[quote]The 46-year-old woman and her three daughters - aged 14, 12 and eight - are said to have been targeted while holidaying near Laragne in Hautes-Alpes in southern France[/quote]
[quote]An eight-year-old girl is fighting for her life after a mum and her three daughters were reportedly stabbed in a French holiday resort for being 'scantily dressed'.
The 46-year-old woman and the girls - aged eight, 12 and 14 - were all attacked before the knifeman fled the scene - according to police.[/quote]
[quote]The 37-year-old man, who is said to be of Moroccan origin, has since been arrested following the incident at around 10am local time (9am UK time) this morning.
Police say the motive for the attack remains 'vague' but local media reports state the attacker had made references to the females being 'too lightly dressed'.[/quote]
[url]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/girl-fighting-life-after-mum-8448196[/url]
Oh come on.
Well, this is gonna help resolve some of the tension issues, isn't it?
It's people like this that make me question my stance on the death penalty.
Im calling its isis, or isis claims it
double or nothing this time.
'too lightly dressed' what a fucking animal why dont we dress this guy 'too lightly' and throw him in a pit of vipers.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50738319]Im calling its isis, or isis claims it
double or nothing this time.
'too lightly dressed' what a fucking animal why dont we dress this guy 'too lightly' and throw him in a pit of vipers.[/QUOTE]
Not everything is a overarching plot orchestrated by ISIS
[QUOTE=Exploders;50738359]Not everything is a overarching plot orchestrated by ISIS[/QUOTE]
They will claim responsibility though - even though its probably a sad lonely piece of shit who blames his problems on others. What a fucking loser waste of life
[QUOTE=Exploders;50738359]Not everything is a overarching plot orchestrated by ISIS[/QUOTE]
At this point i can either submit to the distressing news or try to make everything be for a reason... we are all in a massive bad bond movie.
[QUOTE=Shenesis;50738355]"scantily dressed" They were in a holiday resort, leave them alone ffs. Glad he was caught after this[/QUOTE]
they could be naked and having loud sex in the middle of a church and they still shouldn't get stabbed for it
[QUOTE=Exploders;50738359]Not everything is a overarching plot orchestrated by ISIS[/QUOTE]
Yeah this is not a terrorist attack, but it is an attack by a person of Islamic origin.
He's of Moroccan origin and [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco#Religion"]Morocco is 99.9% Muslim[/URL]. And given his motive we know what influenced him.
[QUOTE=The golden;50738304]Considering the mans origin and him saying they were "scantily clad" I think it's pretty much safe to assume the motives for the attack.
I'll gladly accept being proven wrong but I honestly doubt I will be....[/QUOTE]
What's even more fucked up is people basically victim blaming by saying that the west needs to adapt to these other cultures in the name of "integration". The very idea of assimilation is frowned upon by these people.
And, even worse, you have people [URL="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2016-07-15/we-have-to-get-used-to-terrorism-says-goulet"]saying Europe has to get used to terrorism[/URL].
Some cultures are simply incompatible.
Is it so much to ask for these lunatics to mind their own business?
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50738377]At this point i can either submit to the distressing news or try to make everything be for a reason... we are all in a massive bad bond movie.[/QUOTE]
You've really got to stop bringing up ISIS in every thread about these lone wolf attacks. Not every animal who justifies killing/harming people for their religious beliefs is trained and radicalized in some big ISIS warehouse in Syria. It's this mad and unstable socio-political environment that we live in that is pushing these madmen to go out take the "jihad" into their own hands.
how the asshole would commit crimes just because of how the girls dress just blows my mind
like holy shit its none of your business
and come the fuck on you're in france
[QUOTE=Deri102;50738414]You've really got to stop bringing up ISIS in every thread about these lone wolf attacks. Not every animal who justifies killing/harming people for their religious beliefs is trained and radicalized in some big ISIS warehouse in Syria. It's this mad and unstable socio-political environment that we live in that is pushing these madmen to go out take the "jihad" into their own hands.[/QUOTE]
I would, but im usually right.
For fuck's sake.
[QUOTE=Mr.Brown;50738418]how the asshole would commit crimes just because of how the girls dress just blows my mind
like holy shit its none of your business
and come the fuck on you're in france[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://pjmedia.com/blog/latest-survey-finds-25-of-french-teenagers-are-muslims/"]You'd be wrong[/URL]. If anything, I think we're not too far off until they start shaming French girls into not wearing skirts and dresses, for being "inappropiate".
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50738438]I would, but im usually right.[/QUOTE]
No. They may claim it later on but initially most of these attacks were not in the name of ISIS or any other group.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50738367]They will claim responsibility though - even though its probably a sad lonely piece of shit who blames his problems on others. What a fucking loser waste of life[/QUOTE]
You seem skeptical due to all these latest ISIS claims, but they do have a hand at some of these type of acts. They manipulate people and they have resources to pay these madmen so that they can cause more damage than they would otherwise. (not saying this case is though, this one seems too heated and not pre-planned)
doubt hes affiliated with ISIS, instead hes probably just an average radicalized muslim
[QUOTE=orgornot;50738445]No. They may claim it later on but initially most of these attacks were not in the name of ISIS or any other group.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=blizzerd] Im calling its isis, or isis claims it[/QUOTE]
I dont claim ISIS actually trained and indoctrinated him personally... just that ISIS will either be related to the story (they find a flag of ISIS, they find he knows people from isis, has been to ISIS etc) or ISIS claims it as an attack they supported or organised...
Also remember how some Islamic group tried to claim the Norway 2011 attacks. Then it turned out to be an opposing ideology.
[QUOTE=orgornot;50738398]Yeah this is not a terrorist attack, but it is an attack by a person of Islamic origin.
He's of Moroccan origin and [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morocco#Religion"]Morocco is 99.9% Muslim[/URL]. And given his motive we know what influenced him.[/QUOTE]
85%+ of pedophiles are men, ergo ban men from watching children.
its flawed logic. yeah ill concede that the guy was very likely Muslim according to your statistic, but do not use it as undeniable proof until we get a source saying what this individual themselves is.
[QUOTE]Some cultures are simply incompatible.[/QUOTE]
there are plenty of examples counter to this, we have gone over this countless times.
the only problem is people with your attitude, both here and there in the middle east, refusing to set aside differences and just give up and live a life of ignorance and isolation
Oh my god. That's heart-breaking. My condolences for this family. Why would anyone do this?
[quote]The 37-year-old man, who is said to be of Moroccan origin[/quote]
oh
God damnit why is France getting rekt right now. Do you guys think it's safe to travel there in August? Maybe I should go somewhere else...
[QUOTE=omarfr;50738493]God damnit why is France getting rekt right now. Do you guys think it's safe to travel there in August? Maybe I should go somewhere else...[/QUOTE]
It's totally safe
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;50738465]I dont claim ISIS actually trained and indoctrinated him personally... just that ISIS will either be related to the story (they find a flag of ISIS, they find he knows people from isis, has been to ISIS etc) or ISIS claims it as an attack they supported or organised...[/QUOTE]
ISIS is always related but mentioning them or taking their claims seriously at every attack is giving way too much credit to a disorganized, barbaric shit-show of a group.
Looks like these kinds of incidents are now to be expected daily, even in Europe.
[QUOTE=omarfr;50738493]God damnit why is France getting rekt right now. Do you guys think it's safe to travel there in August? Maybe I should go somewhere else...[/QUOTE]
you are more likely to be struck by lightning than you would be killed by a terrorist attack.
these attacks are a problem that really need to be dealt with and not swept under the rug, but the media is really blowing it out of proportion
[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;50738521]Looks like these kinds of incidents are now to be expected daily, even in Europe.[/QUOTE]
Murder happens probably everyday in Europe, a small percentage of those are religiously motivated.
[QUOTE=da space core;50738476]85%+ of pedophiles are men, ergo ban men from watching children.
its flawed logic. yeah ill concede that the guy was very likely Muslim according to your statistic, but do not use it as undeniable proof until we get a source saying what this individual themselves is.
there are plenty of examples counter to this, we have gone over this countless times.
the only problem is people with your attitude, both here and there in the middle east, refusing to set aside differences and just give up and live a life of ignorance and isolation[/QUOTE]
The concept of incompatible cultures is definitely valid, I have no idea how you can think that doesn't exist with so many historical examples. Historically, culture has always divided people (both across borders and across classes), how can you ignore this? (e.g. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_conflict[/url])
You can try to be all idealistic and say it doesn't need to be so, but that implies there's compromises to be made and what if one side doesn't want to compromise their culture?
[QUOTE=bunguer;50738548]The concept of incompatible cultures is definitely valid, I have no idea how you can think that doesn't exist with so many historical examples. Historically, culture has always divided people (both across borders and across classes), how can you ignore this? (e.g. [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_conflict[/url])
You can try to be all idealistic and say it doesn't need to be so, but that implies there's compromises to be made and what if one side doesn't want to compromise their culture?[/QUOTE]
the example you gave was valid because it was very specific. for example, ideas of abortion, over alcohol, etc.
all of islam is very diverse and has no "one set" of rules, and it cannot be treated as such. therefore, naming the entire religion as incompatible is ridiculous.
but yes, certain "sects" of islam (which really, just come down to certain areas with poor socioeconomic conditions) need reform, and that will not be accomplished by isolating them and alienating them from the world.
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