John Kasich Quietly Signs Measure Blocking Local Governments From Raising Minimum Wage - Polidicks

[quote]Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) signed a bill earlier this week blocking local governments from raising the minimum wage above the level set by the state. Legislators pushed the law through earlier this month, as part of a package of measures introduced at the very end of their session. Rep. Denise Driehaus, the ranking Democrat on the state House Finance Committee, where the language was introduced, was stunned by the move. The new law will preempt an effort by Cleveland to raise its minimum wage to $15 an hour. In contrast, the minimum hourly wage rate set by Ohio is $8.10. (It will increase to $8.15 next year.) Cleveland leaders had lobbied the state to preempt a minimum wage hike in the city, claiming that a higher minimum wage would hurt the local economy. The law also prevents local municipalities from requiring businesses to provide benefits like paid leave to workers.[/quote] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/john-kasich-minimum-wage_us_585ae84be4b0de3a08f3fde5[/url]

Keeping screwing over the poor and underprivileged, see where it gets you. $8.10 is nothing to live on, and the buying power of the dollar isn't going to increase any time soon. I hope people start to catch onto the fact that people like Kasich only give a shit about themselves and their rich buddies. Hope the next election does some good.

[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51564635]Keeping screwing over the poor and underprivileged, see where it gets you. $8.10 is nothing to live on, and the buying power of the dollar isn't going to increase any time soon.[/QUOTE] Woah there buddy, it's raising to $8.15. That's a very livable wage.

If you're saying that your economy can't sustain taking care of your workers, your economy deserves to crash and burn, and that's exactly what will happen as well as untold amounts of suffering to the people you're supposed to be stewarding, especially the most vulnerable. Ohio has also been in trouble for essentially running debtors' prisons before.

I hope my state's next governor is infinitely wiser and not such an overtly conservative ass that Kasich is. Less than 2 years are left of him and I hope mistakes aren't repeated, though hope doesn't go a long way these days.

What the fuck, I thought Kasich was the best Republican candidate and now this? [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] At least $8.15/hr isn't TERRIBLE, just below what it should be.

Y'know I wonder how long it'll take before Americans start getting violent and start rioting over this sort of thing instead of other dumb shit that's used to justify it.

I believe it is time to introduce citizen salary, but it'll never happen in the US now. Finland is making moves towards it. It would lead to money becoming ''less worth'' as a commodity, and create an actual circulatory system of money, as it should be. Prevent the people at the top from simply hoarding it. What use is water if it stays in the clouds and it never rains?

Keep screwing over people on lower wages, just like you'll continue to do, because who cares about anyone but me? More money! I need to leave the system, but I desperately want to help other's who can't.

[QUOTE=torres;51564862]I believe it is time to introduce citizen salary, but it'll never happen in the US now. Finland is making moves towards it. It would lead to money becoming ''less worth'' as a commodity, and create an actual circulatory system of money, as it should be. Prevent the people at the top from simply hoarding it. What use is water if it stays in the clouds and it never rains?[/QUOTE] that's simply a much harder process for a nation with 320 million people than a place like finland

[QUOTE=Qaus;51564819]What the fuck, I thought Kasich was the best Republican candidate and now this? [/QUOTE] thats the sad thing, he was

[QUOTE=torres;51564862]I believe it is time to introduce citizen salary, but it'll never happen in the US now. Finland is making moves towards it. It would lead to money becoming ''less worth'' as a commodity, and create an actual circulatory system of money, as it should be. Prevent the people at the top from simply hoarding it. What use is water if it stays in the clouds and it never rains?[/QUOTE] in a nation as large as america with as much debt and GDP and commerce (especially with other nations), this is potentially a very dangerous thing to start doing. USD could inflate dramatically, entire industries could crash, etc.

[QUOTE=Judas;51564890]that's simply a much harder process for a nation with 320 million people than a place like finland[/QUOTE] That's absolute bollocks, it's only hard because the 1% don't want to give up their 250m 2nd house + 5 sports cars. I don't meant to sound preachy, but it's a core systematic issue, people have abused the system and the rest are left to rot.

Of course you'd need to reform the economy, and I believe it is way past due anyway. We need a more sustainable global economy, because our current system WILL slow down, unless we get to space. The reason is very, very simple. The Earth is NOT infinite, and there's NOT unlimited amounts of resources available. Our economy was built assuming it is. In centuries past, it seemed infinite because what we did was ultimately inconsequential. Wood regrows, farms can be resowed, all that jazz. And we were fewer. Now, with a massive polluting industry, a failing ecosystem and a greater population than ever, we're suddenly gaining an effect on the planet as a whole. Why should citizen salary be a thing? Because automation is taking up more and more of our industry, increasingly leaving manual labour as a thing of the past. There will simply not be enough jobs for everyone, and unless we take proactive steps, we'll end up with a society reminiscent of Europe prior to the Bubonic Plague, and be reduced to literal peasants.

[QUOTE=Qaus;51564819]What the fuck, I thought Kasich was the best Republican candidate and now this? [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] At least $8.15/hr isn't TERRIBLE, just below what it should be.[/QUOTE] He was. Welcome to the circus of insanity that the GOP has become.

[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;51564914]That's absolute bollocks, it's only hard because the 1% don't want to give up their 250m 2nd house + 5 sports cars. I don't meant to sound preachy, but it's a core systematic issue, people have abused the system and the rest are left to rot.[/QUOTE] How do you solve this problem, though? The problem with the rich is, governments can't shit on them like they can with other demographics, because guess what? They're [I]rich[/I]. They can put their money in tax havens, invest it in liquid assets, or hell, just move out of the damn country. Numerous governments have tried high tax rates before, and part of the issue with [I]solely[/I] relying on that is that rich people will just go somewhere else. I mean, we're talking about the people who use near-slave labour in China and employ children in sweatshops just to maximise profit margins, a move to Zurich is hardly unacceptable for these individuals' moral standards. (Not saying everyone who's rich is like that, but I imagine most ethical rich people would be more sympathetic, even if they don't necessarily agree with it.)

That's the fucking height of hypocrisy. Political party that condemns big government overruling small government decides to overrule smaller governments using big government.

Interesting development. Is this just a matter of standardizing wage growth across the state, or does Kasich expect a federal mandate soon? [QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;51564914]That's absolute bollocks, it's only hard because the 1% don't want to give up their 250m 2nd house + 5 sports cars. I don't meant to sound preachy, but it's a core systematic issue, people have abused the system and the rest are left to rot.[/QUOTE] Don't kid yourself. You wouldn't be able to pay everyone a living wage even if you took every last cent from the top tier of American society. [editline]21st December 2016[/editline] The point being that relying on tax revenue to fix your problems is not a sustainable strategy.

[QUOTE=torres;51564941]Of course you'd need to reform the economy, and I believe it is way past due anyway. We need a more sustainable global economy, because our current system WILL slow down, unless we get to space. The reason is very, very simple. The Earth is NOT infinite, and there's NOT unlimited amounts of resources available. Our economy was built assuming it is. In centuries past, it seemed infinite because what we did was ultimately inconsequential. Wood regrows, farms can be resowed, all that jazz. And we were fewer. Now, with a massive polluting industry, a failing ecosystem and a greater population than ever, we're suddenly gaining an effect on the planet as a whole. Why should citizen salary be a thing? Because automation is taking up more and more of our industry, increasingly leaving manual labour as a thing of the past. There will simply not be enough jobs for everyone, and unless we take proactive steps, we'll end up with a society reminiscent of Europe prior to the Bubonic Plague, and be reduced to literal peasants.[/QUOTE] Who said the economies of the world are bound by the world?

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[QUOTE=Shirt.;51565256]Who said the economies of the world are bound by the world?[/QUOTE] We do. Our economy is bound by the available resources of our world. As long as we're as planet-bound as we are, that is fact.

Y'all motherfuckers ready for a new Gilded Age? Robber barons are back in style, baby.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51565189]Don't kid yourself. You wouldn't be able to pay everyone a living wage even if you took every last cent from the top tier of American society.[/QUOTE] Haha really? The Waltons, heirs of the Walmart fortune are worth [url=http://www.forbes.com/profile/walton-1/]130 Billion Dollars[/url]. This handful of people own as much wealth as the [url=http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/dec/08/one-wisconsin-now/just-how-wealthy-wal-mart-walton-family/]bottom 40%[/url] of american society. That's just 7 people holding all that cash.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51565358]Haha really? The Waltons, heirs of the Walmart fortune are worth [url=http://www.forbes.com/profile/walton-1/]130 Billion Dollars[/url]. This handful of people own as much wealth as the [url=http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2013/dec/08/one-wisconsin-now/just-how-wealthy-wal-mart-walton-family/]bottom 40%[/url] of american society. That's just 7 people holding all that cash.[/QUOTE] While this is grotesque in a sense, the net worth and the taxable income are hardly comparable. I'm sure you understand this, so can you speak a little more on the issue? I'm interested in reading your position. You can PM me if you're worried about off-topic.

[QUOTE=Chonch;51565393]While this is grotesque in a sense, the net worth and the taxable income are hardly comparable. I'm sure you understand this, so can you speak a little more on the issue? I'm interested in reading your position. You can PM me if you're worried about off-topic.[/QUOTE] Pretty much. Taking all the 1%'s wealth and giving it to everyone below the FPL will do wonders for a few years but then it'll dry up. It's not sustainable since it's net worth. You'd be acting like Louisiana.

[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51565079]That's the fucking height of hypocrisy. Political party that condemns big government overruling small government decides to overrule smaller governments using big government.[/QUOTE] The Republicans seem to be really big on big government for everything but regulating large companies and taxing rich people.

Today's Republicans are authoritarian corporatists and kleptocrats. We should've flushed them out while we had the chance, but instead we gave the whole country to them.

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;51565327]Y'all motherfuckers ready for a new Gilded Age? Robber barons are back in style, baby.[/QUOTE] Robber Barons never left. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Disgruntled;51565585]Today's Republicans are authoritarian corporatists and kleptocrats. We should've flushed them out while we had the chance, but instead we gave the whole country to them.[/QUOTE] Democrats were and are just as sociopathic.

[QUOTE=27X;51565590]Robber Barons never left. [editline]22nd December 2016[/editline] Democrats were and are just as sociopathic.[/QUOTE] Oh right, both sides are bad, so vote for the ones that'll eat your children to death. Christ al-fucking-mighty.

This is exactly what North Carolina's HB2 did, aside from the infinitely more controversial and massively inflated bathroom ordinance. That survived an attempt at repeal today, further cementing itself into North Carolina law. With these laws being put in place on a state level, when do we see them in national congress? I know we have FADA going up after the inauguration, and I'm sure it's only going to get worse from here. It amazes me that the Right has such a strong hold on this country, when no other party actively works against its constituents with such fervor and tenacity. I have to admit, I don't fully understand it, and it's become even more of a puzzle this cycle.