• Obama agrees with Argentina on the Falkland islands.
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[quote]President Obama was effusive in his praise for the Special Relationship when he visited London recently, but his administration continues to slap Britain in the face over the highly sensitive Falklands issue. Washington signed on to a “draft declaration on the question of the Malvinas Islands” passed by unanimous consent by the General Assembly of the Organisation of American States (OAS) at its meeting in San Salvador yesterday, an issue which had been heavily pushed by Argentina. In doing so, the United States sided not only with Buenos Aires, but also with a number of anti-American regimes including Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and Daniel Ortega’s Nicaragua. The declaration calls for Argentina and Great Britain to enter into negotiations over the sovereignty of the Falklands, a position which London has long viewed as completely unacceptable. It also comes in the wake of increasing aggression by the Kirchner regime in the past 18 months, including threats to blockade British shipping in the South Atlantic. The OAS declaration, adopted at the fourth plenary session on June 7, states: It has not yet been possible to resume the negotiations between the two countries with a view to solving the sovereignty dispute over the Malvinas Islands, South Georgias and South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding maritime areas in the framework of resolutions 2065 (XX), 3160 (XXVIII), 31/49, 37/9, 38/12, 39/6, 40/21, 41/40, 42/19 and 43/25 of the United Nations General Assembly, the decisions adopted by the same body on the same question in the Special Committee on Decolonization, and the reiterated resolutions and declarations adopted at this General Assembly; and HAVING HEARD the presentation by the head of delegation of the Argentine Republic, WELCOMES the reaffirmation of the will of the Argentine Government to continue exploring all possible avenues towards a peaceful settlement of the dispute and its constructive approach towards the inhabitants of the Malvinas Islands. REAFFIRMS the need for the Governments of the Argentine Republic and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland to resume, as soon as possible, negotiations on the sovereignty dispute, in order to find a peaceful solution to this protracted controversy. DECIDES to continue to examine the Question of the Malvinas Islands at its subsequent sessions until a definitive settlement has been reached thereon. Washington backed a similar resolution in June last year, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton made it clear in a joint press conference with Cristina Kirchner in Buenos Aires in March 2010 that the Obama administration fully backs Argentina’s calls for negotiations over the Falkands, handing her Argentine counterpart a significant propaganda coup. The State Department has also insultingly referred to the Islands in the past as the Malvinas, the Argentine name for them. It is hugely disappointing that the Obama administration has chosen once again to side not only with the increasingly authoritarian regime in Argentina, but also with an array of despots in Latin America against British interests. Mrs Clinton should be reminded that 255 brave British servicemen laid down their lives in 1982 for the freedom of the Falkland Islanders, who are overwhelmingly British, following the brutal Argentine invasion. The sovereignty of the Islands is not a matter for negotiation, and Britain will never give in to threats from Argentina or its tyrannical allies in places such as Venezuela. The White House recently declared that Britain remains America’s most important ally. Now it should live up to its words by supporting Washington’s closest friend and partner on matters of vital British interest, including the future of British subjects living in the South Atlantic, whose only wish is to remain free under the protection of the Union Jack. As Margaret Thatcher famously reminded the world, in an address to the House of Commons after the Argentine invasion in April 1982, the Falklands are, and always will remain British: The people of the Falkland Islands, like the people of the United Kingdom, are an island race. Their way of life is British; their allegiance is to the Crown. They are few in number, but they have the right to live in peace, to choose their own way of life and to determine their own allegiance. It is the wish of the British people and the duty of Her Majesty’s Government to do everything that we can to uphold that right. That will be our hope and our Endeavour and, I believe, the resolve of every Member of the House.[/quote] [url]http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100091346/another-slap-in-the-face-for-britain-the-obama-administration-sides-with-argentina-and-venezuela-in-oas-declaration-on-the-falklands/[/url]
Dunno why the UK cares so much about a crappy island off the southern tip of Argentina. Given it's proximity to Argentina, I'm going to have to say that Argentina should have it.
i was under the impression that the people of the falklands want to stay part of the UK though
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30622772]Dunno why the UK cares so much about a crappy island off the southern tip of Argentina. Given it's proximity to Argentina, I'm going to have to say that Argentina should have it.[/QUOTE] But the people don't want to be part of Argentina.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30622772]Dunno why the UK cares so much about a crappy island off the southern tip of Argentina. Given it's proximity to Argentina, I'm going to have to say that Argentina should have it.[/QUOTE] There's oil there. Britain's not going to give up some prime natural resource real estate that easily.
Slightly misleading title. Obama backs negotiations over the islands, not giving the islands to Argentina outright. This article calls for him to 'tell dem damn argies to screw off' like some god damn school bully that should protect us. I thought the Telegraph was better than this kind of bullshit. Of course they want to stay part of the UK - they speak English and have English culture. While I agree that we got the islands in a.. rather unfair way, if I recall, we can't extract a group of natives off there now after all this time. However, since questions of it's natural resources could bring about another costly war, I think it's only fair that we welcome Argentinean companies unhindered access to compete it the same market once resource extraction is underway.
England should have it
The Falkland Islanders get the final say who they want to be a part of.
I would had looked pretty bad if the UK just gave it away after the political debate between the nations. Not to mention it was under UK rule and got invaded. They got what they deserved.
Argentina was a fascist dictatorship, I would not want to be part of a unstable south american country.
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;30623039]England should have it[/QUOTE] Meh, suited Thacher in the 80's after we tried to palm it off to Argentina in the 60's. Something needs to be done about this to end the matter.
Couldn't care less about that rock, really.
Well it belonged to England then it got invaded, and the people there want to be part of England so in my opinion it should go to England.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;30622772]Dunno why the UK cares so much about a crappy island off the southern tip of Argentina. Given it's proximity to Argentina, I'm going to have to say that Argentina should have it.[/QUOTE] It's close to Antarctica, which people think has a lot of natural resources. Antarctica once was connected to south-Africa and do you know what they find in south-Africa? Diamonds, that's what. You can imagine that a lot of countries want to have a piece of that and you're more likely to get a piece if you're up close. Maybe that's why Obama agrees with Argentina too. Politics are dirty.
Pretty sure the island is not located in their territorial waters, its a good 500miles from the nearest Argentine coastline, and what with the populace deciding that they would be rather be ruled by the UK, it is an already settled debate.
The people who live there are British and they follow British laws and traditions. Therefore it should just remain British. This is coming from an Argentinian. This is conflict is the first thing you learn about in History in Argentina btw.
“Oh, we need the Falkland Islands... for strategic sheep purposes!"
The US is being damn hypocritical about this too Americans, the people who were British and didn't want to be, who practically worshiped the ideals of liberty and freedom and the right to choose for themselves, are denying the right of Britons in the Falkland isles the right to choose for [B]THEM[/B]selves, the right to choose whether they will be British or not. Fuck Obama and his tyrannical hypocrisy
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;30626605]The US is being damn hypocritical about this too Americans, the people who were British and didn't want to be, who practically worshiped the ideals of liberty and freedom and the right to choose for themselves, are denying the right of Britons in the Falkland isles the right to choose for [B]THEM[/B]selves, the right to choose whether they will be British or not. Fuck Obama and his tyrannical hypocrisy[/QUOTE] Internet and about 400 years has made people much more... opinionated... if you know what I'm saying. [img]http://southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com/shared/sps/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/season_15/sp_1504_clip10.jpg?width=480[/img]
[QUOTE=slamex;30626701]Internet and about 400 years has made people much more... opinionated... if you know what I'm saying. [img]http://southparkstudios-intl.mtvnimages.com/shared/sps/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/season_15/sp_1504_clip10.jpg?width=480[/img][/QUOTE] Well that's still no reason to turn your back to the purest of American ideals, you know, being the president of America
[QUOTE=Sir Tristan;30626747]Well that's still no reason to turn your back to the purest of American ideals, you know, being the president of America[/QUOTE] Who needs pure american ideals when you got the people's vote?
Give the more sparsely populated Eastern Falkland Island to Argentina and let the UK keep the Western Falkland Island where most of the people live. Then everyone are happy!
The people want to be British, and there is oil. Not a fucking way in hell Britain is going to give it up (and that's good).
[QUOTE=zombojoe;30626251]The people who live there are British and they follow British laws and traditions. Therefore it should just remain British. This is coming from an Argentinian. This is conflict is the first thing you learn about in History in Argentina btw.[/QUOTE] Wait, your nationality icon says you're Canadian, though. I guess you're Argentinian but then moved up to Canada when you were young. Regardless of this minor confuzzlement, you've got a point there.
You guys realize all he did was sign something asking for negotiations? You know, like, discussion instead of war? HURR DURR
fuck off obama a lot of british men died for that land its [B]OURS[/B]
Why are they backing Argentina? They where the ones that started the Falklands conflict for one thing and I'm pretty sure that we can do a better job Governing the islands than a developing country, which is probably why the inhabitants want to remain under British sovereignty. Well as far as I know anyway.
[QUOTE=TheLaw;30625253]Couldn't care less about that rock, really.[/QUOTE] Me neither, actually... I'm always under the impression we wouldn't know what to do with them if we had them. Our government just loves to bitch at England every year about it, though.
Reminds me of the front cover of a magazine that I saw in a history book from the time of the Falklands War: [IMG]http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t148/empiresafaris/449px-The_empire_strikes_back_newsw.jpg?t=1307969138[/IMG] The Falklands should stay British since the majority of the islands want it that way. It's the same story as Northern Ireland.
Argentina's just butt hurt they didn't get to have an empire like ours.
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