• Republican donor sues GOP over failed Obamacare repeal
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[url]https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/virginia/republican-donor-from-virginia-beach-sues-gop-accusing-the-party/article_f7e5e7ec-f6ad-5d09-90d5-29774701b0c2.html[/url] [QUOTE]A retired attorney in Virginia Beach is so incensed that Republicans couldn’t repeal the Affordable Care Act that he’s suing to get political donations back, accusing the GOP of fraud and racketeering. Bob Heghmann, 70, filed a lawsuit Thursday in U.S. District Court, saying the national and Virginia Republican parties and some GOP leaders raised millions of dollars in campaign funds while knowing they weren’t going to be able to overturn the law also known as Obamacare. The GOP “has been engaged in a pattern of Racketeering which involves massive fraud perpetrated on Republican voters and contributors as well as some Independents and Democrats,” the suit said. Racketeering, perhaps better known for use in prosecuting organized crime, involves a pattern of illegal behavior by a specific group. The lawsuit lists as defendants the Republican National Committee and Virginia’s two national GOP committee members, Morton Blackwell and Cynthia Dunbar, as well as the Republican Party of Virginia and state party Chairman John Whitbeck. In an email, Blackwell dismissed Heghmann’s complaint as a “frivolous, nuisance suit that should be thrown out of court by any judge.” In a separate email Dunbar sent to Blackwell that was forwarded to The Virginian-Pilot, Dunbar referred to it as “ridiculous.” But at the same time, both said they understood where Heghmann was coming from. Blackwell said the suit is a “sign of conservative anger that the Republican-controlled Congress has not yet repealed and replaced Obamacare.” He argued that “progressives” had taken over the Democratic Party and seemed to lament that “conservatives” had not yet taken over the Republican Party. “Too few conservatives are willing to invest their time, talent, and money and personally participate inside the Republican Party,” Blackwell said. “A Republican majority will mean a conservative majority if and when a sufficient number of conservatives figure out why the success of their principles depends on their personal involvement in local, state and national Republican Party committees and in party nomination contests.” A spokesman for the state party did not respond to a request for comment. [/QUOTE] EDIT: Can staff please change the title to "Republican sues GOP over failed Obamacare repeal"? current one was too long and getting cut off. Sorry bout that. EDIT 2: Thanks.
[quote]A retired attorney in Virginia Beach is so incensed that Republicans couldn’t repeal the Affordable Care Act that he’s suing to get political donations back[/quote] Wait, so, his idea of his system is literally and openly [B]"pay money and get laws changed"[/B]? Down to refunds on unsatisfactory service? Am I the only one who finds the fact this is how people actually think now [B]extremely terrifying[/B]?
[QUOTE=millan;52541676]Wait, so, his idea of his system is literally and openly [B]"pay money and get laws changed"[/B]? Down to refunds on unsatisfactory service? Am I the only one who finds the fact this is how people actually think now [B]extremely terrifying[/B]?[/QUOTE] It's not extremely terrifying and I'm tired of everyone constantly describing every single dumb thing in politics as "terrifying". Sorry for firing off on you in particular but I find this infantile way of reacting to politics as just weak and meaningless. This news is hilariously stupid and makes the GOP look retarded. Money meddling with politics is infuriating but it is cathartic to see it backfire so spectacularly as it did in 2016 and 2017. [QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52541697]This is extremely terrifying[/QUOTE] Cheeky :v:
This is extremely terrifying
[QUOTE=millan;52541676]Wait, so, his idea of his system is literally and openly [B]"pay money and get laws changed"[/B]? Down to refunds on unsatisfactory service? Am I the only one who finds the fact this is how people actually think now [B]extremely terrifying[/B]?[/QUOTE] I thought it was just common knowledge that the lobbying system / donor system in the USA was pretty much pay 2 play.
holy fuck its not actually pay to play.
[QUOTE=Instant Mix;52541702]I thought it was just common knowledge that the lobbying system / donor system in the USA was pretty much pay 2 play.[/QUOTE] And now it's becoming Pay2Win
Except he paid to lose lol
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;52542104]Except he paid to lose lol[/QUOTE] no, he paid to screw poor people, then is upset that it didn't work out, now wants to sue to get his money back. meanwhile the people on the individual market are still having sleepless nights wondering if they'll wake up and find their healthcare is gone
[QUOTE=Van-man;52541739]And now it's becoming Pay2Win[/QUOTE] Considering Steve Bannon has worked with chinese gold farmers in the past, I'm surprised he hasn't been banned yet. Whatever the IRL equivalent of banning is, anyway.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52542142]no, he paid to screw poor people, then is upset that it didn't work out, now wants to sue to get his money back. meanwhile the people on the individual market are still having sleepless nights wondering if they'll wake up and find their healthcare is gone[/QUOTE] :frown: Just trying to make light of the situation, but yeah, in reality, this was pretty awful.
[QUOTE=millan;52541676]Wait, so, his idea of his system is literally and openly [B]"pay money and get laws changed"[/B]? Down to refunds on unsatisfactory service? Am I the only one who finds the fact this is how people actually think now [B]extremely terrifying[/B]?[/QUOTE] Isn't that kind of how it works, though? Why else would mega corporations and banks give millions of dollars to candidates???? Because they expect something in return
[QUOTE=UziXxX;52542930]Isn't that kind of how it works, though? Why else would mega corporations and banks give millions of dollars to candidates???? Because they expect something in return[/QUOTE] Then they shouldn't be allowed to because that'll give corporations and millionaires a advantage over the average citizen. [editline]6th August 2017[/editline] Money should never be able to do the talking in politics, especially on this level
But they're donations, so if he wants to get them refunded he'd have to prove that he was paying for a service, right?
[QUOTE=Talishmar;52544555]But they're donations, so if he wants to get them refunded he'd have to prove that he was paying for a service, right?[/QUOTE] Yeah, isn't he basically confessing to bribery just by pursuing this?
[QUOTE=Popularvote;52544783]Yeah, isn't he basically confessing to bribery just by pursuing this?[/QUOTE] In a perfect world, this dumbass would be about to receive a hard dose of reality. Unfortunately, our political system has completely malfunctioned on a fundamental level, so I wouldn't be surprised if everyone involved just acts like this is acceptable.
[QUOTE=IKTM;52544972]In a perfect world, this dumbass would be about to receive a hard dose of reality. Unfortunately, our political system has completely malfunctioned on a fundamental level, so I wouldn't be surprised if everyone involved just acts like this is acceptable.[/QUOTE] Wasn't it even stated that America wasn't even a proper "democracy"? I don't remember the specifics, but it's pretty much saying our system sucks.
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;52545298]Wasn't it even stated that America wasn't even a proper "democracy"? I don't remember the specifics, but it's pretty much saying our system sucks.[/QUOTE] oh yeah, you guys definitely live in a pay2win system. or rather, pay2have-what-other-countries-have-for-free system
[QUOTE=Eva-1337;52545298]Wasn't it even stated that America wasn't even a proper "democracy"? I don't remember the specifics, but it's pretty much saying our system sucks.[/QUOTE] We are an republic-based oligarchy
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