[QUOTE][QUOTE][IMG]https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/140911/oscarinset_1a12ime-1a12itp.jpg?x=656&sig=mRsGeeIrBwj6Ji8paRoM8w--[/IMG][/QUOTE]'Blade Runner' Oscar Pistorius has been cleared of the most serious charges of the pre-meditated murder and murder of Reeva Steenkamp.
Judge Thokozile Masipa ruled the state had not proven beyond reasonable doubt that he was guilty, and will therefore avoid a life sentence.
However, he could still be found guilty of culpable homicide.
Earlier, Pistorius sat weeping in the dock as a judge began handing down the verdict over the Valentine's Day killing of the star Paralympian's model lover.
Grimacing and sniffling, the 27-year-old celebrity sprinter watched as Judge Thokozile Masipa called Pretoria's High Court to order and began reading her verdict, which is expected to be delivered over two days.
Source:
[url]https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/24968418/pistorius-set-to-learn-his-fate/[/url][/QUOTE]
I honestly thought that it was going to go the other way.
The evidence seemed too compelling.
Now there's a result I did not see coming, considering how all the evidence seemed to be stacking up against him. Still, it's a lose/lose situation. He's avoided the worst outcome, even if he's found innocent people will still see him as someone who'll shoot on the suspicion of a burglar without checking whether it's someone who's supposed to be in the house with him.
Reminds me of OJ Simpson
I'm watching the Judge hand down the verdict at the moment.
It seriously sounds like the prosecution did an awful job.
The verdict is still ongoing and can be streamed live here:
[url]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29143540[/url]
My guess is that he will be found guilty of culpable murder (which I guess is South Africa's version of manslaughter) as he was somewhat reckless in shooting through the door.
Apparently the judgement is going to take 2 days to read out
[QUOTE=smurfy;45949549]Apparently the judgement is going to take 2 days to read out[/QUOTE]
It's slow, but at least it gives me time to refill my popcorn inbetween breaks.
[QUOTE=smurfy;45949549]Apparently the judgement is going to take 2 days to read out[/QUOTE]
I wonder if it's going to sound like [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M]this[/url]
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45949547]
My guess is that he will be found guilty of culpable murder (which I guess is South Africa's version of manslaughter) as he was somewhat reckless in shooting through the door.[/QUOTE]
Bit more than somewhat, considering he didn't even fucking check to see who it was and was living with someone.
Really surprised by this. Was doing criminal law when the proceedings started and followed most of the prosecution and Nel sounded like he pretty much had him by the balls, he never really slipped up much. Hell, I was convinced he was going down for murder but I guess not, It'll definitely be culpable homicide though, no way could it be anything less.
Fucking bullshit
[QUOTE=smurfy;45949549]Apparently the judgement is going to take 2 days to read out[/QUOTE]
I thought you were kidding... but you're not.
The Judge gets to the point where she is mentioning his negligence and that a reasonable person would not have done what he did, and then she adjourned the matter.
She is master troll judge.
Its manslaughter at least.
His reputation has pretty much been ruined regardless of sentencing
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45950099]Fucking bullshit[/QUOTE]
"Grr i'm so mad that he was deemed not guilty! We must punish someone, why not this innocent man!?"
[QUOTE=DogGunn;45949547]I'm watching the Judge hand down the verdict at the moment.
It seriously sounds like the prosecution did an awful job.
[/QUOTE]
Prosecution didn't do an awful job at all. They did pretty much the best they could with what they had. Nel has a tendency to be a bit brutal but that's just how he works. It was always going to be hard to try and use witnesses who only claim to have heard something that might have been screams, and to accuse someone of murder even after saying that they were in a diminished mental state.
The more I think about it, the more i understand that it was probably going to be culpable homicide rather than murder anyway.
[editline]11th September 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45950387]"Grr i'm so mad that he was deemed not guilty! We must punish someone, why not this innocent man!?"[/QUOTE]
the judgement isn't finished and he's liklely going to be held for culpable homicide, he isn't innocent yet dipshit
And a murderer walks free.
GG
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;45950821]And a murderer walks free.
GG[/QUOTE]
They're not finished with the sentencing.
He'll most likely be found guilty of their equivalent of Manslaughter. So he's not free yet.
He was only found not guilty of [I]premeditated[/I] murder.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45950387]"Grr i'm so mad that he was deemed not guilty! We must punish someone, why not this innocent man!?"[/QUOTE]
"The court said he was innocent so he must be innocent!"
[QUOTE=Midas22;45950858]"The court said he was innocent so he must be innocent!"[/QUOTE]
He may not be innocent but he was decided to be not guilty.
[QUOTE=Midas22;45950858]"The court said he was innocent so he must be innocent!"[/QUOTE]
I'm trusting the justice system more than some internet armchair detectives.
[editline]what[/editline]
I thought facepunch were all over "Everyone deserves a fair trial" but apparently not when they dont see the verdict they want to see
Justice is not a fucking game of football, this is serious shit with serious consequences.
You need intent for murder, did they ever have any evidence for intent? Shooting through a door isn't intent. You can shoot someone directly, with clear line of sight, and it's still not proof of intent to commit murder without some other factor(such as aiming for the head).
the reason he can't go down for murder is because there's no evidence that he shot specifically with the intent to kill that particular person. personally i think he probably knew exactly who he was shooting at but that's irrelevant
anyways he'll still be going away for a long time hopefully. like the prosecution said - girlfriend or not, he intended to kill someone behind that door, whoever it was. that's not murder but it's still manslaughter. he's also broken a tonne of firearms laws and has had firearms issues with the police before in the past so he'll go down for that too
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;45953395]the reason he can't go down for murder is because there's no evidence that he shot specifically with the intent to kill that particular person. personally i think he probably knew exactly who he was shooting at but that's irrelevant
anyways he'll still be going away for a long time hopefully. like the prosecution said - girlfriend or not, he intended to kill someone behind that door, whoever it was. that's not murder but it's still manslaughter. he's also broken a tonne of firearms laws and has had firearms issues with the police before in the past so he'll go down for that too[/QUOTE]
Well he's going to appeal any sentance and he will most likely get a retrial / hearing in a few months time all the while he's on bail. It's still far from over.
[QUOTE=Fatfatfatty;45950387]"Grr i'm so mad that he was deemed not guilty! We must punish someone, why not this innocent man!?"[/QUOTE]
All i said was fucking bullshit not lets burn him at the stake. Get over yourself
[editline]11th September 2014[/editline]
Also he's far from innocent, don't be so dense and defend him blindly
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45954450]All i said was fucking bullshit not lets burn him at the stake. Get over yourself
[editline]11th September 2014[/editline]
Also he's far from innocent, don't be so dense and defend him blindly[/QUOTE]
not guity =/= not innocent. There was no doubt that he shot her, that why he is going down. The court had to decide if it was murder or manslaughter
[QUOTE=Midas22;45950858]"The court said he was innocent so he must be innocent!"[/QUOTE]
I don't give a shit if he's innocent, if there's not a strong enough case to prove he intended BEYOND A DOUBT to kill het, a guilty verdict is fucking abhorrent. Hell most likely get Manslaughter, as he's still culpable for his actions even if accidental. If he goes free, good for him, I want his lawyer's card though cause that's some DAMN good defense
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;45954450]
Also he's far from innocent, don't be so dense and defend him blindly[/QUOTE]
Ironic that you're condemning him blindly.
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