for Putin and Medvedev is absurdly high.[/QUOTE] Wasn't trying to be condescending, sure he may have been popular before but you stated that public support was fairly high; and I interpreted that as now. Sure there are Putin supporters, but there are a significant amount of very outspoken individuals against him.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;33369772]Speaking for a nation that has a yearly net migratory gain of millions (legal and illegal combined), that feels like almost nothing. [/QUOTE] Russia's immigration and emigration levels are pretty low considering the size of the country. Their emigration is the same as Australia, and populations are ~140 million compared to ~20 million I've mentioned my issues with that news article in that thread as well. Okay, look at this following link of US approval ratings [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm[/url] You see how Reagan only hit 70% in his entire presidency? Now compare that with this article: [url]http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/24/idINIndia-55846320110324[/url] entitled [I]"Putin's approval rating falls to lowest since 2005"[/I] The approval rating that was the lowest since 2005 was [B]69 percent.[/B] This is what I mean by absurdly high. [editline]21st November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Conspiracy;33369821]Sure there are Putin supporters, but there are a significant amount of very outspoken individuals against him.[/QUOTE] Absolutely, and they have to be outspoken as well. They have to make up for the years when they are unable to speak because they've been assassinated by the FSB
Vladimir does get things done, but he does it with brutal methods. It's a question of whether you believe the benefits outweight the cost.
[QUOTE=Contag;33369573]I don't think this is too likely. Public support is fairly high for Putin, because this cowboy shit unfortunately works most of the time. That's in addition to the massive economic recovery that occurred under his watch (obviously correlation isn't causation).[/QUOTE] Frankly the popular image is much more important than what you are actually working towards, George W. Bush drove USA to a couple of wars simply by chanting God Bless America and wearing a cowboy hat.
[QUOTE=Falchion;33370003]Frankly the popular image is much more important than what you are actually working towards, George W. Bush drove USA to a couple of wars simply by chanting God Bless America and wearing a cowboy hat.[/QUOTE] He reached the highest approval rating since 1945 ten days after 9/11 I wish democracy worked better
The majority of Facepunch has a Putin fetish simply because they just base him on the PR photos, so because he's petting a tiger he must be the best leader in the world.
[QUOTE=Contag;33369840]Russia's immigration and emigration levels are pretty low considering the size of the country. Their emigration is the same as Australia, and populations are ~140 million compared to ~20 million I've mentioned my issues with that news article in that thread as well. Okay, look at this following link of US approval ratings [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/presidential-approval-tracker.htm[/url] You see how Reagan only hit 70% in his entire presidency? Now compare that with this article: [url]http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/03/24/idINIndia-55846320110324[/url] entitled [I]"Putin's approval rating falls to lowest since 2005"[/I] The approval rating that was the lowest since 2005 was [B]69 percent.[/B] This is what I mean by absurdly high. [/QUOTE] it is amazing what you can do when you tell others how to vote or get transferred to work in Siberia
Putin is badass. But he is also a corrupt asshole. Everyone in agreement? Good.
[QUOTE=mac338;33370672]Putin is badass.[/QUOTE] Not really, he's just a publicity stuntist.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;33370598]it is amazing what you can do when you tell others how to vote or get transferred to work in Siberia[/QUOTE] That's true. It's also related to the economic success that has occurred while Putin was in charge, and the generally lower expectations of the president and prime minister. The United States has similarity low demands prior to 1945, and this is reflected in the higher approval ratings. [editline]22nd November 2011[/editline] Also, there tends to be alot of similar terrorism rhetoric in order to justify obscene human rights abuses. [editline]22nd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Starpluck;33370726]Not really, he's just a publicity stuntist.[/QUOTE] I'm surprised western countries haven't taken his (PR team's) lead and done as much, if not more than Putin. Why the dumb on the post above?
Because whenever someone posts a picture of Putin they get 800 winner ratings, and if someone badmouths him they get a shower of dumbs.
[QUOTE=Carne;33370584]The majority of Facepunch has a Putin fetish simply because they just base him on the PR photos, so because he's petting a tiger he must be the best leader in the world.[/QUOTE] He's a political realist, which is why I think he is a cunning leader. The publicity stunts are no more different than posters of Stalin standing with groups of children in a collective farm.
Yeah and Stalin was a sweet cupcake, just as Putin.
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