• Face2Face: Real-time Face Capture and Reenactment of RGB Videos
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk[/media]
Holy shit. Yeah, some of the mouth movements look a little weird but still that's fucking impressive.
I wonder if this could change how movies are dubbed in different languages. It'd seem like the best place to take advantage of this kind of technology.
I want to see some parodies of presidential debates using this tech now.
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;49960341]I wonder if this could change how movies are dubbed in different languages. It'd seem like the best place to take advantage of this kind of technology.[/QUOTE] You know, that makes a lot of sense. Right now, every film is redubbed using ADR, or Automatic Dialogue Replacement, which allows for clearer vocals to be recorded in post-production, and modified to sound more atmospheric without all the noise of the set. It seems like this could work really well as part of an ADR session.
This has some very scary implications for the future, imagine how things can be faked with this technology - politicians made to say things they didn't for propaganda, people being convicted by corrupted police forces due to faked video evidence etc.
[QUOTE=Turing;49960576]This has some very scary implications for the future, imagine how things can be faked with this technology - politicians made to say things they didn't for propaganda, people being convicted by corrupted police forces due to faked video evidence etc.[/QUOTE] I can see people saying "as long as the wrong people dont get it" but obviously they will and making money through deceiving the masses is already a thing. Genuinely hope this doesn't get made available.
[QUOTE=Turing;49960576]This has some very scary implications for the future, imagine how things can be faked with this technology - politicians made to say things they didn't for propaganda, people being convicted by corrupted police forces due to faked video evidence etc.[/QUOTE] I doubt this being used by police for faking evidence. What I think could be a scary application of this technology would be viral videos. Most people will take a video at face value, combine that with a convincing voice actor/voice clips synthed together and you could make something very damaging in the short term.
Oh lord, imagine the amount of false information this could spread once this goes public. "YOU NEVER BELIEVE WHAT OBAMA SAID IN A RECENT ANNOUNCEMENT" There are more then enough people on places as Reddit and Facebook who would fall for it.
[QUOTE=Turing;49960576]This has some very scary implications for the future, imagine how things can be faked with this technology - politicians made to say things they didn't for propaganda, people being convicted by corrupted police forces due to faked video evidence etc.[/QUOTE] This was the first thing to cross my mind. It would be SO easy to make a fake, but totally believable video, that tons of people would believe. The damage would be done before anyone had a chance to take it down. The only semi-solution would be very heavy and consistent legal punishments.
I'd imagine that as long as the source video to a theoretical fake viral video was available, it probably wouldn't be as much of a problem since one could compare the two videos and disprove the viral one.
[QUOTE=Skerion;49960818]I'd imagine that as long as the source video to a theoretical fake viral video was available, it probably wouldn't be as much of a problem since one could compare the two videos and disprove the viral one.[/QUOTE] There are too many zero information people on social media for that to work.
I'd be most worried about amateur recorded video. You could quite literally put words into people's mouths, and no one would really be the wiser. Prank channels able to get the exact reaction out of people that would be best for views. Here's hoping no one uses it for any shady means, as there are a lot of cool options this tech opens up. [editline]18th March 2016[/editline] Now I'm imagining North Korea using it on speeches by foreign leaders to further their smear campaigns in the media. :v:
Technology shall always thrive, and no matter what we do we will never be able to stop it, so therefore we must adapt. The future is terrifying.
[QUOTE=Turing;49960576]This has some very scary implications for the future, imagine how things can be faked with this technology - politicians made to say things they didn't for propaganda, people being convicted by corrupted police forces due to faked video evidence etc.[/QUOTE] I'm sure people said the same thing when photo manipulation tools became wide spread. Video will just be a less credible source.
[QUOTE=Turing;49960576]This has some very scary implications for the future, imagine how things can be faked with this technology - politicians made to say things they didn't for propaganda, people being convicted by corrupted police forces due to faked video evidence etc.[/QUOTE] Uh, no, you'd have to perfectly immitate their voice too if you wanted to convince courtss. The most I can see it used for is smear campaigns along the lines of "Does this look like a trustworthy face to you?"
[QUOTE=Tetsmega;49960341]I wonder if this could change how movies are dubbed in different languages. It'd seem like the best place to take advantage of this kind of technology.[/QUOTE] A previous video by them (I remember the lady and one of the guys) proposed exactly that. even on the person's page. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXVspNUeiWw[/media]
as impressive as it is it's still slightly uncanny to watch, you can still tell somethings off without the source video, just enough to see through it [editline]19th March 2016[/editline] what it needs is better model quality and texturing, better shading and maybe a little bit more optimization and it'll be a lot better still a ways away to perfect. Could be closer than that though, I guess
[QUOTE=Turing;49960576]This has some very scary implications for the future, imagine how things can be faked with this technology - politicians made to say things they didn't for propaganda, people being convicted by corrupted police forces due to faked video evidence etc.[/QUOTE]There is a scene in star ship troopers 3 where they do that exact thing. Here it is: [video=youtube;cOY_Gnu68YY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOY_Gnu68YY[/video]
[QUOTE=spekter;49960677] Genuinely hope this doesn't get made available.[/QUOTE] Hate people who think like that. Almost every new innovation has potential scary implications, and yet here we are still alive and innovating more. Keeping something private because it could potentially make your president say poop is just bad.
Considering Photoshop is already available for faking pictures and people have been imitating voices with and without software since forever, I doubt this technology's introduction will be anything dramatic. [QUOTE=Tetsmega;49960341]I wonder if this could change how movies are dubbed in different languages. It'd seem like the best place to take advantage of this kind of technology.[/QUOTE] Right now the tech seems to be limited to static frontal shots (no profile or half-profile and the head doesn't turn around to switch between those stages either), and it can't replicate teeth, so I think it'll take some time until we get to that point.
I'd love to use this to lip sync politicians to songs.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;49964625]Hate people who think like that. Almost every new innovation has potential scary implications, and yet here we are still alive and innovating more. Keeping something private because it could potentially make your president say poop is just bad.[/QUOTE] It's a lot more than just making a president say shit. Think of a group like ISIS using this to create propaganda to spread around regions they want to convert. No one there is gonna think twice about it. The majority of people on social networking don't bother sourcing or looking for a source to something. If they're willing to believe, they will believe it.
That's some impressive face tracking for "commodity webcams". Would be cool if any face tracking for games was that good, could actually have working cheap head tracking, no?
Doesn't this mean if you had a person who looks and talks like your target, couldn't you make something that is pretty much indistinguishable from the real thing?
You guys seem to be forgetting that people WILL be able to determine whether this is used or not. Just like we have ways to tell whether an image is photoshopped, a video is cg or otherwise altered etcetra etcetra. It may take a while, but the signatures of this new kind of editing WILL be identified and that information WILL spread through the public. Eventually it will be just as fake to us as shitty cg is right now.
[QUOTE=GeneralSpecific;49972694]You guys seem to be forgetting that people WILL be able to determine whether this is used or not. Just like we have ways to tell whether an image is photoshopped, a video is cg or otherwise altered etcetra etcetra. It may take a while, but the signatures of this new kind of editing WILL be identified and that information WILL spread through the public. Eventually it will be just as fake to us as shitty cg is right now.[/QUOTE] And just like now, that won't stop the general public from believing them anyways. See: [media]https://youtu.be/BxJoA2sBaSI[/media]
[QUOTE=spekter;49964976]It's a lot more than just making a president say shit. Think of a group like ISIS using this to create propaganda to spread around regions they want to convert. No one there is gonna think twice about it. The majority of people on social networking don't bother sourcing or looking for a source to something. If they're willing to believe, they will believe it.[/QUOTE] If we stop innovation because majority are dumb, we'd still be living in middle ages, wouldn't we? It's not a good argument, sorry.
We've had a movie here in Russia called "Generation P" which had a scene where marketing agency was manipulating political situation by making fake videos. Looks like this might be a real situation in near future. I wasn't able to find english version but it should be pretty obvious what's going on (starting @ ~00:30): [video=youtube;tBzTGJ6Zj4Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBzTGJ6Zj4Q[/video]
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;49972837]If we stop innovation because majority are dumb, we'd still be living in middle ages, wouldn't we? It's not a good argument, sorry.[/QUOTE] How is face swapping software going to help us progress in a meaningful way? Oh right it isn't.
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