• 83-year-old asks Supreme Court to review gay marriage ban
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[quote](Reuters) - An ailing 83-year-old lesbian asked the Supreme Court on Monday to hear her legal challenge against a federal law that defines marriage as a union between a man and woman, attempting to place her case on a fast-track to the top court. The suit, filed by Edith Schlain Windsor in 2010, targets the Defense of Marriage Act, a law passed by the U.S. Congress in 1996 that denies federal benefits to lawfully married same-sex couples. Windsor's petition attempts to bypass the U.S. Court of Appeals, which is slated to hear the case in September. With Windsor's filing, there are three petitions pending before the Supreme Court over the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act, an issue the high court could take up in oral arguments as early as next spring, said Windsor's lawyer Roberta Kaplan, of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP. "This case presents a question of exceptional national importance: the constitutionality of a statute, the Defense of Marriage Act ('DOMA'), that daily affects the lives of thousands of Americans," the petition said. In June, a New York district court ruled in Windsor's favor, finding that a central provision of the law discriminates against married same-sex couples. The case is now on expedited appeal before the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. But Windsor's lawyers argue that premature review of her case by the Supreme Court is warranted since the issue is already before the court. Also, Windsor suffers from a heart condition that could end her life before the case is resolved. The American Civil Liberties Union originally filed the suit in New York on behalf of Windsor, a former computer programmer who married Thea Clara Spyer in Toronto, Canada, in 2007. The two were engaged in 1967. Spyer died in 2009 after a long battle with multiple sclerosis, leaving her property to Windsor. Because the marriage was not recognized under federal law, Windsor had to pay more than $363,000 in federal estate taxes, according to the suit. Six states have legalized same-sex marriage since DOMA went into effect, including New York in 2011. But federal law and programs do not recognize those marriages because of DOMA. Windsor's attorneys argue that the federal law violates the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution which prohibits states from denying people equal protection under the laws. Federal courts in New York, California and Massachusetts all found the law unconstitutional for different reasons, applying varying standards of legal analysis. The Republican-controlled House of Representatives, through its Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group (BLAG), is defending the law, which the Obama administration has largely abandoned. President Barack Obama in 2011 instructed the Justice Department to stop defending the law in courts, finding it unconstitutional.[/quote] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/16/us-usa-courts-gaymarriage-idUSBRE86F1BA20120716[/url] Hope she wins.
even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies
[B]Your point being...?[/B] It's love what matters, apparently.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] they can adopt. [editline]17th July 2012[/editline] although i hardly think it matters
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] wow i never knew that thanks for telling me so i dont wind up gay and childless!!
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] Cite your sources.
[QUOTE=littlefoot;36808869]Cite your sources.[/QUOTE] En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808924]En.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy[/QUOTE] You expect me to get all the info I need out of that one line?
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] and yet people have no problem with straight couples where one or both are infertile or simply don't want to have kids
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36808968]and yet people have no problem with straight couples where one or both are infertile or simply don't want to have kids[/QUOTE] Yes, because they can if they wanted to. Gays is they cant, even if they wanted to
[QUOTE=ironman17;36808849][B]Your point being...?[/B] It's love what matters, apparently.[/QUOTE] july 2012 with 9 posts probably a gimmick bro
Hope she doesn't win.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36808988]july 2012 with 9 posts probably a gimmick bro[/QUOTE] Yeah, but it's that kind of nasty subhuman that's dragging down the species man; better to try and force a change than to just brush it off as an irritant. And another appears; what a dickhole.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808986]Yes, because they can if they wanted to. Gays is they cant, even if they wanted to[/QUOTE] Funny thing being that when you're infertile YOU CAN'T IF YOU WANTED TO.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] So? There's an almost equal amount of options to them.
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;36809017]Funny thing being that when you're infertile YOU CAN'T IF YOU WANTED TO.[/quote] sorry for my engrish [highlight](User was banned for this post ("You're not sorry" - verynicelady))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=ironman17;36809010]Yeah, but it's that kind of nasty subhuman that's dragging down the species man; better to try and force a change than to just brush it off as an irritant. And another appears; what a dickhole.[/QUOTE] No, it's people like you who dismiss people as 'dickholes' for their personal, possibly religious beliefs. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Whether their opinion is credible or not is not for you to decide because you don't know shit about anyone over the internet.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;36809023]So? There's an almost equal amount of options to them.[/QUOTE] errr no Equal rights everywhere? Ability to have children? I could name more, but still. Gay marriage legal will never see the light.
[QUOTE=stupidass;36809045]No, it's people like you who dismiss people as 'dickholes' for their personal, possibly religious beliefs. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Whether their opinion is credible or not is not for you to decide because you don't know shit about anyone over the internet.[/QUOTE] No you can't on facepunch, you get yelled at for opinions and beliefs.
Just let people marry whoever they want, provided that the couple is two consenting adults and the church is okay with marrying them. The US Government steps into too many places where it doen't belong.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] It's not like an 80 year old can HAVE kids, you dumbass
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36809051]errr no Equal rights everywhere? Ability to have children? I could name more, but still. Gay marriage legal will never see the light.[/QUOTE] He said almost. The only option a gay couple doesn't have is a baby between them, all other options open to straight couples are also open to gay couples.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] It's funny how people assume all couples have kids.
[QUOTE=stupidass;36809008]Hope she doesn't win.[/QUOTE] Why?
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36809051]errr no Equal rights everywhere? Ability to have children? I could name more, but still. Gay marriage legal will never see the light.[/QUOTE] then why is it legal or almost legal in many developed european countries
Obvious troll is obvious. Just ignore this idiot.
[QUOTE=stupidass;36809045]No, it's people like you who dismiss people as 'dickholes' for their personal, possibly religious beliefs. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Whether their opinion is credible or not is not for you to decide because you don't know shit about anyone over the internet.[/QUOTE] beliefs don't deserve respect by default, they have to earn it.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36808827]even if she wins you do realize that lesbians or gays cannot have babies[/QUOTE] yeah guys how can you forget that gay sex is gross and they have cooties
[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;36809088]then why is it legal or almost legal in many developed european countries[/QUOTE] Kosovo, Albania, and some other places have it illegal. Because, they want you to believe they are friendly to everyone.
[QUOTE=BadDrum;36809100]Kosovo, Albania, and some other places have it illegal. Because, they want you to believe they are friendly to everyone.[/QUOTE] Keyword is developed european countries.
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