• Mounties who used Taser on 11-year old boy face no charges
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[h2]Mounties who used Taser on boy face no charges[/h2] [release]RCMP officers in Prince George, B.C., will not be disciplined or charged after the use of a stun gun, commonly known as a Taser, on an 11-year-old boy at a group home earlier this year. On Thursday, West Vancouver Chief Const. Peter Lepine told reporters that his department's investigation found that the RCMP officer's use of force was lawful. An open letter posted soon after on the West Vancouver Police Department's web site offered little more information. "The scope of our investigation was whether the actions taken by the police officers involved in the file exceeded the powers granted to police under the Criminal Code of Canada," Lepine said the letter. "My team spent much of this spring and summer interviewing witnesses, collecting and analyzing evidence and consulting with those in the legal profession as well as subject matter experts in topics like police use of force." The RCMP said at the time of the incident on April 7 that the boy was shocked after he allegedly stabbed a 37-year-old caregiver at his government-run group home. When Prince George RCMP officers arrived at the scene, they found the boy had barricaded himself in a nearby home. When he came out, an officer stunned him with a conductive energy weapon. The boy's mother said her son has a heart condition — as well as bipolar disorder — and she believes the stun gun, intended to incapacitate people with an electric shock, could have killed him. The RCMP officers involved had been assigned administrative duties since the incident. Officials have now said those officers will be returned to regular duties. [b]More probes ongoing[/b] The RCMP are releasing few details of what happened. Officials said they can't give more information because several other investigations — including one by B.C.'s youth and child advocate and another by the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP — are underway into the incident. Mary Turpel-Lafond, the B.C. Representative for Children and Youth, issued a statement following the announcement in Prince George, in which she expressed ongoing concern with the role of police officers in and around group homes. "In reviewing this particular Prince George incident, I became concerned about a wider issue of police being called by group home staff to attend and act as a disciplinarian of sorts," Turpel-Lafond said. Some group homes in the province appear to be repeatedly using police to help manage or discipline children with complex needs and behaviours, she said. Her office will continue to work with the Ministry of Children and Family Development in ensuring that the needs of the boy involved in this incident are being met. Turpel-Lafond has given no date for the release of her special report into group homes and the Prince George Taser incident. She noted that legislation allows her office's investigations to proceed only when police investigations and criminal justice matters have concluded.[/release] [url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/09/15/bc-prince-george-taser-report.html] Source [/url] In my opinion, I can't make a judgement on whether the Mounties did the right thing, there is just not enough info. Also, I used to live In Prince George, it has the highest crime rate per capita in Canada.
Well, I guess that was a real... [I]shocker[/I]
[QUOTE=CoolHandLuke;32315188]Well, I guess that was a real... [I]shocker[/I][/QUOTE] You forced me to do this. [img]http://www.nubblies.net/forums/Photopost/data/2/rim-shot-johnny-utah.jpg[/img] [editline]15th September 2011[/editline] Well, it's just a taser. Not like he shot him to death.
He stabbed someone? If I was a cop I don't care if the perp was 11 I'd be on guard if I was dealing with someone who stabbed their caregiver unprovoked. I see no reason for charges here, sure the boy had conditions but that wasn't made aware to the officer.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;32315244]You forced me to do this. [img]http://www.nubblies.net/forums/Photopost/data/2/rim-shot-johnny-utah.jpg[/img] [editline]15th September 2011[/editline] Well, it's just a taser. Not like he shot him to death.[/QUOTE] Haha.
Well technically they are American police
mounties should've gotten a warning or something
It's usually a catch 22 for law officials in situations like this. The article makes no mention of the child's size. Sure he's 11, but I've seen some massive 11 year olds that would pose a threat. It also makes no mention if the child came out peacefully or not. He did after all just stab someone. I would be on my guard too when dealing with an individual who just stabbed someone regardless of age. If they have the ability to to stab someone knowing what it would do, then they are a threat to everyone around. It also seems that every time someone gets tased, they seem to have some condition that can be potentially exacerbated by being tased, usually reported to be a heart condition. Also how is tasing someone who is bipolar going to kill them? Stupid fucking media. How the fuck are the cops supposed to know that? Especially an 11 year old child. How likely is it for an 11 year old to have a heart condition. Even if they did, what are they going to do? I mean they can pepper spray him, but if he still had a knife or shank on him, it won't stop him from blindly trying to use it. If the police did not tase him, what were they going to do? Grab him? Ok, the kid would have fought back, forcing the mounties to tackle his ass, probably hurting him in the process. This would then have made the news as "mounties used excessive force on child blah blah blah" I hate these one-sided news stories that always bash cops. I hate the media who always skew things and make it so you never know what's really going on. It sickens me.
[quote]The boy's mother said her son has a heart condition — as well as bipolar disorder — and she believes the stun gun, intended to incapacitate people with an electric shock, could have killed him.[/quote] So, mom, why don't you tell us all what exactly he did to get tased? Or is accused of, at least. Asides from the stabbing, I mean. Did he go at the mounties or what?
I have absolutely no sympathy for the child at all. The police acted with what I would say is reasonable force based on the situation since a potentially deadly weapon was used. If the child just hit the caregiver a few times, then there would have been no need to tase him unless he was large. I also think the mother is a stupid cunt drama queen trying to get her 15 minutes of fame. You can't exactly blame the mother for what the child did since the kid is bipolar, but seriously lady, you're blowing it out of proportion. Your kid just stabbed someone.
[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;32315262]He stabbed someone? If I was a cop I don't care if the perp was 11 I'd be on guard if I was dealing with someone who stabbed their caregiver unprovoked. I see no reason for charges here, sure the boy had conditions but that wasn't made aware to the officer.[/QUOTE]Fun fact: someone in my class did this story for a presentation. Issue is that at the time it the police were told he had [i]allegedly[/i] stabbed someone. That's where the controversy came from I believe.
As I've said before, soccer mom science If it's used against an adult, tasers are a perfectly reasonable tool to incapacitate people If used against somebody under 18, it's may as well be a fully automatic zyklon-b rifle
Kid probably got the Taser because the officer didn't want to wrestle with a kid and risk getting cut or stabbed. Fair enough.
Well just as long as they're not bloodthirsty American cops!
All of these people going "herp derp blood thirsty cops" are fucking idiots. The media always reports on fuck ups cops do but fuck if they will report something the average every day cop will do to help citizens. The bad cops are way out numbered by the good cops, and the good cop's image has been smeared to shit by the media and public who buy into the media's bullshit.
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