• New skyscraper near Empire State Building approved (it's not a mosque)
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11091931[/url] [quote]A new 67-storey skyscraper has won the approval of the New York authorities despite efforts to stop the construction by the owner of the Empire State Building. The full city council backed the 15 Penn Plaza by a 47-1 vote. The office building will stand nearly as tall as the 102-storey Empire State Building (ESB), two blocks away. ESB owner Anthony Malkin had argued the new building would ruin the "uniqueness" of the city's skyline. But New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Manhattan should embrace new investments, adding: "Anybody that builds a building in New York City changes its skyline. "We don't have to run around to every other owner and apologize," Mr Bloomberg told a news conference. "One guy owns a building, and he'd like to have it be the only tall building. I'm sorry that's not the real world," he added. A spokesman for the building's developer said the building would be an "an outstanding addition to New York's skyline". In a statement, Mr Malkin said: "This is not about banning tall buildings, but about preserving the very uniqueness of the New York City skyline." The Empire State Building, which stands 1,250ft (381m), was the tallest building in New York City until the construction of the World Trade Center in Manhattan's Financial District in 1970. The building, built in 1931, once again held the title following the 9/11 attacks. The new skyscraper will stand 1,190ft-tall (363m). Its development is still in the planning stages.[/quote] Note that it comes up just short of the ESB's aerial, yet has 35 fewer floors. Congratulations 21st Century, you've managed to become less efficient than Art Deco. It's almost enough to make you want Brutalism back...
9/11 was done by the owners of the esb
Well they want to build a tall building, just let them. Nothing wrong with that.
I, for one, would appreciate another skyscraper on New York's skyline.
ditto
It kinda looks like the building in hong kong, I like it.
[QUOTE]"We don't have to run around to every other owner and apologize," Mr Bloomberg told a news conference. "One guy owns a building, and he'd like to have it be the only tall building. I'm sorry that's not the real world," he added.[/QUOTE] Dayum, a politician who's pretty straight forward.
Good to know it's not a mosque. [editline]10:59PM[/editline] why didn't you let people know it's not a church either?
[QUOTE=Lambeth;24356782]Good to know it's not a mosque. [editline]10:59PM[/editline] why didn't you let people know it's not a church either?[/QUOTE] It was a joke given the recent headlines, get that stick out of your ass
bad joke
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;24356227][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11091931[/url] Note that it comes up just short of the ESB's aerial, yet has 35 fewer floors. Congratulations 21st Century, you've managed to become less efficient than Art Deco. It's almost enough to make you want Brutalism back...[/QUOTE] It's probably because it has high ceilings, just like Trump's building.
The ESB is still more iconic and will continue to be my favorite skyscraper.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;24356864]bad joke[/QUOTE] boohoo
[QUOTE=Capitulazyguy;24356227][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11091931[/url] Note that it comes up just short of the ESB's aerial, yet has 35 fewer floors. Congratulations 21st Century, you've managed to become less efficient than Art Deco. It's almost enough to make you want Brutalism back...[/QUOTE] From the looks of it, the floors are likely wider and taller than the ESB's. This seems to serve several useful purposes in my mind... [LIST] [*]Higher ceilings are more ergonomic [*]Less floors means elevators can operate much faster and with higher efficiency [*]Wider floors can simplify the layouts of large company offices that may have previously required multiple smaller floors [*]Less floors could (with proper design) lead to more efficient A/C [/LIST] I imagine there may be other benefits to having less floors such as increased fire safety and/or building security. The only two significant downsides I can see are that fewer offices will have a natural source of light, and the building may overshadow the street more than a 'stepped' skyscraper like the ESB does. Efficiency goes far beyond the shear number of floors a building contains for a given height. In any case, the new building likely has more floor space than the ESB due to newer construction techniques (thinner walls, less or thinner supports necessary).
[QUOTE=1nfiniteseed;24356356]I, for one, would appreciate another skyscraper on New York's skyline.[/QUOTE] I'd appreciate a nice-looking one in London or one of the other main cities in Britain. I mean Canary Wharf is nice and all but it's not exactly a huge eye-catcher.
Hopefully they will make this one sturdier than the last one.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;24356864]bad joke[/QUOTE] [img]http://imgur.com/ay8al.gif[/img] On Topic: I like the fact that things are moving forward and change is being made.
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