• Google is building 180 satellites to spread internet access worldwide
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[quote]Google's plans for satellite-based internet access just got a little more concrete. The Wall Street Journal hears that the search firm is preparing to build 180 "small, high capacity" satellites that will go into low orbit and provide internet connections to underserved areas. While details aren't forthcoming about the machines, there may be more on the way; reportedly, the company could "double" its vehicle count if all goes well. A spokeswoman didn't confirm or deny the efforts, but did note that having an internet link "significantly improves people's lives."[/quote] [url=http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/01/google-making-internet-satellites/]READ MORE[/url] [url=http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/google-invests-in-satellites-to-spread-internet-access-1401666287-lMyQjAxMTA0MDAwMTEwNDEyWj]ALT SOURCE[/url]
Hey this is pretty cool, thanks google!
Question now is how much will they charge and how fast will it be?
I take it Loon didn't work out so well?
Maybe, once this technology is improved, refined and made consumer-mass cost-efficient, we'll be able to see actually decent Internet in Australia. Yeah sure, we have landline internet connections, but the colossal fuckup of the previous monopoly by Telstra being broken up by the government just results in endless legal bollocks. You want an internet connection? You go to company X, who is a subsidiary of company Y. Company Y rents the cables from company Z, who competes with company A. So they're sub-leasing a sub-lease of a lease on sub-leased hardware. Then you add ontop of that the infinite variables that can go wrong inbetween connections, with host providers, firewalls, proxies, user hardware, some dumbass driving into the telephone pole on the corner, private businesses and sub-leasing of utilities and even on-off peak hour traffic. A long rant. But I am just so sick of Australia's shit internet, even if this "Satellite" option is more or less irrelevant to us here.
too bad the laws of physics prevents it from ever being good for anything requiring low latency, but hey if its just for getting basic internet to the middle of africa, then its fine. but it'll never be able to stream twitch.tv
Imperial march music from star wars is appropriate for this, Google is one of the most progressive companies out there but has a horrible darkside anti-privacy, tax evasion and other horrible methods of the darkside
I hope it includes emergency service capabilities.
This is anti-competitive says every other isp
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[QUOTE=Sableye;44981507]too bad the laws of physics prevents it from ever being good for anything requiring low latency, but hey if its just for getting basic internet to the middle of africa, then its fine. but it'll never be able to stream twitch.tv[/QUOTE] Streaming doesn't require low latency, it requires high bandwidth.
[QUOTE=danharibo;44981560]Streaming doesn't require low latency, it requires high bandwidth.[/QUOTE] Jitter and other latency relevant issues fuck stream over unless you have a big buffer. I am not sure if you consider voice/video call streaming right now. [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] Like, it won't matter for Youtube/Netflics, on Twitch, I am not sure how much buffering their player allows.
I find it funny how google wants to provide internet across the world using satellites and the most important thing FP is worried about is streaming twitch.
This is how it all begins, calling it now. They control us all, from the skies. I can hear the voices. The stars are screaming!!
Google is a funny name for what is going to turn out to be the despotic corporate overlords of the future dystopian police state.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44981822]Jitter and other latency relevant issues fuck stream over unless you have a big buffer. I am not sure if you consider voice/video call streaming right now. [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] Like, it won't matter for Youtube/Netflics, on Twitch, I am not sure how much buffering their player allows.[/QUOTE] I don't think that the goal of this project is to let people in Africa watch their favorite streamers.
I see they've upgraded from balloons to satellites. Google truly is getting big.
[QUOTE=booster;44982039]This is how it all begins, calling it now. They control us all, from the skies. I can hear the voices. The stars are screaming!![/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.buzzpirates.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/win_terminator.jpg[/IMG]
I bet ya they gonna use Space-X delivery service
The Google deathbots know what we question through Google search The google deathbots know where every human is located through andoid smartphone tracking The Google deathbots know what we look at through Google glass The Google deathbots know what all our streets look like through street view The Google deathbots know what's hiding in military bases through Google earth Google owns deathbots construction facilities Google is constructing an unstoppable deathbot control network WAKE UP IDIOTS
Put all of them above America so we have really fast internet.
The google police, they come for me in the night!
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;44981522]tax evasion[/QUOTE] This is probably the reason you should hate Google the least as every major corporation in America evades taxes.
[QUOTE=Sableye;44981507]too bad the laws of physics prevents it from ever being good for anything requiring low latency, but hey if its just for getting basic internet to the middle of africa, then its fine. but it'll never be able to stream twitch.tv[/QUOTE] I'm sorry if I'm getting this wrong but if we're talking geosynchronous orbits on those satellites you'd expect an rtt of around 240ms (t=2(35786/300000)) which is not at all too bad unless you're planning to play fast paced games with it. [editline]3rd June 2014[/editline] or, since they have a fuckload of satellites, they could be at a much much lower orbit and thus nulling said lag
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44981822]Like, it won't matter for Youtube/Netflics, on Twitch, I am not sure how much buffering their player allows.[/QUOTE] The default twitch player is god awful, I have to use VLC or it freezes every few seconds on low instead of streaming at source with no problems.
Once this project is finished, I wish that prices in for better internet be cost around 20 dollars a month or 50 MB/s as a basic plan/bronze plan, 40 dollars a month should introduced 100 MB/s which is the silver plan, and the gold plan, the most premium plan will cost 60 dollars a month for 150 MB/s... The prices should not lower or go higher, however with better technology improvements and greater speed/capacity, the speed will increase dramatically for each and every plan. If this is plan ever did come true, it be the best internet affordable for most Americans and also those outside of the united stats who's currency is equivalent towards ours. By 2030, I think our internet speed for the bronze plan will be 20 dollars for 300 MB/s, and the golden plan be 900 MB/s... maybe higher then that.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;44982444]I don't think that the goal of this project is to let people in Africa watch their favorite streamers.[/QUOTE] Actually video calling would be huge for them since even the telephone isn't really part of their culture, being able to talk face to face would allow them to more readily adopt the technology. Its really interesting why certain things don't catch on there such as many of the high efficiency stoves dont allow the women to see the flames so they dont believe that it is working right and dont use it.
Hope they launch this using private space companies instead of nasa, this would be an excellent kickstart for some.
[QUOTE=ZpankR;44984439]I'm sorry if I'm getting this wrong but if we're talking geosynchronous orbits on those satellites you'd expect an rtt of around 240ms (t=2(35786/300000)) which is not at all too bad unless you're planning to play fast paced games with it or, since they have a fuckload of satellites, they could be at a much much lower orbit and thus nulling said lag[/QUOTE] Ever watch CNN do live satellite feeds? Even with high powered transmitters things can go wonkey and the lag is very noticeable. What I was saying though was that it will allow for internet connectivity and some streaming but there really isn't a replacement for ground based infrastructure because the distances things travel is much shorter [editline]2nd June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44984716]Hope they launch this using private space companies instead of nasa, this would be an excellent kickstart for some.[/QUOTE] Seeing as how they plan on using 180 SATs, there's no way they could use government space agencies to do this, one launch even carrying multiple SATs costs in the hundreds of millions, spacex can do it with more payload for less
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44984716]Hope they launch this using private space companies instead of nasa, this would be an excellent kickstart for some.[/QUOTE] NASA doesn't launch anything.
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