Reporter Smuggles 3D-Printed Handgun Into Israeli Parliament - Polidicks

[quote]Team program “Night pipeline” of Channel 10, the cameras gun printed using three-dimensional printer, and managed to enter the Knesset with him twice. Written plan also came just a few meters from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Tested plastic gun firing range under the supervision of a retired police stands, and successfully fired a live bullet at a target made of cardboard.[/quote] [URL="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_dd&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.co.il%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F1.2062826"]Source[/URL] Sorry for the Google Translate but I can't find an English source. Key point: The weapon was brought through security with no barrel or ammunition, both of which would have shown up through standard screening. Unlike a carbon-fiber knife.

[QUOTE=catbarf;41327410] Key point: The weapon was brought through security with no barrel or ammunition, both of which would have shown up through standard screening.[/QUOTE] Then no point is really proven, is it? This is like me saying I can smuggle a knife onto a plane because I manage to get the plastic handle with the blade detatched through.

[QUOTE=Riller;41327457]Then no point is really proven, is it? This is like me saying I can smuggle a knife onto a plane because I manage to get the plastic handle with the blade detatched through.[/QUOTE] A knife is not nearly as big of a deal as a handgun

[QUOTE=slashsnemesis;41327517]A knife is not nearly as big of a deal as a handgun[/QUOTE] A handgun without a barrel or bullet is just a lump of; in this case; plastic.

[QUOTE=Riller;41327457]Then no point is really proven, is it?[/QUOTE] Basically, but it does show the levels to which some reports are trying to go to discredit 3D printers and their potential applications. This is pretty much the epitome of sensationalism, smuggling a non-functional part of a weapon and trying to use it to exaggerate a threat. Ultimately a firearm is worthless without ammunition and until they find a way to get ammo through security, the gun itself is harmless. I could point out that a single-shot .22 handgun is not a very dangerous assassination weapon in the first place, but clearly the technology is going to improve from here.

[QUOTE=slashsnemesis;41327517]A knife is not nearly as big of a deal as a handgun[/QUOTE] ok fine he smuggled a bladeless sword or lets up the ante, [t]http://media.techeblog.com/images/frying-pan-sword.jpg[/t] is that dangerous enough :v:

[QUOTE=catbarf;41327410]Key point: The weapon was brought through security with no barrel or ammunition, both of which would have shown up through standard screening. Unlike a carbon-fiber knife.[/QUOTE] Realistically though, you could still hold someone up with this and they would not know the difference.

[QUOTE=Reimu;41327798]Realistically though, you could still hold someone up with this and they would not know the difference.[/QUOTE] tbh the 3D printed gun already looks not much like a gun; even less so without the barrel. most people wouldn't even recognise it as a gun, you'd have better luck with a BB gun or something.

[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;41328029]tbh the 3D printed gun already looks not much like a gun; even less so without the barrel. most people wouldn't even recognise it as a gun, you'd have better luck with a BB gun or something.[/QUOTE] That's true, but it wouldn't be difficult to paint it black, for example, and designs are surely going to change. Reimu, I think you have a point, but I don't think it outweighs the deliberately misleading nature of this 'experiment'. Anyone could take a plastic BB gun, remove any metal components, and use that in much the same way.

of course, the designs will change, however the scenario outlined is hardly exclusive to 3D printed guns; indeed, i would say the article places way too much emphasis on the fact that the gun was 3D printed, it seems to be pretty much hinting at 3D printing and its availability and low price being some sort of new threat to world security or something.

[t]https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR33iaqJqyt9ShmMQuADkLZVBEgfCgDb6j-F6OwSL0H7tuNTxlZ[/t] assuming they were printing the liberator, which the news is going crazy over, if anything it looks like you would be holding people up with a price scanner gun

[QUOTE=Sableye;41328616][t]https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR33iaqJqyt9ShmMQuADkLZVBEgfCgDb6j-F6OwSL0H7tuNTxlZ[/t] assuming they were printing the liberator, which the news is going crazy over, if anything it looks like you would be holding people up with a price scanner gun[/QUOTE] Those guns are horrible, using plastic for a gun will result in it breaking/exploding after a shot or two.

Wouldn't the barrel just melt from the heat? Thats what my brother thinks anyway. I really don't know much about guns.

[QUOTE=Vasili;41328715]Wouldn't the barrel just melt from the heat? Thats what my brother thinks anyway. I really don't know much about guns.[/QUOTE] It will melt causing the other round to basically hit the inside of the gun.

[QUOTE=catbarf;41327410][URL="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&prev=_dd&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.haaretz.co.il%2Fnews%2Fpolitics%2F1.2062826"]Source[/URL] Sorry for the Google Translate but I can't find an English source. Key point: The weapon was brought through security with no barrel or ammunition, both of which would have shown up through standard screening. Unlike a [B]carbon-fiber knife[/B].[/QUOTE] Why would that appear?

[QUOTE=Iago;41328678]Those guns are horrible, using plastic for a gun will result in it breaking/exploding after a shot or two.[/QUOTE] The point of the liberator was to see if 3D printed guns are in any way feasible. When they tested it, they were able to fire several shots before it received any notable damage. Several shots are enough to be lethal.

[QUOTE=Iago;41328678]Those guns are horrible, using plastic for a gun will result in it breaking/exploding after a shot or two.[/QUOTE] Except that it has been tested and used and is able to remain functional after firing. There's plenty of info available about the Liberator online. [QUOTE=JgcxCub;41328930]Why would that appear?[/QUOTE] I said it wouldn't appear, and consequently is just as concealable. And unlike an unloaded pistol, it can be lethal beyond being used as a club.

[QUOTE=Leo Leonardo;41329536]The point of the liberator was to see if 3D printed guns are in any way feasible. When they tested it, they were able to fire several shots before it received any notable damage. Several shots are enough to be lethal.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/x-reasons-why-3d-printed-gun-nothing-to-worry-aboutph/"]It's still a piece of garbage however.[/URL]

One precise shot is enough, in which case the 3d printed gun will do the work. One dead president is enough. fixed : Prime Minister*

[QUOTE=Iago;41328678]Those guns are horrible, using plastic for a gun will result in it breaking/exploding after a shot or two.[/QUOTE] One shot is all that would be needed

[QUOTE=MoarFunz;41330048]One precise shot is enough, in which case the 3d printed gun will do the work. One dead president is enough. fixed : Prime Minister*[/QUOTE] You're not going to get a precise shot with a 3d printed gun. You would have to literally be point blank if you have any hopes of hitting a person where it would be lethal.

[QUOTE=Riller;41327457]Then no point is really proven, is it? This is like me saying I can smuggle a knife onto a plane because I manage to get the plastic handle with the blade detatched through.[/QUOTE] Though if an accomplice were to get a blade on the plane, then you would have a functional weapon. Same concept here. [b]e:[/b] This seriously reminds me of the ending of [I]In the Line of Fire.[/I]

This thread is full of people who know literally nothing about firearms, concealed munitions, the fact that they already can use plastic projectiles, or security measures in the first place. If your security team permits entry under a simple x-ray scanner, then you are, hands down, asking for a threat to occur that cannot be controlled. [sp]The magical world of pat-downs![/sp] The thread of this title may as well have been: SECURITY MEASURES PROVE INSUFFICIENT, IDIOT MODE ENGAGE!

[QUOTE=Super Muffin;41330174]Though if an accomplice were to get a blade on the plane, then you would have a functional weapon. Same concept here. [/QUOTE] this is kind of going a bit off topic, but if an accomplice can get a blade onto the plane, then you may as well do it yourself with the handle attached to it, because one of you knows how to circumvent metal detectors; likewise, if you can smuggle all the metal parts of the gun into a supposedly secure area past a metal detector, you may as well not bother separating them from the rest of the gun, so that's an unnecessary point to argue

so it's still not past the banana under a cloth stage of intimidation?

A rock would do more damage than a plastic gun with no bullets.