Ebola Case Ruled Out In Ottawa; Belleville Man In Isolation, But Considered "Low Risk"
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[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ebola-virus-ruled-out-in-ottawa-patient-while-man-in-belleville-still-in-isolation-1.2797055[/url]
[quote]Health officials confirmed Monday night that test results for a patient in isolation in Ottawa came back negative for the Ebola virus, while a man with Ebola-like symptoms remains in isolation at a hospital in Belleville, Ont., awaiting blood-test results.[/quote]
[quote]Belleville case 'extremely low risk,' public health officials say
In the other case, a male showed up at the Belleville General Hospital's emergency room with Ebola-like symptoms late Sunday night.
The patient had recently made one stopover in an airport in Sierra Leone, and the hospital described the case as "extremely low risk."
Within four minutes of his arrival at the Belleville hospital, he was placed in isolation, and no other patients in the ER had contact with him, the hospital said.
At news conference Monday afternoon, Belleville's chief medical officer of health, Dr. Richard Schabas, said the patient was not in critical condition and that his blood test results are expected by Tuesday morning.[/quote]
Fucking shit... I go to college here in Belleville. I have confidence that it will return negative, but it's still scary to think about it.
[QUOTE=Daemon White;46227650]
Fucking shit... I go to college here in Belleville. I have confidence that it will return negative, but it's still scary to think about it.[/QUOTE]
Why is it scary? Do you commonly play around in others peoples' urine, feces, or vomit. And when I say "play" I mean rub that shit into your eyes or open wounds.
The hospital knew what was up immediately and took the appropriate action. You are just over-hyped about Ebola; its not as big as a risk as you think.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46227877]Why is it scary? Do you commonly play around in others peoples' urine, feces, or vomit. And when I say "play" I mean rub that shit into your eyes or open wounds.
The hospital knew what was up immediately and took the appropriate action. You are just over-hyped about Ebola; its not as big as a risk as you think.[/QUOTE]
goddamn you are really stupid if you believe that's how you contract this disease
[QUOTE=Daemon White;46227650]
Fucking shit... I go to college here in Belleville. I have confidence that it will return negative, but it's still scary to think about it.[/QUOTE]
At least you didn't have an apartment full of ebola infested items brought to your area.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46227877]Why is it scary? Do you commonly play around in others peoples' urine, feces, or vomit. And when I say "play" I mean rub that shit into your eyes or open wounds.
The hospital knew what was up immediately and took the appropriate action. You are just over-hyped about Ebola; its not as big as a risk as you think.[/QUOTE]
I think you're looking too hard into my comment. I know that it isn't an airborne disease (As currently confirmed by doctors), and it infects people through contact with bodily fluids / excretions. However, I wasn't thinking that it would reach here, as in Belleville, Ontario. Which is reinforcement that it could potentially end up anywhere, and that's a scary thought.
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Also, not entirely sure why it's getting dumbs. Did I post something wrong, or is it my comment?
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46227905]goddamn you are really stupid if you believe that's how you contract this disease[/QUOTE]
How so? From the [URL="http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html"]CDC[/URL]
[quote]Ebola has been detected in blood and many body fluids. Body fluids include saliva, mucus, [B]vomit[/B], [B]feces[/B], sweat, tears, breast milk, [B]urine[/B], and semen.[/quote]
[quote]What does “direct contact” mean?
Direct contact means that body fluids (blood, saliva, mucus, vomit, urine, or feces) from an infected person (alive or dead) have touched someone’s [B]eyes, nose, or mouth or an open cut[/B], wound, or abrasion.[/quote]
I'm not about to look stupid without knowing some knowledge about this.
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[QUOTE=Daemon White;46227928]I think you're looking too hard into my comment. I know that it isn't an airborne disease (As currently confirmed by doctors), and it infects people through contact with bodily fluids / excretions. However, I wasn't thinking that it would reach here, as in Belleville, Ontario. Which is reinforcement that it could potentially end up anywhere, and that's a scary thought.
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Also, not entirely sure why it's getting dumbs. Did I post something wrong, or is it my comment?[/QUOTE]
Gotcha. Yea, anywhere with access to the area is at risk for someone flying back with it. I dont think its a dumb comment, its just how things are
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46227947]How so? From the [URL="http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html"]CDC[/URL]
I'm not about to look stupid without knowing some knowledge about this.[/QUOTE]
From the [url=http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/ebola-virus/pages/ebola-virus.aspx]NHS[/url]
[quote]Traditional African burial rituals have also played a part in its spread. [B]The Ebola virus can survive for several days outside the body[/B], including on the skin of an infected person, and it's common practice for mourners to touch the body of the deceased. [B]They only then need to touch their mouth to become infected.[/B][/quote]
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idk where this pathetic propaganda of [I]'YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO SWIM IN SHIT TO BE INFECTED, I SWEAR' [/I]has come from
sneezing has saliva
so
its not like you gotta drink their spit
[QUOTE=FurrehFaux;46227906]At least you didn't have an apartment full of ebola infested items brought to your area.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I wasn't meaning to detract from that event. You guys had / have it worse than we do up here.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46227964]
idk where this pathetic propaganda of [I]'YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO SWIM IN SHIT TO BE INFECTED, I SWEAR' [/I]has come from[/QUOTE]
Chances of you catching Ebola from a surface where they left the virus in public: Slim. Very slim. If its in a private dwelling, yea I can see a higher chance of it, but people would be out there right away to disinfect it.
Combine that with something as simple as washing your hands, you're at a very very low risk of getting it.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46227964]From the [url=http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/ebola-virus/pages/ebola-virus.aspx]NHS[/url]
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idk where this pathetic propaganda of [I]'YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO SWIM IN SHIT TO BE INFECTED, I SWEAR' [/I]has come from[/QUOTE]
From the CDC
[quote]Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). [B]Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours[/B]; however, [B]virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature.[/B][/quote]
It can also be in your semen for like 3 months.
Basically there's a difference.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;46227947]How so? From the [URL="http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html"]CDC[/URL]
I'm not about to look stupid without knowing some knowledge about this.
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I think you still look kinda stupid.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw0hIs2LEg[/media]
Covering your mouth with your hand directly still [B]launches bodily fluids up to 8ft.[/B]
[QUOTE=MadPro119;46228280]I think you still look kinda stupid.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw0hIs2LEg[/media]
Covering your mouth with your hand directly still [B]launches bodily fluids up to 8ft.[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46228018]Actually it's only contained in the larger particles of a sneeze. Which have a range of like 12ish inches. So yes, in order to actually contract it from a sneeze you have to pretty much be within make out range.[/QUOTE]
[quote] if a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person’s eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease.[/quote]
(CDC)
[quote]The virus is not, for example, as infectious as diseases like the flu, as airborne transmission is much less likely. You'd need to have close contact with the source of infection to be at risk. [/quote]
(NIH)
So yes, you could get Ebola from someone sneezing or coughing, but realistically, only if you were point-blank from it. If someone across the room sneezes, you have a low chance of contracting the disease. To add to this, people become the most infectious when they are showing symptoms. These are similar to the flu. You'd have a lot more to worry about than Ebola.
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(NHS) ** Wont let me edit
I have an idea, how about the news stop reporting absolutely every single "Possible case"
Here, let me report every case of the flu, as it's far more threatening to the US then Ebola.
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46228547]That's what I said. People are making ebola out to be some huge airborne threat like TB or the flu, it's not. It's primarily bloodborne with a few other significantly less effective transmission vectors.[/QUOTE]
I was affirming your point. My bad if it reads differently
The point is it ain't a joke. If we buy all this crap about literally rolling in shit and piss being the only method of transmission it's the exact same thing as endangering ourselves. An infinitesimal chance is increased a millionfold when you're talking about it on a population scale. Sure, one person is particularly unlikely to spread a disease, but what if two, five, ten people are actively participating in society and the virus is still latent? It can take what, twenty days at maximum to begin showing symptoms, with a suggested time of seventeen days?
Yeah, when it's isolated to a few people and is essentially a foreign disease it isn't a massive problem, and it's never gonna spread like influenza, but the sheer amount of resources required to treat individual patients of this means it should never be dismissed like these dumb infographics have been trying to do.
Yeah fuck me but my eyes itch/hurt all the time and sometimes I scratch/knead them with my fingers and hands to relieve the discomfort. I do the Bruce-Lee flick under the nose sometimes after I sneeze. Fuck all of you "you have to be licking their body fluids" advocates, I'm at a great risk because sometimes I do these things and realize I forgot to wash my hands, and all it takes is one touch.
This "you need to roll in people's body fluid" thing is pretty silly, but so is exaggerating the risk. Without direct contact (<1m) with an infected (with symptoms, asymptomatic people do not transmit the disease) the chance of contacting the disease is extremely slim.
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[QUOTE=CheeseMan;46229022]what if two, five, ten people are actively participating in society and the virus is still latent? It can take what, twenty days at maximum to begin showing symptoms, with a suggested time of seventeen days?.[/QUOTE]
A person is not infectious during the incubation period.
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Also, coughing and sneezing are actually fairly rare symptoms in an Ebola-infected.
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