Roman nails that a new documentary claims could have been used to crucify Jesus Christ - Polidicks

[Quote] Two ancient nails discovered in a Jerusalem archaeological excavation 20 years ago may have been those used to crucify Jesus, filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici says. The nails, discovered in an excavation of a first century Jewish tomb in 1990, have divided historical opinion. Jacobovici’s view is set out in a documentary that will be aired on television in both the U.S. and Israel. A number of ossuaries were found in the tomb, which belonged to the Caiaphas family, according to inscriptions on two of the bone boxes, Jacobovici says. Caiaphas was the name of the Jewish High Priest at the time of the crucifixion of Jesus, according to the New Testament. “Do I know 100 percent that these nails were used to crucify Jesus?” Jacobovici said in a telephone interview today. “No. I think we have a very compelling case to say: these are them.” The nails were not photographed at the time that they were found, and there is no record of what was done with them, according to the documentary. At around the same time as the excavation, two ancient nails from the Second Temple period were delivered to a Tel Aviv University lab from Jerusalem and remained there since then. These two nails are bent, which may be consistent with their being used for crucifixion, according to the documentary. Jacobovici says that the crucifixion nails were seen as a powerful talisman, that could protect the bearer in this life and the afterlife, and were therefore included in the tomb. For Caiaphas, the crucifixion of Jesus was one of the most important events in his life, and this is another possible reason they were included in his tomb, Jacobovici says. Proof Needed The Israel Antiquities Authority said in response that there is no scientific proof for Jacobovici’s theory. Nails are commonly found in ancient burial caves from this period, and are believed to have been used for chiseling the name of the deceased on the sarcophagus, and there is no indication that they have any other significance, it said. The tomb found in Jerusalem has not been proven to have belonged to the family of the High Priest of that name, and may have belonged to another family with the same name, the IAA said. “There is no doubt that the talented director Simcha Jacobovici created an interesting film, at the center of which is a genuine archaeological artifact,” the IAA said in an e- mailed statement. “However, the interpretation presented in it has no basis in the find or in archaeological research.” The documentary will be aired on the History Channel in the U.S. on April 20 and in Israel on Channel 1 on May 15, the first of a series called “Secrets of Christianity”. [/Quote] I also heard on the news this morning some old lady yelling about how its complete malarkey and that nails were a common thing to be buried with in those days and are commonly recovered (lolwut) [url]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-12/nails-used-to-crucify-jesus-may-have-been-found-filmmaker-says-in-israel.html[/url]

Saw this as soon as it came on the news.

again, all conjecture. Can you even prove there was a Jesus nailed to a cross?

"Well fuck, 6 months excavating this site and all we found were these 2000 year old bent nails, how are we going to pretend like we did something useful?"

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29136959]again, all conjecture. Can you even prove there was a Jesus nailed to a cross?[/QUOTE] Most likely, there WAS a Jesus Christ, but only some people believed he had any significance

Yeah, they didn't even provide any solid evidence, even for a historian. Their proof is that they were buried with someone's name. Heh, history channel. Whoops, sorry, I mean the Alien Abduction-Pyramids fueled by Hitler's Time Traveling Psychic Powers Channel

They could have been used to crucify any of the thousands of people that were crucified during that time, why is it more likely to be Jesus than anyone else?

I found some nails under my house, I think they were used to crucify Jesus, do I know for a fact that they are? no, but I don't give a shit.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;29136959]again, all conjecture. Can you even prove there was a Jesus nailed to a cross?[/QUOTE] yes you can prove jesus was nailed to a cross, still, it doesn't mean he had super powers.

[QUOTE=MenteR;29137273]yes you can prove jesus was nailed to a cross[/QUOTE] Not really.

[QUOTE=Boobie;29136901]The documentary will be aired on the [b]History Channel[/b] in the U.S. on April 20 and in Israel on Channel 1 on May 15, the first of a series called “Secrets of Christianity”.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/VCKnD.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=MenteR;29137273]yes you can prove jesus was nailed to a cross[/QUOTE] hahah what can you also prove that noah fit two of every animal into a boat?

[QUOTE=Zeero;29137336]Not really.[/QUOTE] uhhh they had writings about it, MANY writings about it. some of them even made it into an infamous book called "the holy bible". if everyone thought this way, historians wouldn't exist. [editline]12th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sanius;29137360]hahah what can you also prove that noah fit two of every animal into a boat?[/QUOTE] no because that didn't happen? i'm talking about random people writing about it and even the romans themselves, not people devoted to christianism.

[QUOTE=MenteR;29137386]uhhh they had writings about it, MANY writings about it. some of them even made it into an infamous book called "the holy bible". if everyone thought this way, historians wouldn't exist.[/QUOTE] you are seriously mistaken as to what the bible is, who wrote it, and when it was written. none of the people who wrote it ever met jesus

[QUOTE=MenteR;29137386]uhhh they had writings about it, MANY writings about it. some of them even made it into an infamous book called "the holy bible". [/QUOTE] I don't think you know how proof works hint: people writing that something existed does not prove that it existed

people were crucified back then, it was common. whoever opposed the empire would be crucified in public, why wouldn't some crazy hobo in a robe saying that there was a god be crucified too?

Man, the history channel has really gone to shit lately. What ever happened to the good shows like Modern Marvels and Mail Call?

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;29137177]They could have been used to crucify any of the thousands of people that were crucified during that time, why is it more likely to be Jesus than anyone else?[/QUOTE] I think his theory is that since the priest whose tomb this is thought to be, said that Jesus' crucifixion was one of the most important times of his life, and so he might have had himself buried with the nails that were used to crucify Jesus. [editline]13th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Zeke129;29137445] none of the people who wrote it ever met jesus[/QUOTE] Most*

cruxifiction was one of the most common ways to punish criminals at that time

The thing is, all of this may be lovely tales of a man nailed to a cross and whatever but god doesn't exist lol

Or I don't know any other person who was crucified at the time

[QUOTE=cjone2;29137682]Or I don't know any other person who was crucified at the time[/QUOTE] I'm not sure if you're kidding or not

God doesn't exist EL OH EL.

I found two rusty nails in my back yard. Clearly those two were the REAL nails that they crucified Jesus with.

Dude, hawkers have been selling bits of rusted iron to pilgrims for centuries.

[QUOTE=TheChantzGuy;29137497]I think his theory is that since the priest whose tomb this is thought to be, said that Jesus' crucifixion was one of the most important times of his life, and so he might have had himself buried with the nails that were used to crucify Jesus. [editline]13th April 2011[/editline] Most*[/QUOTE] Those stories were passed down for generations before finally being transcribed. No chance that they retained 100% accuracy.

Bent nails? BENT NAILS? That clinches it.

Jesus had 6 nails on each hand

I have an elixir distilled from the sweat of jesus christ on the day of his execution. [editline]12th April 2011[/editline] no really

[QUOTE=acidcj;29137074]"Well fuck, 6 months excavating this site and all we found were these 2000 year old bent nails, how are we going to pretend like we did something useful?"[/QUOTE] And that's probably what really happened.