Thinking about it for a sec it seems that when the video branches it was already a matter of time before the internet appeared from somewhere else if it was kept secret by governments. Like public key crypto.
The creation of general purpose computers (with CPU, RAM) seems to be the point where it becomes impossible for the internet to not be created because by that point you know about computing, data storage and retrieval, and sending signals atleast through wires.
Would the internet exist if machines using the von neumann architecture never existed?. Code = Data seems important.
[QUOTE=Berman Slick;52693722]I would be free from this eternal prison[/QUOTE]
People may [I]jokingly[/I] shrug off the idea of self-control online as humanly impossible "resistance is futile" or some crap.
However, over time, I've started to treat the internet more as a tool, and not as the "go-to source of all".
I dunno I like the internet it is basically TV without ads every 10 minutes.
I'd be less cultured, I wouldn't speak english and my political views would be even shittier.
I also wouldn't be a virgin.
[QUOTE=EE 20 D0;52692260]Thinking about it for a sec it seems that when the video branches it was already a matter of time before the internet appeared from somewhere else if it was kept secret by governments. Like public key crypto.[/QUOTE]
The Bulletin Board System operates completely independent from the TCP standard. You are literally a console device connecting to the computer through a physical socket, just with a modem and phone line replacing a private serial link. In a way it is the bare metal version of the Point to Point Protocol (PPP)
The era of the BBS died within three years of the Internet going public. Following the alternate reality of the video if we assumed the Internet never materialized it is very much likely the BBS would of continued to thrive and evolve. The big question however is when would the in-dial nodes become networked with other nodes and thus other bulletin boards and begin creating an interconnected global network of BBS nodes uncanny to the Internet anyways?
BBSs came to mind when writing my post but since i barely know anything about them i didn't write about them.
So the network in this alternate timeline would be circuit switched rather than packet switched, connection oriented at the lowest level and using something like frequency-division multiplexing allowing for more connections in a single line.
It would be probably more expensive, but having constant and higher throughtput with the same bandwidth from the lack of packet overhead and steady latency means it would be pretty nice to play multiplayer games on it.
Lots of more things would be different but it really takes some thinking to come up with something plausible.
How he describes the world without the internet is how I imagined the future in 2002, when dial up was still a thing and youtube wouldn't have been possible, thinking about it though, the Vbulletin thing this site uses was made back in dial up times.
What would it have been like without the World Wide Web part of the internet though?
When he desrcibed hte world without internet i reemember how it was being a kid in the early 2000's having to go to blockbuster to rent movies, renting games at the local library and exchanging cd's dvd's and games with my friends. All this doesn't seem that far away actually
[QUOTE=smfE;52696676]When he desrcibed hte world without internet i reemember how it was being a kid in the early 2000's having to go to blockbuster to rent movies, renting games at the local library and exchanging cd's dvd's and games with my friends. All this doesn't seem that far away actually[/QUOTE]
I entered the Internet era fairly late, relatively. I didn't have internet access at home until the end of 2003 when I was 11 and school computers weren't allowed to be used freely, so I do remember having to look stuff up in actual books and the library, because you had no other choice.
I do still remember how big of a deal Google Video (remember that?) and Youtube were when they first started though and Blockland was the first internet community I interacted with.
[QUOTE=pentium;52695608]The big question however is when would the in-dial nodes become networked with other nodes and thus other bulletin boards and begin creating an interconnected global network of BBS nodes uncanny to the Internet anyways?[/QUOTE]
I thought about this a little more last night and then I remembered that this already was a thing by the time the 90's had rolled around.
The groundwork for [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FidoNet]FidoNet[/url] was established in 1984. The standard allowed for the transfer of data between other connected bulletin boards so that various content could be shared with one advantage that it was done automatically and over regular telephone lines on a scheduled basis. Additionally, FidoNet could allow access to the [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet]UseNet[/url] system. In our timeline the use of FidoNet peaked in 1996 with a little over 39000 global nodes. One cited reason for the decline was newer modems were better suited for TCP/IP and thus general Internet use, however if we look at the statistics and assume as per the video there was no TCP/IP/Internet, more than likely the service would of not peaked in 1996 and instead of would of continued to grow.
In other words, if the Internet never became a thing than other forces were at play that would of made the creation of an Internet-like system inevitable.
It would make travel more interesting. You'd find things out about place rather than Googling everything, but then it could make travel less safe too.
[QUOTE=Drury;52695511]I'd be less cultured, I wouldn't speak english and my political views would be even shittier.
I also wouldn't be a virgin.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much the same except I'd still be a virgin. :cool:
[QUOTE=smfE;52696676]When he desrcibed hte world without internet i reemember how it was being a kid in the early 2000's having to go to blockbuster to rent movies, renting games at the local library and exchanging cd's dvd's and games with my friends. All this doesn't seem that far away actually[/QUOTE]
Yeah it's weird to think I was born and lived in a time before the Internet was even a thing, it just seems like second nature now.
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