[quote](CNN) -- Two days after he was pulled from the bottom of a swimming pool at a Disney resort in Florida, a 13-year-old boy from Missouri has died.[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/13/us/florida-disney-death/index.html?hpt=hp_t3[/url]
[quote]"The little boy was really upset that it was his brother," Loschiavo said. "He kept saying 'this is my only brother, this is my only brother. I don't want anything to happen to him.'"[/quote]
This actually made me tear up a bit [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/frown.gif[/img]
wow that sucks
shouldn't have went swimming without lifeguards though
[quote]The Pop Century Resort is located in the ESPN Wide World of Sports complex in Lake Buena Vista, near Orlando.
It celebrates the "unforgettable fads of the 1950s through the 1990s" by saluting the "timeless fashions, catch phrases, toys and dances that captivated the world through the decades," the Disney website says.[/quote]
Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong that they advertise the resort he stayed at as part of the article?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;39907214]Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong that they advertise the resort he stayed at as part of the article?[/QUOTE]
It didn't really come off as advertising for me. More like just giving a bit of background info on the area.
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;39907173]wow that sucks
shouldn't have went swimming without lifeguards though[/QUOTE]
I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Pop Century doesn't have life guards (though they do make that very clear). I don't know that it was the parents fault though; at thirteen years old most people can swim fine. It was probably just a freak accident.
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;39907214]Am I the only one who thinks it's wrong that they advertise the resort he stayed at as part of the article?[/QUOTE]
it kinda makes sense.
[URL="https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/resorts/#/value"]Pop century is one of Disney's "value" hotels[/URL], so i guess they could blame it on the pool being low quality or something possibly. i mean disney had a entire water park once where kids constantly got sick/died and shit because they were too lazy to have a pool and instead used the lake.
How exactly did he die? I mean, it was two days afterward he was pulled out of the pool.
[QUOTE=Falubii;39907283]I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Pop Century doesn't have life guards (though they do make that very clear). I don't know that it was the parents fault though; at thirteen years old most people can swim fine. It was probably just a freak accident.[/QUOTE]
Fault is not the word I would use either at this point. I will say though that letting a bunch of kids run amok at a resort pool with no adult supervision is not the mark of good parenting.
And this assumes the kid can swim. If the parent knows their kid can't swim and still let him play at the pool unsupervised, well I don't know how much more 'at fault' you can get.
Oh sheez... I drove by there just today. :/
At least he got to die at the happiest place on earth
:c
I just checked out of Pop Century on Saturday. Kind of weird knowing that someone drowned there a day later.
[QUOTE=Falubii;39907283]I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Pop Century doesn't have life guards (though they do make that very clear). I don't know that it was the parents fault though; at thirteen years old most people can swim fine. It was probably just a freak accident.[/QUOTE]
They have lifeguards on duty from 10 AM-10 PM. They have a bunch of signs around the pool which make it very clear. When lifeguards are off duty, certain water features and slides (at moderate/deluxe resorts) are turned off/closed.
[QUOTE=meppers;39907472]At least he got to die at the happiest place on earth
:c[/QUOTE]
disneyland is the original happiest place on earth
[QUOTE=Falubii;39907283]I'm not 100% sure, but I believe Pop Century doesn't have life guards (though they do make that very clear). I don't know that it was the parents fault though; at thirteen years old most people can swim fine. It was probably just a freak accident.[/QUOTE]
it said on duty at the time
so there are lifeguards on duty some of the time
[QUOTE=elfbarf;39907524]
They have lifeguards on duty from 10 AM-10 PM. They have a bunch of signs around the pool which make it very clear. When lifeguards are off duty, certain water features and slides (at moderate/deluxe resorts) are turned off/closed.[/QUOTE]
I'm a bad reader.
[quote]Anthony Johnson had been playing in a pool at Disney's Pop Century Resort on Sunday. No lifeguards were on duty at the time; signs were posted warning that swimmers swam at their own risk.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;39907625]it said on duty at the time
so there are lifeguards on duty some of the time[/QUOTE]
Damn I'm on fire.
[QUOTE=Crash15;39907332]How exactly did he die? I mean, it was two days afterward he was pulled out of the pool.[/QUOTE]
Disney is infamous for trying to hold off the declaration of death while on Disney grounds. It has happened, but only when the death was completely obvious.
life is de bubbles under the sea
[QUOTE=Moupi;39908573]life is de bubbles under the sea[/QUOTE]
God dammit.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgA2xo0HYrE[/media]
[QUOTE=Fangz;39907816]Disney is infamous for trying to hold off the declaration of death while on Disney grounds. It has happened, but only when the death was completely obvious.[/QUOTE]
so disney somehow legally prevented a doctor from pronouncing death by drowning for two days and there isn't a single public outcry about it. [I]right.[/I].. please keep your illogical conspiracy theories out of here.
[URL="http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-secondary-drowning.htm"]there's such a thing as delayed drowning[/URL], which can kill up to 72 hours after the incident. what doesn't make sense is why nothing was done about it after he was removed from the bottom of the pool.
[QUOTE=Crash15;39907332]How exactly did he die? I mean, it was two days afterward he was pulled out of the pool.[/QUOTE]
He probably saw some money grabing scheme when he was at bottom and Disney's agents silenced him
:v:
[QUOTE=Pat4ever;39913093]so disney somehow legally prevented a doctor from pronouncing death by drowning for two days and there isn't a single public outcry about it. [I]right.[/I].. please keep your illogical conspiracy theories out of here.
[URL="http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-secondary-drowning.htm"]there's such a thing as delayed drowning[/URL], which can kill up to 72 hours after the incident. what doesn't make sense is why nothing was done about it after he was removed from the bottom of the pool.[/QUOTE]
It used to be a part of the park rules until the early 90s that no one was allowed to be declared dead within the Disney property. There was an incident that ended up changing that rule after it was exposed. Also, Ambulances and police are also not allowed currently within Disney Grounds, which is one of the reasons why Disney hires there own private security staff and has there own fire house.
When you wield as much economic clout as Disney does, it's not hard to make your feelings known as to when it would be ideal to declare death. It's not hard to believe they'd swing their weight around to protect the image of their parks.
I know for a fact that hospitals will do whatever it takes to make sure patients officially 'die' anywhere except in surgery. You will not be declared dead in an operating room if they can help it. To outsiders it might not seem to matter, but where a person is officially declared dead can make a huge financial difference to the right people.
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