Quarter of young British people 'do not trust Muslims' - Polidicks

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/24204742[/url] [quote]More than a quarter of 18- to 24-year-olds in Britain do not trust Muslims, a BBC Radio 1 Newsbeat poll suggests. Of the 1,000 young people questioned, 28% said Britain would be better off with fewer Muslims, while 44% said Muslims did not share the same values as the rest of the population. Some 60% thought the British public had a negative image of Muslims. ... Other findings in the Comres survey, conducted in June, include: • Only three in 10 (29%) think Muslims are doing enough to combat extremism in their communities. However, overall young people are more likely to agree (48%) than disagree (27%) that Islam is a peaceful religion • Young people place the blame for Islamophobia in Britain on terror groups abroad (26%), the media (23%) and UK Muslims who have committed acts of terror (21%) • Young people are divided over whether or not immigration is good for Britain overall. Two-fifths (42%) say it is a good thing but more than a third disagree (35%)[/quote]

dammit britian you're getting more anti-muslim than the states

in other news, a quarter of young british people lack critical thinking skills and attribute skin tone to terrorism

[QUOTE=KingArcher;42299927]dammit britian you're getting more anti-muslim than the states[/QUOTE] the usa isn't that "anti-muslim". britain tends to be more "anti-muslim" since they have lots of immigrants of arabian descent. we ARE very "anti-hispanic".

[QUOTE=yawmwen;42299963]the usa isn't that "anti-muslim". britain tends to be more "anti-muslim" since they have lots of immigrants of arabian descent. we ARE very "anti-hispanic".[/QUOTE] america is anti-what-we-think-is-muslim. my town has a good-sized population of indians and they're the butt of all terrorist jokes since the actual middle-easterns aren't as dark as everyone thinks they should be. people were shocked when a hindu temple was built and there were students going around trying to get signatures for a petition to the local government to ban it since they thought it was encouraging terrorism. and yeah we usually hate hispanics

This is kind of scary, that's a large proportion of teens doing some irrational thinking.

honestly i'm surprised it's that low in percentage with the shit i see people spewing it's like people think racism is bad, unless it's against "muslims" then it's not bad or even racism at all

[QUOTE=LoLWaT?;42300022]Most people just call them Mexicans since obviously, everyone with that same shade of skin color came over here illegally from Mexico.[/QUOTE] black = african dark brown = muslim mid brown = muslim or mexican light brown = mexican light light brown = white orange brown = white with tanning bed

[QUOTE=yawmwen;42299963]the usa isn't that "anti-muslim". britain tends to be more "anti-muslim" since they have lots of immigrants of arabian descent. we ARE very "anti-hispanic".[/QUOTE] Aside from some hispanics having a different skin tone there's not much difference between the distrust/dislike some americans have towards them today and the distrust/dislike some americans had towards non-irish/english europeans in the 19th century. Muslim immigrants practice an entirely different [I]religion[/I] from the majority, which some people interpret as being unacceptable all on its own. It's really something we Americans have never experienced, not in noticeably large amounts, anyway.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;42299963]the usa isn't that "anti-muslim". britain tends to be more "anti-muslim" since they have lots of immigrants of arabian descent. we ARE very "anti-hispanic".[/QUOTE] I'm not sure how it weighs up to the UK but the US is pretty Anti-Muslim.

To be fair, the world would be better with fewer Muslims. The same could be said of all religions. When you have people more willing to serve their god/preacher than they are to serve the community around them, that is an issue. The culture clash is going to happen until one side or the other buckles.

[QUOTE=Grimhound;42300370]To be fair, the world would be better with fewer Muslims. The same could be said of all religions.[/QUOTE] i really dont see how except maybe that there would be less r/atheism posts

[QUOTE=Grimhound;42300370]To be fair, the world would be better with fewer Muslims. The same could be said of all religions.[/QUOTE] Sure, but only if atheists that act like you are included as well because you're being just as prejudiced

[QUOTE=Grimhound;42300370]To be fair, the world would be better with fewer Muslims. The same could be said of all religions. [/QUOTE] Well, the world would be better with fewer proactively conservative/radical/ people of any religion. And atheists for that matter, nobody likes an asshole who goes around preaching about how wrong someone's religion is. Atheists should really be a position of "i don't believe in religion nor care for it" and just leave it at that and to themselves. I think that for most religions it's the person, not the religion itself that makes it a bad thing. You could have a religion of peace, happiness, and eternal pacifism and sunshine and a radical member of that religion would still be a very bad thing.

[QUOTE=Reds;42300484]Well, the world would be better with fewer proactively conservative/radical/ people of any religion. And atheists for that matter. I think that for most religions it's the person, not the religion itself that makes it a bad thing. [/QUOTE] what about protestantism which was super-radical and led to the reformation

[QUOTE=Zeke129;42300435]Sure, but only if atheists that act like you are included as well because you're being just as prejudiced[/QUOTE] Oh, I am prejudiced. I am very, miserably prejudiced. I view religion as a hold-over from the stone age that's currently stopping humans from advancing as a species. And there is no middle ground about this. Either a divine being exists, or it does not. And as it doesn't speak up for itself save through those who claim to speak for it, the evidence isn't very kind to that side of things. If you want to serve something, serve humanity. Because this is the only chance for our kind to step up to the call. If we blow it, we're likely going to end up stuck on this rock forever. Even if I never live to see it, I want to die knowing I helped aim things down the right course. And if you worry about community and morality, realize that those are things that you are in control of. Be as the philosophical ubermensch.

[QUOTE=Grimhound;42300502] And if you worry about community and morality, realize that those are things that you are in control of. Be as the philosophical ubermensch.[/QUOTE] ugh, thus groaned zarathustra

[QUOTE=Grimhound;42300370]When you have people more willing to serve their god/preacher than they are to serve the community around them, that is an issue.[/QUOTE] Um, in this particular case their preachers kind of [I]are[/I] part of the community around them. Immigrants build communities, they don't just sit around in an existing one taking orders from some guy miles away. Muslims don't even really have anyone that can do that: the caliphate is long gone and probably never coming back. There are terrorist groups, but they aren't relevant in this situation.

[QUOTE=Reds;42300484] You could have a religion of peace, happiness, and eternal pacifism and sunshine and a radical member of that religion would still be a very bad thing.[/QUOTE] A radical in a pacifistic religion wouldn't be much of a problem. Most religions are two sided. Peasants interpret it in "Poor are blessed", "Violence bad", etc and the wealthier see almost the opposite.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42300537]A radical in a pacifistic religion wouldn't be much of a problem.[/QUOTE] I always end up feeling bad when I see someone throw their life away, regardless of how or why they do it. They're family, damn it.

[QUOTE=Grimhound;42300567]I always end up feeling bad when I see someone throw their life away, regardless of how or why they do it.[/QUOTE] This is perhaps the most condescending thing ever

[QUOTE=.Isak.;42299961]in other news, a quarter of young british people lack critical thinking skills and attribute skin tone to terrorism[/QUOTE] I didn't know only middle easterns could be muslim.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;42300435]Sure, but only if atheists that act like you are included as well because you're being just as prejudiced[/QUOTE] Regail me of all the times that a war was started because an Atheist wanted to destroy a religious group I'm pretty sure that up until the last few hundred years, being an Atheist was one of the worst things possible.

I own up to being in that quarter. It is because at my school all the bullies were muslims. I am not joking, the three people who picked on me most were muslim and they were all backed up by their friends. I do NOT hate them and think they are all terrorists, I just do not trust them.

[QUOTE=.Isak.;42300057] orange brown = white with tanning bed[/QUOTE] Waitaminute. [QUOTE=.Isak.;42300057] orange brown = real father is a Oompa Loompa[/QUOTE] [I]THERE...[/I]

Muslamic ray guns

not really surprising. i think what people have to realize is that humans naturally have an in-crowd mentality - we like to surround ourselves with people that we consider "cool" or "in." this is why children that are different (glasses, deformities) are generally seen as uncool and are bullied. children do this bluntly, and adults do this but on a much higher level. when you have such a wide group of people doing it, it could suggest that there is a systematic problem that is causing this. it's not necessarily saying that young britons are a belligerent and ignorant bunch of xenophobes who do this naturally. it possibly suggests that there is another force pushing the idea that muslims are not worthy of being an "in-group" upon them. i wonder what this force is...

Its pretty much because they came over here, they try to rob us of our money, they take the absolute liberty then they blow up our buses.

To those of you talking about skin tones and ethnic association, you DO have a point... After all, the Zimmerman case was turned into a battle of race because everyone thought Zimmerman was white which is fucking stupid

[QUOTE=katbug;42301302]Regail me of all the times that a war was started because an Atheist wanted to destroy a religious group I'm pretty sure that up until the last few hundred years, being an Atheist was one of the worst things possible.[/QUOTE] Well this is completely irrelevant. What did my post have to do with wars? I was talking about atheists being assholes on the internet, not atheists starting wars. "Atheists haven't started many wars so I can be a dipshit to strangers!"