• Why can't I feel this medication/ Did my pharmacist give me a low dose?
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I went in to get all 4 of my wisdom teeth removed today, had about 20 minutes of N2O, and a general analgesic which put me to sleep. Fast forward to a few hours later, I took 2 of the Lortabs prescribed to me. Each pill is 5 milligrams of Hydrocodone and 500 milligrams of Acetaminophen (which, in my opinion, is friggin' stupid since I can't take more than 2 pills at a time or I'll be at risk for liver damage). Anyway, more to the point, it's been nearly 2 hours and I don't feel anything. The numbness of the local anesthetic that they applied is still noticeable, but it's been fading away for a while. My gums were starting to ache a few hours ago, and they honestly don't feel that much better after taking the 2 Lortabs. So basically, is it normal to have a high tolerance to this after not taking it before? I've read that the LD50 of Hydrocodone is 375 mg/kg, so I'm getting a miniscule dose. The reasoning I've understood behind this is there's too high a risk for addiction, but if it's not doing anything there's really no point at spending so much money on them.
try coldwater extraction if you want to really feel something.
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;30485599]I went in to get all 4 of my wisdom teeth removed today, had about 20 minutes of N2O, and a general analgesic which put me to sleep. Fast forward to a few hours later, I took 2 of the Lortabs prescribed to me. Each pill is 5 milligrams of Hydrocodone and 500 milligrams of Acetaminophen (which, in my opinion, is friggin' stupid since I can't take more than 2 pills at a time or I'll be at risk for liver damage). Anyway, more to the point, it's been nearly 2 hours and I don't feel anything. The numbness of the local anesthetic that they applied is still noticeable, but it's been fading away for a while. My gums were starting to ache a few hours ago, and they honestly don't feel that much better after taking the 2 Lortabs. So basically, is it normal to have a high tolerance to this after not taking it before? I've read that the LD50 of Hydrocodone is 375 mg/kg, so I'm getting a miniscule dose. The reasoning I've understood behind this is there's too high a risk for addiction, but if it's not doing anything there's really no point at spending so much money on them.[/QUOTE] Spend your money on weed instead! That would cut some pain, or at least distort it. Or you could buy that gum-numbing stuff they have at stores. idk what it's called.
I was honestly thinking of doing that, and much to my surprise my mother seems to support it. I'm just worried I'd screw it up and end up OD'ing on Tylenol. I knew someone that did that, and it nearly destroyed their liver. And to the above, I can't smoke for a few days. Although now that I have a job I could probably get a gram off a guy down the street if I got around to the bank. Weed isn't an anesthetic though, is it? It'd make me feel happy, like the N2O did, but I doubt it'd do much for the pain.
[QUOTE=Meader;30485744]Spend your money on weed instead! That would cut some pain, or at least distort it. Or you could buy that gum-numbing stuff they have at stores. idk what it's called.[/QUOTE] Oragel or Orajel I think but I doubt that would help him. I'd say buy some weed, but I'm not sure how smoking would feel after just having wisdom teeth removed.
I'd try making some hash brownies but I have no clue where to get that, because I'm really new to using drugs for recreation.
firecrackers! make these [url]http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1Untqu/goodandbaked.com/recipes/weed-firecrackers-recipe[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;30485848]I'd try making some hash brownies but I have no clue where to get that, because I'm really new to using drugs for recreation.[/QUOTE] If you don't already have a good, trustworthy dealer don't fuck about trying with that tonight. Tonight I'd say just take as few of the painkillers as possible or cold water extract the hydrocodone if you really need relief.
Oh that sounds fun, the rough crackers may be an issue with chewing but I'd be down for it. Are edibles stronger or weaker than smoked? I've smoked maybe 3 times, and the second time I got absolutely blazed on a single gram. And I know what you mean, Teal. It's not that bad right now, but they said that day 2 and 3 are much worse, and it's already starting to hurt numbed. Plus, I have my first series of days of work (5) since I started, and I'd like to have a bit of fun at the same time.
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;30485947]Oh that sounds fun, the rough crackers may be an issue with chewing but I'd be down for it.[/QUOTE] Pepin and I tried to make these and failed... they didn't get us high at all even though we followed the instructions to a T.
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;30485947]Oh that sounds fun, the rough crackers may be an issue with chewing but I'd be down for it. Are edibles stronger or weaker than smoked? I've smoked maybe 3 times, and the second time I got absolutely blazed on a single gram. And I know what you mean, Teal. It's not that bad right now, but they said that day 2 and 3 are much worse, and it's already starting to hurt numbed. Plus, I have my first series of days of work (5) since I started, and I'd like to have a bit of fun at the same time.[/QUOTE] I'd say go cold water extraction. Opiates are fun and excellent pain relievers, just can be habit forming if you make them. Edibles would be better because they last longer due to the THC metabolizing in your stomach as opposed to going directly into your bloodstream through your lungs.
Yeah, my mom is seriously concerned I'd abuse and get addicted, but what she doesn't realize is they'd be all but impossible for me to get anyway, and I'm fairly responsible when I get addicted to something, because I've quit a few things before. [editline]15th June 2011[/editline] Is there somewhere else I should be asking this questions? I know you guys probably don't like all these newbie questions.
You wont get addicted. Ive taken nearly 1000mgs of morphine this week and Ive not had any withdrawls since not having any for 24 hours.
Hydrocodone isn't really addictive if you've got slight personal control. Also, if you want to smoke, make a gravity bong. They just don't want you making a suction effect and gravity bongs eliminate that necessity.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;30485700]try coldwater extraction if you want to really feel something.[/QUOTE] CWE doesn't increase the strength whatsoever. OP, you won't feel anything less than 20mg of Hydrocodone, and that's that. Try drinking some white grapefruit juice and taking 25mg of Benedryl (Or generic Diphenhydramine works, same thing) about 20 minutes before taking the dose of 20mg Hydrocodone, and you should have a decent buzz. You seriously don't even need to preform a Coldwater Extraction at such low doses, because 2000mg Tylenol (APAP) will do absolutely nothing to harm you, it's just like a double-dose of maximum strength Tylenol, which is a common thing for people to do.
Well, I took 10 mg about 3 hours ago, perhaps I should wait until tomorrow. I was only planning on using the CWE method to prevent an acetaminophen overdose, not to increase the strength. I don't have any white grapefruit juice, is there a reason for that specifically? I had a friend take around 5 grams of Tylenol and they went in and got their stomach pumped, so I was paranoid about that.
5 Grams will make your stomach hurt for a bit, but you will NOT die from taking that much. You'll be absolutely fine with taking 2000mg Tylenol (20mg of Hydrocodone, 2000mg APAP) and probably won't feel any stomach pain at all, because that's a usual dose for a person to take with OTC APAP medications. White Grapefruit Juice potentiates Opiates a bit and makes them feel a bit stronger, so it's absolutely optional, I would however recommend taking the Diphenhydramine with the Hydrocodone, as not only does it "potentiate" it, the drowsiness of the DPH kind of mixes with the drowsy Narcotic element of Hydrocodone and it synergizes really well, also it helps relieve Opiate-induced itching and helps with the nausea as well. You will be fine not CWEing 4 of those tablets and taking them, in fact you could even go up to 25mg or 30mg of Hydrocodone and not have to worry about the APAP. CWEing is only worth it when you have something such as 5/500's and have a ridiculously high tolerance, requiring something like 60mg of Hydrocodone to catch a decent buzz. [URL]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/804/norcostatistics.jpg/[/URL] I know from experience, if it makes you feel better, all of those were taken at one time along with 25mg of DPH. All of that adds up to 1950mg (Close to 2g) of Tylenol, 30mg of Hydrocodone, and 25mg of DPH.
[QUOTE=dvsilverwing;30487252]CWE doesn't increase the strength whatsoever. [/QUOTE] I don't think that was the point he was trying to make at all
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;30487644]I don't think that was the point he was trying to make at all[/QUOTE] "Try CWE if you really want to feel something." That's pretty much inferring that CWE will increase the strength, and CWEing 10mg of Hydrocodone will make him feel something. In the context he used it in, that's just how it came off to me as.
I was meaning that he would be able to take more without worrying about his liver, therefore meaning he would then feel something.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;30487724]I was meaning that he would be able to take more without worrying about his liver, therefore meaning he would then feel something.[/QUOTE] Alright, my apologies then, it's just in the context you used it in I assumed you meant CWE would increase strength. But like I was saying OP, with such a low dose of APAP you don't really have to worry, maybe once you hit the 4G mark you might want to think about a CWE.
All good I can see how you saw it that way.
[QUOTE=jonashappy;30486977]You wont get addicted. Ive taken nearly 1000mgs of morphine this week and Ive not had any withdrawls since not having any for 24 hours.[/QUOTE] thats a metric fuckton of morphine like holy shit dude i took 15mg of morphine once (only time i've taken it) and i was buzzing hard all god damn day
[QUOTE=Meader;30485965]Pepin and I tried to make these and failed... they didn't get us high at all even though we followed the instructions to a T.[/QUOTE] Man, I love firecrackers! OP, just blend them up in a milkshake
The Hydrocodone might not be enough for your body weight i took 1 of my buddys and it didnt do shit to me so maybe take more of the vicodin
i beg to differ about the lower than 20 mgs shit. however i have the lowest fuckin tolerance ever to drugs but when i got prescribed vicodin for my wisdom teeth getting removed not only did the pain go away but i was munching on stroganoff with no pain (this is the day i got them removed) and laughing my ass off at the matrix after taking 2... well maybe it was 4-6 over the course of 6 hours but still.
This was the second time I was knocked out for oral surgery, in the same place. Just woke up super groggy, the part just before I got knocked out was pretty nice because the nurse lady was talking to me and I was laughing a good bit. Didn't hurt that she was pretty good looking.
being high and pretty girls seems to mix pretty well.
you can take up to 4000mg APAP safely before you have to worry about liver damage. 5000-10,000mg and you should worry. I got prescribed the same thing (percocet) when i had a wisdom tooth INFECTION. I was on them and they didn't do shit i popped 3 days worth (that's all they gave me at the time) in one day and i was still in agony. You know how you got that shit prescribed after having the tooth out? my infection/pain was so bad that after they finally removed the tooth (had to pay a fuckload of money because it was 'emergency surgery' due to how bad the infection was) i wasn't in half the pain i was. It felt so relieving to have the tooth out, and i'd say that once the tooth was out that pain wasn't even half as bad. Getting the tooth out felt so good, and after having the infection for almost 2 weeks i didn't even take the percs after it was removed, i just saved them. so yeah, just be glad it didn't get infected... and keep that shit clean (even with the tooth out)
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;30511096]being high and pretty girls seems to mix pretty well.[/QUOTE] thats why i'm glad the girl i'm with (sorta its complicated) is a total stoner i love getting high with her
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