Underground art reveals WW1 soldiers' hopes and fears
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[QUOTE]American doctor and photographer Jeff Gusky reveals the underground quarries used by the soldiers of World War One, and the artwork they left behind which illustrates their hopes and fears. Duration [url]http://news.msn.com/world/video?videoid=2b3801c9-ee71-4343-816b-77b496d241f9&ap=true[/url][/QUOTE]
Fallout at 1:03
Though have to admit, very cool art in the video.
I did a lot of war-based art in college revolving around the effects of war on both civilians and soldiers, pretty upsetting to know this kind of stuff gets overlooked. Not sure how people have the guile to harass or talk ill of soldiers when they don't even attempt to understand the average soldier's mindset.
A lot of blind hatred for me and women in service would probably be snuffed out if things like this were shown to the public more often but I don't think it's ever gonna change.
I was not expecting Vault Boy.
[QUOTE=spekter;46074894]I did a lot of war-based art in college revolving around the effects of war on both civilians and soldiers, pretty upsetting to know this kind of stuff gets overlooked. Not sure how people have the guile to harass or talk ill of soldiers when they don't even attempt to understand the average soldier's mindset.
A lot of blind hatred for me and women in service would probably be snuffed out if things like this were shown to the public more often but I don't think it's ever gonna change.[/QUOTE]
Average soldiers mindset: "Fuckin ayy bruh its 1630 on a Friday why the fuck are we mustering right now, my liberty started a half hour ago."
[QUOTE=spekter;46074894]I did a lot of war-based art in college revolving around the effects of war on both civilians and soldiers, pretty upsetting to know this kind of stuff gets overlooked. Not sure how people have the guile to harass or talk ill of soldiers when they don't even attempt to understand the average soldier's mindset.
A lot of blind hatred for me and women in service would probably be snuffed out if things like this were shown to the public more often but I don't think it's ever gonna change.[/QUOTE]
I hate that too, i find it stupid how people judge soldiers or military personnel even though they never been in the crazy shit they had to deal with. Just hate how stupid people could be.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;46076479]I hate that too, i find it stupid how people judge soldiers or military personnel even though they never been in the crazy shit they had to deal with. Just hate how stupid people could be.[/QUOTE]
I work for the gov't and have lived on many bases and work on various ones.
The average armed member of the armed forces does not do shit. They're just a bunch of kids who act like such. You got people who look at it as a normal job, some look at it as a joke, others power trip and get stupid, you also got people who are pretty cool and look at the military is a true career and life changing experience.
Yes you have people who come back from war and changed, yes they don't deserve to be talked down too. But i would hardly put a member of the armed forces on a pedestal.
However; there are a very rare breed of service men and woman who deserve the utmost respect. However they're very far and few between.
[QUOTE=spekter;46074894]I did a lot of war-based art in college revolving around the effects of war on both civilians and soldiers, pretty upsetting to know this kind of stuff gets overlooked. Not sure how people have the guile to harass or talk ill of soldiers when they don't even attempt to understand the average soldier's mindset.
A lot of blind hatred for me and women in service would probably be snuffed out if things like this were shown to the public more often but I don't think it's ever gonna change.[/QUOTE]
I don't understand hate for soldiers, but don't understand love for them either. They are just "there."
I don't mean this to be disrespectful, but it's honestly difficult to get an answer for "why should we respect soldiers" that isn't some hopped up form of cultural/ethical imperialism or misplaced patriotism. Unless soldiers are conscripted against their will and are selflessly defending a country against an openly hostile and completely morally black-and-white good vs evil land invasion, then I just can't see a reason why a soldier would be deserving of tremendous respect. Sure their job is tough, but that's what they signed up for; whatever their reasons may have been. I just don't see why that's more warranting of respect than a guy who chose to climb a mountain or somebody who just has to deal with the mental drudgery of a completely pointless and menial day job.
With that said though "hating" soldiers is dickish, since the soldiering profession is basically just a product of how we choose to run our societies and foreign affairs, for which everybody is equally guilty. If anything the pain and suffering of war is not a reason to respect soldiers, but more just a time for reflection on the human condition, and should be interpreted as such. War is best viewed through the prism of how it affects common people, be they soldiers or civilians, and should not be used as an opportunity to glorify or romanticize the soldiering profession.
[QUOTE=SexualShark;46075753]I was not expecting Vault Boy.[/QUOTE]
Vault Boy was spraypainted by some dickheads, not part of the original art in the cave.
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[QUOTE=JeremyPS;46077267]Vault Boy was spraypainted by some dickheads, not part of the original art in the cave.
Also, [url]https://www.youtube.com/user/sexualobster[/url][/QUOTE]
Well better Vault Boy than the Anarchy symbol in my opinion, plus the picture doesn't look like it was done over any of the art, so there's that.
[QUOTE=JeremyPS;46077267]
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Am I missing something? How is this related?
[QUOTE=matt000024;46077476]Am I missing something? How is this related?[/QUOTE]Looks like advertisement to me
[QUOTE=matt000024;46077476]Am I missing something? How is this related?[/QUOTE]
Sexual shark.
Sexual lobster.
I think.
How exactly is Vault Boy in that? Is it some newer graffiti?
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;46079351]How exactly is Vault Boy in that? Is it some newer graffiti?[/QUOTE]
Try reading the thread mate. About 5 posts up.
Cool stuff though, art like this can offer some really amazing insight on history in context. Much better than reading a boring emotionless text book.
[QUOTE=hypno-toad;46077043]I don't understand hate for soldiers, but don't understand love for them either. They are just "there."
I don't mean this to be disrespectful, but it's honestly difficult to get an answer for "why should we respect soldiers" that isn't some hopped up form of cultural/ethical imperialism or misplaced patriotism. Unless soldiers are conscripted against their will and are selflessly defending a country against an openly hostile and completely morally black-and-white good vs evil land invasion, then I just can't see a reason why a soldier would be deserving of tremendous respect. Sure their job is tough, but that's what they signed up for; whatever their reasons may have been. I just don't see why that's more warranting of respect than a guy who chose to climb a mountain or somebody who just has to deal with the mental drudgery of a completely pointless and menial day job.
With that said though "hating" soldiers is dickish, since the soldiering profession is basically just a product of how we choose to run our societies and foreign affairs, for which everybody is equally guilty. If anything the pain and suffering of war is not a reason to respect soldiers, but more just a time for reflection on the human condition, and should be interpreted as such. War is best viewed through the prism of how it affects common people, be they soldiers or civilians, and should not be used as an opportunity to glorify or romanticize the soldiering profession.[/QUOTE]
I think we should respect veterans
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