• Ben Carson: Trump Promised Me a Job
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[QUOTE]"I will be doing things as well … Certainly in an advisory capacity [in Trump's administration]." Carson said Trump's decision to bring him into the presidential fold came after he sat down with the billionaire developer to talk about the future. As to whether his expertise in medicine or education will be tapped, Carson was mum. "We haven't handled out all the details but it is very important that we work together in this country," he said. "Again, I'm not going to reveal any details about it right now because all of this is still very liquid." [/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/carson-trump-administration/2016/03/14/id/719044/#ooid=d2Y3cxMjE6sC1wiw8B8mk0lAiYk_cKJV"]Source[/URL] Although this site doesn't mention it, promising a position with an endorsement is illegal under federal law. [URL]https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/599[/URL]
Trump is already creating jobs, wonderful
sleep tests for NASA
Well to the victor go the spoils, I guess
All candidates do this
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49947929]All candidates do this[/QUOTE] So do you consider it wrong, regardless of candidate?
Yet another reason why I want this man nowhere near the government, he also wants Carl Icahn as a cabinet position, and that guy is a fucking parasite on corporate America, buying into companies just to destroy them and sell them off
[QUOTE=phaedon;49947949]So do you consider it wrong, regardless of candidate?[/QUOTE] I don't condone it, but the article is clearly trying to smear trump even if it is common to do so
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49947976]I don't condone it, but the article is clearly trying to smear trump even if it is common to do so[/QUOTE] smearing Trump for something illegal he did that you just stated you don't condone? how low can the media stoop
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49948063]smearing Trump for something illegal he did that you just stated you don't condone? how low can the media stoop[/QUOTE] I don't even like Trump and think this is dumb. This happens all the time.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49948063]smearing Trump for something illegal he did that you just stated you don't condone? how low can the media stoop[/QUOTE] You know like nearly all presidential candidates do this. Trump did something that has been done for like almost a century iirc John Adams did it fors (but my tablet is limited). I don't think it is illegal but it can be frowned apon.
[QUOTE=sgman91;49948072]I don't even like Trump and think this is dumb. This happens all the time.[/QUOTE] So a politician admitting on national television to making an illegal agreement with a presidential candidate isn't news because "it happens all the time"? I mean, people use cocaine all the time too. Does that mean it would be dumb to run a story about Trump snorting cocaine in public?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49948119]So a politician admitting on national television to making an illegal agreement with a presidential candidate isn't news because "it happens all the time"? I mean, people use cocaine all the time too. Does that mean it would be dumb to run a story about Trump snorting cocaine in public?[/QUOTE] Can you point to where it is illegal to do so?
So this whole Carson endorsement thing was just a ploy to create more of a media shitstorm around Trump? Or is Carson just that stupid?
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49948130]Can you point to where it is illegal to do so?[/QUOTE] [quote]Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.[/quote] and even if it [I]wasn't[/I], you're telling me that a candidate openly trading endorsements for the promise of cabinet positions isn't the sort of thing that ought to be pointed out? it's common enough that we should all just not care, even when we have proof it's happening?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49948146]and even if it [I]wasn't[/I], you're telling me that a candidate openly trading endorsements for the promise of cabinet positions isn't the sort of thing that ought to be pointed out? it's common enough that we should all just not care, even when we have proof it's happening?[/QUOTE] I'm asking you to back up the claim it is illegal
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49948130]Can you point to where it is illegal to do so?[/QUOTE] The link is in the OP, though good luck proving that the position was offered "for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy". I mean, unless the candidate outright says it, how can you actually prove that it was for "procuring support" and not because he thought he was the best person for the job. Not to mention, isn't picking a VP literally that?
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49948158]I'm asking you to back up the claim it is illegal[/QUOTE] [url]https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/599[/url]
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49947929]All candidates do this[/QUOTE] it's the best way to learn the ex-candidate's political ideals and incorporate them into your own in order to capture all his former followers
[QUOTE=DaMastez;49948162]The link is in the OP, though good luck proving that the position was offered "for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy". I mean, unless the candidate outright says it, how can you actually prove that it was for "procuring support" and not because he thought he was the best person for the job. Not to mention, isn't picking a VP literally that?[/QUOTE] usually VP is picked AFTER the nomination for that reason, because the the candidate has already been picked i'm pretty sure carson probably wasn't aware that announcing this just after dropping out, and before the nomination process has finished, is a pretty damning case against trump, soooo that job offer is probably burning in a trashcan now
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;49948119]So a politician admitting on national television to making an illegal agreement with a presidential candidate isn't news because "it happens all the time"? I mean, people use cocaine all the time too. Does that mean it would be dumb to run a story about Trump snorting cocaine in public?[/QUOTE] Carson didn't even insinuate a quid-pro-quo. He said that he and Trump were in conversation about him having a spot in his candidacy, not that he's doing it in exchange for his support. There's nothing illegal about telling one of your supporters that you're going to give them a position. Carson clearly said in the interview that he's supporting Trump because Trump has the best practical path to the white house and that he's going to surround himself with good people, not because Trump is offering him a job. You're WAY over-sensationalizing this by putting words in Carson's mouth based on your blinding hate for Trump.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;49948088]You know like nearly all presidential candidates do this. Trump did something that has been done for like almost a century iirc John Adams did it fors (but my tablet is limited). I don't think it is illegal but it can be frowned apon.[/QUOTE] John Adams (who got 31%) lost the election to Andrew Jackson (who got 41%) and a couple other guys got the rest, but since you need 51% to win the presidency, it came down to the house to decide who wins the presidency. Henry Clay was speaker at the time and it's theorized (nobody really knows, really) that Clay and Adams made the deal that Clay would whip the votes in favor of Adams (Clay got whatever the hell he wanted in congress), and Adams would make Clay secretary of state (the 2nd most powerful position after the presidency). [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4qJoq00ULU]Here's a video about it[/url] One could draw parallels to today. Jackson was a Washington outsider who said whatever the fuck he wanted, didn't fear retribution from the political establishment (actually killed a guy who insulted his wife), and ran an overall populist campaign. The establishment, despite their political differences, saw Jackson as a threat to the aristocratic power in DC. They got together and decided to go with a (potentially corrupt) brokered deal to keep Jackson out of the presidency. There's the possibility of this happening more and more, which is the only reason Kasich is still in the race, and it's what the republican establishment and all their billionaire backers are praying to god will happen. Also Jackson was one of the worst presidents we've had, and Trump would probably be one of the worst presidents as well.
Is that illegal? And has a candidate/elect ever been brought up on charges? I thought politics was all based on the spoils system
The candidates probably already have their appointed positions lined up in their head but they aren't supposed to declare them until after they win. Otherwise its straight up nepotism. Trump fucked up but still its less of an issue than Hillary. Maybe Kasich will get a chance now?
Whoever wins, I think Obama would make a great SoS
[QUOTE=proch;49952725]Whoever wins, I think Obama would make a great SoS[/QUOTE] I don't think that's a good idea. It sound like Putin c. 2008 to me. I think for the sake of democracy, the presidency should be the last job you hold before retirement.
This isn't too controversial, I'm pretty sure Trump already confirmed that Jeff Sessions is going to be his National Security Advisor as well and what do you know Jeff has endorsed Trump as well (Although to be fair Jeff endorsing trump without a position wouldn't of been surprising since there is no Senator who is more tough on immigration than Sessions).
I've seen Eastern European elections with less drama and bribery than these.
Couldn't we assume there was some deal between Obama and Clinton too seeing as she became SoS as soon as he moved into office?
Didn't someone in SH pretty much predict this?
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