Democratic convention: Obama wins Democratic Party presidential primaries and accepts presidential n
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[quote=BBC][B]US President Barack Obama has accepted the nomination of the Democratic party, and delivered a speech saying voters face the "choice of a generation"[/B].
He laid out goals for the US, and told voters: "You didn't elect me to tell you what you wanted to hear. You elected me to tell you the truth." Republican Mitt Romney challenges Mr Obama for the White House in November. Opinion polls show the two contenders neck-and-neck.
Obama told delegates in the hall and voters watching at home that the nations problems have built up over "decades" and cannot be fixed in a flash. "I won't pretend the path I'm offering is quick or easy. I never have," he said. "But when you pick up that ballot to vote - you will face the clearest choice of any time in a generation.
"Over the next few years, big decisions will be made in Washington, on jobs and the economy; taxes and deficits; energy and education; war and peace - decisions that will have a huge impact on our lives and our children's lives for decades to come," he said.
Fired-up Biden
Vice-President Joe Biden took the stage shortly before Mr Obama to accept his own nomination. In an emotional speech that focused on family and national security, he described Mr Obama's process of dealing with the country's crises. "Folks, I've watched him. He never wavers. He steps up," Mr Biden said. "He asks the same thing over and over again: How is this going to work for ordinary families? Will it help them?" Mr Biden also criticised Mr Romney for not backing the US auto industry bailout, referring to the former Massachusetts governor's time leading private equity firm Bain Capital.
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Joe Biden: "This man has courage in his soul, compassion in his heart and [B]steel in his spine[/B]"
"I just don't think he understood what saving the automobile industry meant, to all of America. I think he saw it the Bain way, in terms of balance sheets and write-offs," he said. "The Bain way may bring your firm the highest profit. But it's not the way to lead your country from its highest office." The third and final night of speeches in Charlotte also saw former Florida governor Charlie Crist - who was previously a Republican - and Massachusetts Senator John Kerry address the convention. Mr Kerry criticised the Mr Romney for surrounding himself with "neo-conservative advisors who know all the wrong things about foreign policy". "
This is not the time to outsource the job of commander in chief," the Massachusetts senator said. Former Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords, still recovering from a near-fatal shooting on a meeting with her constituents in 2011, appeared on stage to lead the convention in the pledge of allegiance. Walking slowly and steadying herself to recite the pledge, Ms Giffords brought left many in the crowd dewy-eyed as she
smiled through her recital.
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Mr Romney said at a campaign stop on Thursday he had not watched any of the convention's speeches so far, and was not planning to do so with Mr Obama's remarks. He told reporters that Mr Obama should focus on what he had done since the last election and not make new promises. Venue change Mr Obama took the stage not in a huge stadium as organisers had hoped, but inside the convention centre after Thursday's speech was moved, with party officials citing weather concerns.
[B]Gallup poll, 1 Sept[/B]
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Republicans blamed the prospect of empty seats for the change of venue. "Our friends at the Republican convention were more than happy to talk about everything they think is wrong with America, but they didn't have much to say about how they'd make it right," Mr Obama said in his Charlotte speech.
"That's because all they have to offer is the same prescription they've had for the last thirty years," he said. "'Have a surplus? Try a tax cut. Deficit too high? Try another. Feel a cold coming on? Take two tax cuts, roll back some regulations, and call us in the morning!'" Mr Obama also spoke about his energy strategy, saying the US had opened "millions of new acres for oil and gas exploration... and we'll open more." "But unlike my opponent, I will not let oil companies write this country's energy plan, or endanger our coastlines, or collect another $4bn in corporate welfare from our taxpayers."
The president then described Mr Romney and running-mate Paul Ryan as "new to foreign policy". "But from all that we've seen and heard, they want to take us back to an era of blustering and blundering that cost America so dearly," he said. On Wednesday, ex-President Bill Clinton told the convention the economic "mess" Mr Obama inherited from the Republicans needed more than four years to fix. Mr Clinton's 50-minute speech was strongly critical of Republican economic plans, while offering a staunch defence of Mr Obama, whose remedies he said were working. He said the Republican campaign argument is "pretty simple: 'We left him a total mess, he hasn't cleaned it up yet, so fire him and put us back in.'"[/quote]
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obama's speech was decent.
I like how he focused on domestic jobs.
Either way, it's always best to research both candidates on your own and not just go by their own words.
I just don't like how fucking actresses can pay to speak at the convention. In reality they are probably doing for publicity not because they give a damn about politics. I would get those who genuinely help promote the democratic side to people
the entire fucking democratic convention eviscerated republican, it wasn't even a contest, it was an absolute verbal slaughter
The President has to win the nomination to be re-elected? I thought they automatically got nominated so they could run for a second term if they wanted to.
If there was one thing I learned in these two days.. it is that I should vote for Bill Clinton for president.
[QUOTE=Onyx3173;37572860]The President has to win the nomination to be re-elected? I thought they automatically got nominated so they could run for a second term if they wanted to.[/QUOTE]
implying there was ever a chance that obama wouldn't be nominated.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;37572882]implying there was ever a chance that obama wouldn't be nominated.[/QUOTE]
I either was taught wrong or am remembering wrong. I honestly thought it was an automatic thing.
Has there ever been an occurrence where a President did not win a nomination from their party to run a 2nd term?
[QUOTE=Onyx3173;37572860]The President has to win the nomination to be re-elected? I thought they automatically got nominated so they could run for a second term if they wanted to.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but incumbents are essentially guaranteed to win. The last time an incumbent was seriously challenged was during the 1980 Democratic primaries when Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts carried 12 states while running against President Jimmy Carter.
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;37572834]I just don't like how fucking actresses can pay to speak at the convention. In reality they are probably doing for publicity not because they give a damn about politics. I would get those who genuinely help promote the democratic side to people[/QUOTE]
I hope you're not talking about Scarlett Johanson because she's fine as heck.
[QUOTE=gonedead0;37572903]Has there ever been an occurrence where a President did not win a nomination from their party to run a 2nd term?[/QUOTE]
Nope, just close. See above post.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;37572906]Yeah but incumbents are essentially guaranteed to win. The last time an incumbent was seriously challenged was during the 1980 Democratic primaries when Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts carried 12 states while running against President Jimmy Carter.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, thank you for clarifying that.
No way, I was expecting Vermin Supreme to take the nomination!
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];37573029']No way, I was expecting Vermin Supreme to take the nomination![/QUOTE]
He was running in the New Hampshire [I]republican[/I] primaries
[editline]7th September 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=DesolateGrun;37572834]I just don't like how fucking actresses can pay to speak at the convention. In reality they are probably doing for publicity not because they give a damn about politics. I would get those who genuinely help promote the democratic side to people[/QUOTE]
Bill Clinton nailed that
[QUOTE=prooboo;37573096]He was running in the New Hampshire [I]republican[/I] primaries
[editline]7th September 2012[/editline]
Bill Clinton nailed that[/QUOTE]
No he wasn't?
"Vermin Supreme is currently campaigning as a Democrat in the 2012 U.S. presidential election.[18][19] [20]"
"January 12, 2012: In the Democratic Primary in New Hampshire, Supreme received 833 votes. (Barack Obama won the primary with 49,080 votes)[27]"
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];37573119']No he wasn't?
"Vermin Supreme is currently campaigning as a Democrat in the 2012 U.S. presidential election.[18][19] [20]"
"January 12, 2012: In the Democratic Primary in New Hampshire, Supreme received 833 votes. (Barack Obama won the primary with 49,080 votes)[27]"[/QUOTE]
Well, cum on my face and call me Janet
If Romney wins. The country has gone full retard and you don't go full retard.
Also the convention was pretty good more transparent on what gonna happen compared to the RNC.
i found it great that biden's speech was better than obama's and had the best quote of the night
"We have no intention of downsizing the American dream"
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;37572849]the entire fucking democratic convention eviscerated republican, it wasn't even a contest, it was an absolute verbal slaughter[/QUOTE]
don't be foolish, you think that because you agree with them. that's the reason why we like it more.
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;37573394]i found it great that biden's speech was better than obama's and had the best quote of the night
"We have no intention of downsizing the American dream"
don't be foolish, you think that because you agree with them. that's the reason why we like it more.[/QUOTE]
I liked that quote, but I also liked...
"All they have to offer is the same prescriptions they've had for the last thirty years: Have a surplus? Try a tax cut. Deficit too high? Try another. Feel a cold coming on? Take two tax cuts, roll back some regulations, and call us in the morning!"
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;37573394]
don't be foolish, you think that because you agree with them. that's the reason why we like it more.[/QUOTE]
have you listened to the RNC speeches, they're generic obama sucks and lower taxes while DNC speeches were dissection of every argument republicans made while giving snarky comments that made them look stupid
why dont you stop being foolish?
I wonder what would happen next if he declined it.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;37573653]I wonder what would happen next if he declined it.[/QUOTE]
Shitstorm of the century. Although I wouldn't blame him given how detrimental the presidency is to one's health and sanity.
[QUOTE=prooboo;37573096]He was running in the New Hampshire [I]republican[/I] primaries[/QUOTE]
Well, he IS crazy after all.
I really enjoyed John Kerry's speech.
[quote]"Let's ask Osama Bin Laden if he's better off than he was four years ago."[/quote]
at this point i'm almost scared as to who will win
it's so close, i know obama is the better choice but i'm afraid there might be enough for romney
My favorite quote of the night was "We who believe government can be a force for good should be the ones most critical of it". It wasn't exactly that wording, but it was that idea. It's good to see that Obama is willing to cut aspects of the government as well as add to it. It'll definitely help him if he gets re-elected.
Also, the jab at Romney for his foreign policy was kinda funny. A little concerning because of the truth in there, but funny as well.
This is going to be a true battle to come; 2 months until either Obama gets his second term or Romney lays the foundations for his inquisition.
Also, this may sounds like insanity, but what would happen if instead of having either a Democrat or Republican president, two presidential candidates share "the throne"? Personally, i'd think nothing would get done; Romney would filibuster everything Obama tries to fix, and Obama would veto Romney's plans for inquisitors to carry handheld painwave beams for incapacitating and torturing "heretics".
[QUOTE=ironman17;37577183]Also, this may sounds like insanity, but what would happen if instead of having either a Democrat or Republican president, two presidential candidates share "the throne"? Personally, i'd think nothing would get done; Romney would filibuster everything Obama tries to fix, and Obama would veto Romney's plans for inquisitors to carry handheld painwave beams for incapacitating and torturing "heretics".[/QUOTE]
Interestingly, that's exactly what the Spartans did to stop any sort of reforms or changes. They have two kings.
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