Miami cop gets heat for taking down internal Affairs Lieutenant
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[quote]A Miami police officer pulled a car over for speeding last month, which turned out to be a plainclothes internal affairs lieutenant who shoved the door open on the officer after refusing to provide his drivers license, leading to a struggle on the side of the road that was caught on camera.
As the two were on the ground wresting, another three Miami cops who just happened to be in the area pulled up and piled on the screaming driver– only to pull off when they realized the man at the bottom was an internal affairs lieutenant from their own department.
That was when the officer Marcel Jackson, the cop who initiated the stop, was sent to his patrol car and internal affairs Lieutenant David Ramras assumed control of the situation.
Realizing the outranking officer with more than two decades of seniority over him was going to turn him into the aggressor, Jackson pulled out his cell phone and began taking photos of the officers that began arriving.
But then a cop ordered him to stop. And another cop later ordered him to delete the photos.
However, unknowing to the other officers at the time, Jackson had video recorded the entire incident with his GoPro camera, which he had attached to his dash, but shoved in between seat after realizing they were turning against him, keeping it recording to capture the ensuing conversations. The department does not use dash or body cams, so it’s not something they would expect.
Adding to the usual irony of cops investigating cops, the department’s internal affairs department is now investigating the incident involving their own lieutenant, who has since been transferred to the special investigations section, a top-secret unit that works in partnership with state and federal agencies, considered a promotion by officers in the department, even though it is technically a lateral transfer.[/quote]
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The lieutenant then gets a promotion and the cop was fired.
What? It's common knowledge to pull over and cooperate. You don't do anything like reaching for stuff or opening your door. As those actions could pose as a possible threat. I have no idea why this Lieutenant was promoted when he did nothing to deserved it? Furthermore if he did refuse to give his license after speeding and then proceeded to open the door fuck it I'd cuff him.
[QUOTE=Aide;45386169]I have no idea why this Lieutenant was promoted when he did nothing to deserved it?[/QUOTE]corruption
[QUOTE=Joazzz;45386291]corruption[/QUOTE]
Yeah I guess IA is notorious for corruption.
Pathetic.
[QUOTE=Aide;45386169]What? It's common knowledge to pull over and cooperate. You don't do anything like reaching for stuff or opening your door. As those actions could pose as a possible threat. I have no idea why this Lieutenant was promoted when he did nothing to deserved it? Furthermore if he did refuse to give his license after speeding and then proceeded to open the door fuck it I'd cuff him.[/QUOTE]
He didn't get promoted, he got transferred. People just consider the transfer a promotion. Big difference.
i fucking hate cops who pull rank like that. "im a cop you can't pull me over for speeding" no fuck you, the law applies to you too
[i]Obviously[/i] the officer conducting the traffic stop should have known that the normal car with the normal driver inside was a secret policeman in disguise, and reacted by giving the secret policeman special treatment when he started physically assaulting the officer.
This is why plenty of people aren't wanting to trust police any more, and some even want to take things into their own hands. The corruption and beuracracy that's rife within most Police Departments is so thick.
Don't they have license plates for cops that have a badge on it for your civilian vehicle like they do for the fire department?
[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;45388129]Don't they have license plates for cops that have a badge on it for your civilian vehicle like they do for the fire department?[/QUOTE]
They should. My city can do it while they're driving.
That guy with his hat turned backwards does not look professional in the slightest
What would've happened if some average joe who got pulled over did a stupid-ass thing like this?
Because that's what should happen to this lieutenant. Cops enforce the law, that does not (or rather should not) in any way make them above it. Cops who break the law and try to use their status to weasel out of it should be dealt with publicly and very, very harshly.
"I am [I]above[/I] the law!"
[QUOTE=Aide;45386306]Yeah I guess IA is notorious for corruption.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Joazzz;45386291]corruption[/QUOTE]
lol. This is not how it works.
[editline]14th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;45388129]Don't they have license plates for cops that have a badge on it for your civilian vehicle like they do for the fire department?[/QUOTE]
I would never label my vehicle like that. It makes you a target
The law is blind.
Right or Wrong, pulling over another cop, and then proceeding to arrest them and shit is going to get you in hot water with the other officers on the force. It just is. It's the equivalent of snitching
And he wasn't really promoted, he was transferred. Police that get into trouble or officers that don't get along well with the rest of them in their sector get transferred all the time, either as punishment, or to just get rid of them without firing them
[quote]Don't they have license plates for cops that have a badge on it for your civilian vehicle like they do for the fire department?[/quote]
They have FOP tags, but you have to opt into it
I still wonder why the investigation of police is done by the same police. I'm all for law enforcement but that just begs for corruption. I seriously think IA should be done away with and instead a branch of the FBI created to do this sort of thing, because at least then FBI Agents won't give a damn about protecting some bad apples halfway across the country.
Heh. Was 'gets heat' intentional?
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45389981]I still wonder why the investigation of police is done by the same police. I'm all for law enforcement but that just begs for corruption. I seriously think IA should be done away with and instead a branch of the FBI created to do this sort of thing, because at least then FBI Agents won't give a damn about protecting some bad apples halfway across the country.[/QUOTE]
If a federal law is broken, the FBI does investigate. So no worries about that.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45389981]I still wonder why the investigation of police is done by the police. I'm all for law enforcement but that just begs for corruption. I seriously think IA should be done away with and instead a branch of the FBI created to do this sort of thing, because at least then FBI Agents won't give a damn about protecting some bad apples halfway across the country.[/QUOTE]
IA generally operates separately from the rest of the police, and actually you generally run into the opposite problem to what you described: the two hate each other, as you can clearly see.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45389981]I still wonder why the investigation of police is done by the same police. I'm all for law enforcement but that just begs for corruption. I seriously think IA should be done away with and instead a branch of the FBI created to do this sort of thing, because at least then FBI Agents won't give a damn about protecting some bad apples halfway across the country.[/QUOTE]
Or at least State Law enforcement.
Cops keep their job when they murder innocent people ("paid leave" bullshit), but when they accidentally pull over a guy of their own, they get fired and humiliated.
wat
So, Internal Affairs wasn't investigating why one of their own was trying to get out of a speeding ticket, but actually investigating why this other cop was the subject of too many internal affairs investigations.
Seems par for the "good-old-boy" America I know.
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I mean, snitches get stitches, and protect your own, am I right?
[QUOTE=asteroidrules;45390067]IA generally operates separately from the rest of the police, and actually you generally run into the opposite problem to what you described: the two hate each other, as you can clearly see.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but then having the same boss is how you end up with one guy doing his job getting fired and the other guy doing the opposite of his job getting promoted.
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