Federal court approves warrantless tracking of cell phone users - Polidicks

[QUOTE=RT]A ruling this week in a United States appeals court means officers of the law can legally and physically track down suspects based off of cell phone data without ever obtaining a warrant. A 2-1 decision from the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit on Tuesday means law enforcement needn’t prove probable cause when asking a telecom company for location data that could be used to pinpoint suspected criminals.[/QUOTE] [URL]http://rt.com/usa/phone-warrant-appeals-court-860/[/URL] This could be abused, i really don't like this. [editline]1st August 2013[/editline] oh shit nvm im dumb [editline]1st August 2013[/editline] no wait 31 was yesterday, god dammit facepunch wont let me edit my edit

Bye bye privacy

I'm going to start making iPhone cases that are Faraday cages. Drawback: Your phone only works when you take it out of the case/flip the lid to let the antenna see the world. Advantage: You can only be tracked during those periods as well.

Not surprised about the ruling. These records are business records and not private information. Different levels of protection. They still can't record you without a warrant - ideally.

Whew, I was worried they'd lost track of me for a minute there.

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;41671178]-snipped for good idea-[/QUOTE] You should snip that and patent it, I am serious. I would buy one.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;41671805]Not surprised about the ruling. These records are business records and not private information. Different levels of protection. They still can't record you without a warrant - ideally.[/QUOTE] Business records still need a warrant to be reviewed. That's why in all the crime-thrillers, when the grizzled cop goes to the Pawn Shop to see their catalog of sales and the Pawn Shop owner is in on it he brickwalls and says they totally need a warrant. The issue is that the Telecoms are aiding and abetting the cops by forking over what is ostensibly your data from their records without your consent or the impetus of a warrant.

Man, it was fucked up before, when it needed evidence to get but now it's borderline stupid. I'm thankful I don't live in 'Merica

Is there a different source?

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;41671178]I'm going to start making iPhone cases that are Faraday cages. Drawback: Your phone only works when you take it out of the case/flip the lid to let the antenna see the world. Advantage: You can only be tracked during those periods as well.[/QUOTE] I'll take 10.

[QUOTE=toaster468;41673054]You should snip that and patent it, I am serious. I would buy one.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/07/16/stop-nsa-stylish-iphone-cover"]They already exist.[/URL] (I don't 100% know for sure that that one's a proper cage, but they claim to be. I am not endorsing the linked product at all.) And besides, the amount of prior art behind Faraday cages means the only thing I'd be doing by patenting it is contributing to the problem of patent trolling. And I'm in no actual position to fire up some kind of manufacturing process. If I did a Kickstarter now, it would be the most flail-mad clusterfuck around the time it came to directly talk with manufacturers. I could prooooooobably fuck about until I got a working case that was a proper cage, but the manufacturing and distribution universe is one I'm entirely unfamiliar with. I would get eaten alive. :v: Besides, I'd rather [I]everyone[/I] start making them instead of monopolizing.

[QUOTE=scout1;41674275]Is there a different source?[/QUOTE] yeah but they link back to RT