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[B]CNN Senate Democrats give up bid to pass $1.1 trillion spending bill[/B] [quote=CNN]In a dramatic twist played out on the floor of the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid conceded Thursday night he lacked the votes to bring up a $1.1 trillion spending bill designed to fund the federal government for the rest of the current fiscal year. Reid, D-Nevada, accused Republicans of withdrawing previously pledged support for the bill, and said he would work with the Senate Republican leader to draft a short-term spending measure that would keep the government running beyond Saturday, when the current spending authorization resolution expires. "A number of Republican senators told me they'd like to see this pass, but they can't support it," Reid said, adding that nine GOP senators who previously told him they backed the bill had changed their stance. The shift announced by Reid culminated a Republican effort to kill the spending bill and likely put off major spending decisions for the rest of fiscal year 2011 until a more conservative Congress convenes in January. The House of Representatives has passed a resolution that authorizes spending at the same level as last year until September 30, when fiscal year 2011 ends. The Senate spending bill, drafted by Democrats and Republicans on the Appropriations Committee, was a more flexible appropriation measure that would have given government departments more leeway in how they spend their budgets. Earlier Thursday, Defense Secretary Robert Gates called for the Senate to pass the spending bill because it would allow his department to meet changing priorities in the current year. ...[/quote] Full article/source: [url]http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/12/16/government.spending/index.html?hpt=T2[/url] [B]FOX Reid Pulls Controversial $1.2 Trillion Spending Bill in Favor of Short-Term Budget Fix[/B] [quote=FOX News]Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, bowing to Republican opposition to a 1,924-page $1.2 trillion spending measure packed with earmarks, withdrew the bill and said he would work with Republican leaders on a smaller, short-term budget fix to avoid a looming government shutdown. The government already is operating on a temporary stopgap measure, set to expire at the end of Friday. Republicans had insisted on having the massive spending bill read aloud – a move that would have delayed a final vote until next week. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has offered a one-page stopgap bill that would fund the government for just the next two months. Reid said he would with McConnell to finalize such a measure. Reid, in announcing his decision, lashed out, saying that he had the support of the nine GOP senators needed to pass the measure, but suddenly that support evaporated. "This action taken by my friends on other side of aisle going to cause people to lose their job," Reid said. McConnell gave a different interpretation. "He doesn't have the votes," McConnell said. "And the reason he doesn't have the votes is because members on this side of the aisle increasingly felt concerned about the way we do business." A McConnell aide said the leader "worked the phones" for days, pressing his members to quash the bill. Republicans had strongly condemned the $1.27 trillion omnibus spending bill, which would fund the government through Sept. 30, for its $8.3 billion worth of earmarks -- though some of those earmarks belong to Republicans. ...[/quote] Full Article/Source: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/16/senate-scrambles-avoid-government-shutdown-gop-forces-read-thon/#ixzz18KqZl6Oh[/url] [B]MSNBC GOP Senate resistance kills giant spending bill [/B] [quote=MSNBC]Democrats controlling the Senate abandoned on Thursday a huge catchall spending measure combining nearly $1.3 trillion worth of unfinished budget work, including another $158 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The 1,924-page bill collapsed of its own weight after an outcry from conservatives who complained it was stuffed with more than $8 billion in homestate pet projects known as earmarks. Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., gave up on the bill after several Republicans who had been thinking of voting for it pulled back their support. GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky threw his weight against the bill in recent days, saying it was "unbelievable" that Democrats would try to muscle through in the days before Christmas legislation that usually takes months to debate. "Just a few weeks after the voters told us they don't want us rushing major pieces of complicated, costly, far-reaching legislation through Congress, we get this," McConnell said. "This is no way to legislate." The turn of events was a major victory for earmark opponents like Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Tom Coburn, R-Okla., who for years have been steamrolled by the old-school members of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee. But the spending barons saw their power ebb in the wake of midterm elections that delivered major gains for Republicans — with considerable help from anti-spending tea party activists. ...[/quote] Full Story/ Source: [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40710315/ns/politics-capitol_hill/[/url] I honestly didn't expect it to get pulled so fast.
I like how Fox exaggerates it by adding 0.1 trillion dollars
I wouldn't post FOX news articles, they are scientifically proven to make you dumber. And where the fuck do we get the money to do this shit? Our deficit is massive.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26745307]I wouldn't post FOX news articles, they are scientifically proven to make you dumber.[/QUOTE] didn't that report also put CNN and MSNBC close by to Fox?
[quote]Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, bowing to Republican opposition to a 1,924-page $1.2 trillion spending measure packed with earmarks, withdrew the bill and said he would work with Republican leaders on a smaller, short-term budget fix to avoid a looming government shutdown. [/quote] love ya fox news make it sound like it's $1.2t of new spending, make it sound like the earmarks are all democratic
^Rated bad reading (Can we please have this rating back?) [QUOTE=Atokniro;26745276]I like how Fox exaggerates it by adding 0.1 trillion dollars[/QUOTE] That's nothing, MSNBC added 0.2 trillion dollars in their article.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26745307]I wouldn't post FOX news articles, they are scientifically proven to make you dumber. And where the fuck do we get the money to do this shit? Our deficit is massive.[/QUOTE] i luv fx news its da bestest neews sight in the intarwebs
[QUOTE=Glaber;26745382]^Rated bad reading (Can we please have this rating back?) [/QUOTE] Why would you have rated me bad reading?
See the bottom of the Fox News quote. [Quote=Fox]A McConnell aide said the leader "worked the phones" for days, pressing his members to quash the bill. Republicans had strongly condemned the $1.27 trillion omnibus spending bill, which would fund the government through Sept. 30, for its $8.3 billion worth of earmarks -- [B]though some of those earmarks belong to Republicans.[/B][/quote]
[QUOTE=Glaber;26745449]See the [b]bottom of the Fox News quote.[/b][/QUOTE] Exactly. The bottom. My quote was from the first sentence. You think most people will read to the bottom of the article? This is how Fox gets people like you to believe their bullshit.
democrats in denial [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] if it's fox it's automatically wrong and dumb, because democrats aren't biased or ever tell wrong information either
the bottom one says 1.3 trillion
man Reid is such a pussy a Republican would never bow down to Republican opposition like that
[QUOTE=Prismatex;26745590]Exactly. The bottom. My quote was from the first sentence. You think most people will read to the bottom of the article? This is how Fox gets people like you to believe their bullshit.[/QUOTE] That's not even the bottom of the article. All 3 quotes are only part way in. If you click the link for the full story you would come upon the following near/at the end: [quote=FOX]Other senators with earmarks in the bill after voting last month to ban them include Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn.; Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga.; Richard Burr, R-N.C.; Kay Baily Hutchison, R-Texas; Bill Nelson, D-Fla.; and Jeff Sessions, R-Ala. Even avid earmarker Thad Cochran of Mississippi, the top Republican on the Appropriations Committee -- who obtained almost 300 earmarks totaling more than $500 million -- hasn't explicitly come out in support of the bill, though he's widely expected to vote with Democrats later this week to advance it. So is Ohio Republican George Voinovich, who's responsible, along with Democratic homestate colleague Sherrod Brown, for 77 earmarks totaling $94 million.[/quote]
I'm gonna love it when even a budget fix bill fails to get passed and we just all but run out of money. :10bux: says it happens
[QUOTE=Atokniro;26745276]I like how Fox exaggerates it by adding 0.1 trillion dollars[/QUOTE] I like how nit-picky everyone is now and days.
[QUOTE=Prismatex;26745590]Exactly. The bottom. My quote was from the first sentence. You think most people will read to the bottom of the article? This is how Fox gets people like you to believe their bullshit.[/QUOTE] are you seriously implying that CNN and msnbc aren't not also at fault of this constant bullshit?
[QUOTE=Mr.Dounut;26746743]are you seriously implying that CNN and msnbc aren't not also at fault of this constant bullshit?[/QUOTE] Fox is the worst. [editline]16th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Amplar;26745663]democrats in denial [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] if it's fox it's automatically wrong and dumb, because democrats aren't biased or ever tell wrong information either[/QUOTE] strawman
Nothing is going to get down in Congress in the next 2 years. Then everyone is going to blame Obama.
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;26746727]I like how nit-picky everyone is now and days.[/QUOTE] 0.1 trillion is a fuckload of money. How can they all differ so much?
[QUOTE=Habsburg;26746784]Fox is the worst. [/QUOTE] Fox news is fair and balanced. [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=MuTAnT;26747076]0.1 trillion is a fuckload of money. How can they all differ so much?[/QUOTE] No one actually had time to read the bill.
[QUOTE=ruffles;26747072]Nothing is going to get down in Congress in the next 2 years. Then everyone is going to blame Obama.[/QUOTE] Isn't that how it was the past 2 years?
Stimulus, TARP, and Health Care reform say hello. That last one's going to get undone and then done properly though.
[QUOTE=Glaber;26755825]Stimulus, TARP, and Health Care reform say hello. That last one's going to get undone and then done properly though.[/QUOTE] TARP was signed into law by Bush [editline]17th December 2010[/editline] And I don't expect HCR to go anywhere. If anything, it needs some massive improvements before it will be real reform.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26745307]And where the fuck do we get the money to do this shit? Our deficit is massive.[/QUOTE] EXACTLY We don't have the money. For decades, the Congress has been passing spending bills without actually having the money. They've seriously ramped it up in the past 3 years, and generations of Americans are completely fucked for it.
Ok how about this why has the defense budget ballooned even though the Soviet Union collapsed 20 years ago?
Other threats. See also Sep/11/2001
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;26757669]Ok how about this why has the defense budget ballooned even though the Soviet Union collapsed 20 years ago?[/QUOTE] Because it costs more to buy or build the same things as it did in the past. But yeah, it could be trimmed some. So could welfare fraud.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;26745307]I wouldn't post FOX news articles, they are scientifically proven to make you dumber. And where the fuck do we get the money to do this shit? Our deficit is massive.[/QUOTE] Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter.
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;26757669]Ok how about this why has the defense budget ballooned even though the Soviet Union collapsed 20 years ago?[/QUOTE] we must bomb as many afghan weddings as possible and buy cool looking weapons that look great on recruitment ads
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