China cries protectionism after U.S. sets tariffs on solar panel imports - Polidicks

[QUOTE](Reuters) - The United States imposed punitive tariffs on solar panel imports from China, the latest in a series of trade disputes between the world's two biggest economies and sparking accusations by Beijing of protectionism. The new tariffs of around 30 percent, much bigger than had been expected, were set on Thursday by the U.S. Commerce Department after it ruled in favor of local firms which said Chinese exporters were dumping cut-price panels on their market. The size of the tariffs is larger than Chinese companies had expected and some analysts said it might prompt them to manufacture elsewhere or look for alternative markets. "The U.S. decision lacks fairness and China expresses its strong displeasure", a spokesman for China's Ministry of Commerce, Shen Danyang, said in a statement posted on the ministry's website ([url]www.mofcom.gov.cn[/url]). "By deliberately provoking trade friction in the clean energy sector, the U.S. is sending the world a negative signal about trade protectionism," Shen said. However, Beijing stopped short of threatening immediate retaliation. "We believe these measures by the United States damage China-U.S. cooperation in the renewable and clean energy sectors ... We hope the United States can appropriately resolve the relevant issues and take practical steps to respond to China's demands," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said. The tariffs apply to most top Chinese exporters, including Suntech Power Holdings Co Ltd and Trina Solar Ltd, at about 31 percent. President Barack Obama, running for re-election in November, has promised to crack down on what he said are unfair Chinese trade practices. The United States already has punitive duties on steel pipe, pencils, electric blankets and bedspring imports from China and was also reported in March to be investigating if imports of stainless steel sinks are sold at unfairly low prices. TRADE DUTIES Chinese officials have threatened to impose trade duties on U.S. shipments of polysilicon, the key material used in solar panels, if the U.S. moves to penalize Chinese solar companies. "The anti-dumping ruling increases the risk of retaliatory action by Chinese government on U.S. polysilicon imports into China," Deutsche Bank said in a report. The solar panel ruling follows a complaint filed last October by the U.S. subsidiary of Germany's SolarWorld AG, and six other U.S. companies that alleged unfair competition and had sought duties well above 100 percent. "The decision sends a clear signal: free trade does not mean there are no rules," Frank Asbeck, chief executive of SolarWorld told Reuters. "We expect the U.S. decision will serve as an impulse to the EU," Asbeck said, adding the company - whose shares rallied as much as 18 percent on the move - was still trying to file a similar complaint in Europe by mid-2012. DZ Bank analyst Sven Kuerten cautioned: "While the tariff may help SolarWorld in the U.S., the Chinese modules will be sold into other markets, increasing the price pressure there, so we see no huge fundamental improvement for SolarWorld." China's solar companies hold more than 60 percent of the global market. The U.S. market alone accounts for about 20 percent of sales of China's largest solar panel manufacturers. Their heavy reliance on subsidized U.S. and European markets has prompted criticism that loans from Chinese state-run banks and low prices gave the companies an unfair advantage. UNFAIR SUPPORT Under the decision, 59 Chinese solar companies that petitioned Washington in the case will also face an import duty of about 31 percent, including Yingli Green Energy, LDK Solar, Canadian Solar, Hanwha solar One, JA Solar Holding and Jinko Solar. Other Chinese companies could now face a 250 percent tariff, although those levels could be altered before the final ruling is issued by the Commerce Department in coming months. The U.S. ruling, retroactive to cover imports dating back 90 days, comes two months after Washington set more modest tariffs of less than 5 percent on imports from China because of what it deemed Beijing's unfair support for its solar industry. Suntech, the world's largest manufacturer of solar panels, which also operates a panel plant in Arizona, denied it sold below its cost of production. "All leading companies in the global solar industry want to see a trade war averted. We need more competition and innovation, not litigation," Andrew Beebe, Suntech's chief commercial officer, said in a statement. Yingli Energy and Trina Solar said they would actively defend their position in administrative proceedings. There was speculation that Chinese companies could circumvent the restrictions by buying Taiwan cells and wafers for panels and assembling them outside the mainland. "This is positive for Taiwanese players, which can come in and supply solar cells to U.S. panel makers that won't be buying from the Chinese," said Keith Li, analyst at CIMB Research. Chinese companies had been bracing for a punitive duty of 15 percent, analysts said. Some have already started to look for markets beyond Europe and the United States. "By late last year, we started shifting our focus away from the United States and into other growth markets like Japan," said Solargiga Energy Chief Financial Officer Jason Chow. "Japan has started offering attractive incentives for solar."[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/18/us-china-trade-idUSBRE84H06O20120518[/url]

Hey, this time they're arguing about space-y things! This is a step forward!

[QUOTE=MajorMattem;36007412]Hey, this time they're arguing about space-y things! This is a step forward![/QUOTE] The original title didn't have the word "panel" in it. I considered leaving it that way to let Facepunch think the US levied a tariff on the sun.

we should embargo china

[QUOTE=zakedodead;36007607]we should eat shit and die[/QUOTE] why would you want to do something so horrible to your country?

Great, lets drive people away from solar panels for no reason.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;36007724]Great, lets drive people away from solar panels for no reason.[/QUOTE] This really doesn't have much of an impact on solar energy pricing. Solar prices are falling incredibly fast as it is already, and this certainly won't have much impact. This is much more about shutting down solar producers in China and empowering those in the United States. Naturally, China isn't going to be very happy about that. Then again, China already subsidizes solar panel exports, so that's not particularly fair. Perhaps they'll stop exporting 99% of their solar panels and actually install some in China itself.

Good perhaps this will help green energy jobs.

[QUOTE=Morcam;36008013]This really doesn't have much of an impact on solar energy pricing. Solar prices are falling incredibly fast as it is already, and this certainly won't have much impact. This is much more about shutting down solar producers in China and empowering those in the United States. Naturally, China isn't going to be very happy about that. Then again, China already subsidizes solar panel exports, so that's not particularly fair. Perhaps they'll stop exporting 99% of their solar panels and actually install some in China itself.[/QUOTE] Its about the method of solar panel china is using, US is tending more twords flexible films while china is leading the way in actual "panels". US wants it's type to thrive instead of theirs, so they limit imports.

And what is wrong with protectionism, exactly?

[QUOTE=Ardosos;36011623]And what is wrong with protectionism, exactly?[/QUOTE] It [I]could[/I] prevent consumers from purchasing better quality products at cheaper costs instead of worse quality domestic products at higher costs. Not always, but it can happen. It's an anti-capitalist tool. Which kind of makes it ironic to be complained about from Communist China.

I think the idea here was to keep solar panel production at home, stimulating growth and creation of jobs, not because we hate china or something.

[QUOTE=winsanity;36011852]I think the idea here was to keep solar panel production at home, stimulating growth and creation of jobs, not because we hate china or something.[/QUOTE] If it were because we hate China, I seriously doubt we would stop trade with [I]solar panels[/I] of all things. If we really hated them and wanted to hurt their economy, we'd tariff quarter-costing gumball toys.

[QUOTE=Morcam;36008013]This really doesn't have much of an impact on solar energy pricing. Solar prices are falling incredibly fast as it is already, and this certainly won't have much impact. This is much more about shutting down solar producers in China and empowering those in the United States. Naturally, China isn't going to be very happy about that. Then again, China already subsidizes solar panel exports, so that's not particularly fair. Perhaps they'll stop exporting 99% of their solar panels and actually install some in China itself.[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware we even had a widespread solar panel industry, I guess that makes sense then.