Wales' top doctor proposes fast food ban near schools - Polidicks

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-21121829[/url] [QUOTE][B]Wales' chief medical officer has suggested banning fast food outlets near schools.[/B] Dr Ruth Hussey said keeping children in school at lunchtime and providing healthy meals could tackle obesity. Official figures say 35% of children in Wales are overweight and 19% of them are obese. The Welsh government is considering whether legislation would help deal with obesity and other public health problems such as smoking and drinking. Dr Hussey said banning applications for fast food outlets near schools might make a difference. Preventing pupils from leaving school at lunchtimes and providing them with healthy food could also have an impact, she said. [B]The Welsh government said she was trying to encourage a debate and there were no specific proposals on how close takeaways should be allowed to school gates.[/B] [B] 'Healthy choices' [/B] Dr Hussey said: "Obesity in childhood can lead to a lifetime of serious health problems, including heart disease, cancer, diabetes and high blood pressure. "Refusing applications for more fast food outlets in the vicinity of schools would support children to make healthier food choices." The Welsh government has published a [URL="http://wales.gov.uk/docs/phhs/consultation/121129consultationen.pdf"]green paper[/URL] asking whether a Public Health Bill is needed. Any proposed law changes would have to be within the assembly's power and comply with human rights legislation. The green paper says that although health is improving, it is not as good as it should be. A bill could place a legal duty on public bodies to consider the health of the nation and to make sure that policies are as beneficial as possible to public health. Through planning guidance adopted in December 2011, Wrexham council has banned new hot food takeaways opening within 400m of schools. Wrexham councillor Arfon Jones petitioned the assembly last year calling for an exclusion zone that would also stop takeaway vans trading near schools. He welcomed the chief medical officer's proposal, but said the Welsh government should also look at fast food vans. "We need to close loopholes and prohibit fast food vehicles as well," he said. "I would like children to eat school meals and healthy options. "Anything we can do to further that and reduce obesity and ill health among children has to be encouraged." [/QUOTE]

Or how about teaching them good eating habits or make the fat kids run laps?

First you've gotta make healthier food more accessible and cheaper.

[QUOTE=download;39314594]Or how about teaching them good eating habits or make the fat kids run laps?[/QUOTE] you can't help or teach people that are not willing to be helped or taught, I had a highschool next to a mcdonalds and despite the schools efforts the kids rather have something taste good more than anything else, regardless if its healthy or not.

[QUOTE=download;39314594]Or how about teaching them good eating habits or make the fat kids run laps?[/QUOTE] Easier said than done.

Please give us cheap and quality school food and then we can have a talk about banning things.

This doesn't do anything. They stopped selling pop at my school when I was in high school, people just didn't buy from the pop machine and the school stopped making money.

[QUOTE=buro;39314759]Easier said than done.[/QUOTE] It's done pretty easily with tasers

[QUOTE=download;39314594]Or how about teaching them good eating habits or make the fat kids run laps?[/QUOTE] Because then people will cry discrimination. Best to make everybody run 20 laps around a field every day.

cool, or we could just stop making the process of buying school meals so fucking painful heres how it happens in most schools in the uk: 1) Spend 3/4 of your lunch break waiting to get in to the food hall 2) Spend another 10 minutes waiting inside the food hall in another queue to get served 3) Pick from a small selection of equally horrible foods, none of which that appeal to children 4) Pay between £3-£5 for food you didn't even want to eat in the first place 5) Spend the remaining 1/4 of your lunch break sitting down in the food hall, eating as fast as you can in order not to be late for your next lesson compared to 1) Wait between 0-5 minutes to get served in a fast food place 2) Get tasty, cheap food and enjoy the rest of your lunch break

Packed lunch master race

[QUOTE=Noss;39314968]cool, or we could just stop making the process of buying school meals so fucking painful heres how it happens in most schools in the uk: 1) Spend 3/4 of your lunch break waiting to get in to the food hall 2) Spend another 10 minutes waiting inside the food hall in another queue to get served 3) Pick from a small selection of equally horrible foods, none of which that appeal to children 4) Pay between £3-£5 for food you didn't even want to eat in the first place 5) Spend the remaining 1/4 of your lunch break sitting down in the food hall, eating as fast as you can in order not to be late for your next lesson compared to 1) Wait between 0-5 minutes to get served in a fast food place 2) Get tasty, cheap food and enjoy the rest of your lunch break[/QUOTE] Pretty much this. And if there is anything that looks good, then of course they won't make enough of it and you won't get anything.

Why not create a cartoon shows that subtly promote healthy living and exercise? What we need is a TV show or an internet meme that promotes exercise and healthy eating habits. Children needs to be influence to be healthy.

[QUOTE=Untouch;39314798]This doesn't do anything. They stopped selling pop at my school when I was in high school, people just didn't buy from the pop machine and the school stopped making money.[/QUOTE] I hate this so much You can't get shit all in my schools lunch store, they used to have ice cream and soft drink and now all you can buy is overly expensive poorly made healthy bullshit, I'm fairly confident that the choc milk and mocha things are going this year I'LL BRING ALL THE UNHEALTHY FOOD AND COKE FROM HOME CALL THE COPS I DON'T CARE

Go for it, a school near me tried doing the same and it worked roughly as well as a chocolate fireguard.

[QUOTE=Unit-05;39314609]you can't help or teach people that are not willing to be helped or taught, I had a highschool next to a mcdonalds and despite the schools efforts the kids rather have something taste good more than anything else, regardless if its healthy or not.[/QUOTE] Agreed. That's how I am even to this day. If it tastes good I'll eat it, if it doesn't I won't, that's that.

Oh, also, I moved in to Year 7 the year that Jamie Oliver managed to pass that healthy food law, and was in secondary school the entirety of the time the law was in place. None of the fat kids lost any weight during that time - the fat kids stayed fat, regardless of the 'healthy' school dinners. They just bought a fuck load of biscuits/sweets/crisps before school to eat during the day, or went to a fast food place after school. At least when 'unhealthy' foods such as turkey twizzlers were being served in schools portions were being controlled - I doubt any school meals served during that time exceeded 1000 calories. But if people are going outside of schools to get meals, they can get as much food as they want.

[QUOTE=download;39314924]It's done pretty easily with tasers[/QUOTE] Thought about this straight away. :v: [video=youtube;cnh75XCu49c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnh75XCu49c[/video]

[QUOTE=BCell;39315187]Why not create a cartoon shows that subtly promote healthy living and exercise? What we need is a TV show or an internet meme that promotes exercise and healthy eating habits. Children needs to be influence to be healthy.[/QUOTE] This? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTWZ0BD0paY[/media]

[QUOTE=download;39314594]Or how about teaching them good eating habits[/QUOTE] Plenty of that's being done in schools here already

[QUOTE=buro;39314759]Easier said than done.[/QUOTE] Give them my gymnasium PE teacher. People called him "Spartan" for a reason :v:

My school serves pizza and there's nothing anybody can do about it

[QUOTE=Naaz;39317165]My school serves pizza and there's nothing anybody can do about it[/QUOTE] If it's good pizza, everyone could stuff their faces with it.

But what about the terrible parents who don't give the kids food and reply on takeaways and junk?

There needs a sweeping legistlation to put all fast food outlets up a flight of stairs (with guarded elevator provided for truly deformed such as wheel chair, midget, elderly etc)

Schools don't realise if they take away all the chips, chocolate cakes, pizzas, etc etc away from the fat people, They just move to Packed Lunch.