• Estimated 20,000+ foreigners have flocked to DAESH to fight, 3,400 from western nations (mostly Fran
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[quote]More than 20,000 foreigners have flocked to fight for ISIS, the radical Sunni group that controls portions of Iraq and Syria. They hail from 90 countries, and an estimated 3,400 fighters come from Western states, according to Nicholas Rasmussen, director of the National Counterterrorism Center. Those are the numbers -- estimates, of course. But who is actually going? What are their names? What do they look like, where are they from and -- perhaps most importantly -- why are they going? These are some of the individuals we know have traveled or tried to join ISIS. [quote][B]United States[/B] National Intelligence Director James Clapper says 180 Americans have tried to go to fight in Syria. It's unclear how many of those were attempting to join ISIS. We don't know the identity of any Americans who have successfully made it to ISIS-controlled lands, but we do know the identities of a handful of people who have been accused of trying.[/quote] [quote][B]Canada[/B] Canada's intelligence agency estimated in 2014 that more than 130 of its citizens had traveled to the region to join ISIS. Damian Clairmont was killed fighting in Aleppo last year. His mother, Christianne Boudreau, told CNN that Clairmont converted to Islam after high school and was gradually recruited by the group.[/quote] [quote][B]France[/B] Perhaps the most well-known French national who is presumed to be in Syria is Hayat Boumeddiene, the widow of Amedy Coulibaly, the man who killed four people in a Paris kosher market in January. An ISIS propaganda magazine says Boumeddiene safely reached the Islamic State, the name the group calls itself, but offered no proof. Boumeddiene is believed to have disappeared into Syria before the attack. Of the other roughly 1,200 French fighters who have joined ISIS, French authorities have so far only named one man.[/quote] [quote][B]UK[/B] About 600 UK nationals are believed to have gone to Iraq and Syria, according to research groups. Among them: -- A man who has been dubbed Jihadi John, the black-clad, masked militant who has appeared in the majority of ISIS' beheading videos. He was identified Thursday as Mohammed Emwazi, believed to be from west London, the Reuters news agency reported, citing The Washington Post and the BBC. One of Emwazi's close friends disclosed his name to the Post, that newspaper reported. London's Metropolitan Police declined to confirm the reported identity.[/quote] [quote][B]Australia[/B] Australia, where a number of individuals have been charged with terror offenses in recent months, has seen more than 50 of its nationals travel to the region to become ISIS fighters. But the case that perhaps stands out most prominently is that of Khaled Sharrouf. "That's my boy," he wrote on Twitter this past summer -- posted alongside a photo of his 7-year-old son holding up a man's severed head.[/quote] [quote][B]Germany[/B] Author, journalist and former German politician Jürgen Todenhöfer traveled to ISIS-controlled Syria and Iraq in December. He spoke with CNN's Frederik Pleitgen and shared video of a conversation he had with a German ISIS militant, one of an estimated 600 from the country. Todenhöfer spoke with the man over Skype for months. "He says what they want him to say," Todenhöfer said. "He is sure that he is on the right way."[/quote][/quote] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/25/world/isis-western-recruits/index.html[/url]
Fucking Morons.
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
Note that ~3400 ( probably a chunk of them being dead already) is a minority within the easily 60,000+ conservative estimate. I think the whole foreign fighter thing is a[I] little [/I]overblown.
Americans trying to join ISIS, what the fuck 130 canadians
[QUOTE=J!NX;47222185]Americans trying to join ISIS, what the fuck 130 canadians[/QUOTE] There are also people going to join militias that are fighting [I]against[/I] Daesh as well, the article even states that they're not even sure that the 180 or so Americans they stopped were going explicitly to join Daesh.
The video in the source is very powerful [editline]26th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Aman;47222169]Note that ~3400 ( probably a chunk of them being dead already) is a minority within the easily 60,000+ conservative estimate. I think the whole foreign fighter thing is a[I] little [/I]overblown.[/QUOTE] Well, western fighters, I have no doubt there's thousands pouring in from Africa, the other middle east states, but the idea of westerners, educated and aware they are going into a direct conflict against their home country is just so enormously unfathomable that they stick out the most
[QUOTE=Aman;47222169]Note that ~3400 ( probably a chunk of them being dead already) is a minority within the easily 60,000+ conservative estimate. I think the whole foreign fighter thing is a[I] little [/I]overblown.[/QUOTE] I find your last statement kind of ironic because DAESH likes to use foreign fighters as suicide bombers in their attacks - [url=http://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/ISWBackgrounder_ISIS_Annual_Reports_0.pdf]Page 3[/url]
My sister is a recent convert to Islam after marrying an old co-worker who practices the religion. About this time last year (at work) they were confronted by federal investigators and were separated for interrogation. It turns out that the guy had some close friends that were planning on travelling overseas from Austin, TX with the intention to fight in Syria. It was really wild to hear my sister explain that they had been following her and her husband around for a while, showing her pictures of them at different locations.
[quote]"That's my boy," he wrote on Twitter this past summer -- posted alongside a photo of his 7-year-old son holding up a man's severed head.[/quote] what the fuck
Just curious, but would you be stopped if you travel there to fight for the Kurds or against ISIS?
Someone from my university went over to Syria to join DAESH over the summer and became a suicide bomber. I find this incredibly fucked up.
[QUOTE=Novangel;47222417]Just curious, but would you be stopped if you travel there to fight for the Kurds or against ISIS?[/QUOTE] None of the American veterans that are part of the 1st American Legion have been stopped.
Good, ISIS is conveniently moving all of the radicals into one place, and more importantly out of our countries.
[QUOTE=spiritlol;47222458]Good, ISIS is conveniently moving all of the radicals into one place, and more importantly out of our countries.[/QUOTE] kill two thousand birds with one bomb.
I wonder if it's possible to have people join ISIS and take it down from the inside. I'm sure it's tough to do, but maybe if there are a lot of people joining, then there might be chance to have agents join to gain their trust and then have the military come knocking at key points.
[QUOTE=Xion12;47222604]I wonder if it's possible to have people join ISIS and take it down from the inside. I'm sure it's tough to do, but maybe if there are a lot of people joining, then there might be chance to have agents join to gain their trust and then have the military come knocking at key points.[/QUOTE]Intelligence services are almost certainly already doing that right now, might as well just let them handle it.
Wonder why Sweden is not on that list, SÄPO has some numbers on it.
[QUOTE=Rust666;47223543]Wonder why Sweden is not on that list, SÄPO has some numbers on it.[/QUOTE] because it's the top 10 countries
[QUOTE=Hugg;47223640]because it's the top 10 countries[/QUOTE] Sweden does have one of the highest foreign fighters per capita in western countries though, as far as I know only Belgium has higher numbers in that regard. [url]http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographics/foreign-fighters-syria-iraq-is-isis-isil-infographic/26584940.html[/url]
Many people from Birmingham have gone to join IS and some have return and been immediately arrested. I'm glad they are on top of it, I don't want to pass one of these fuckers in the street.
Sounds like a nightmare tracking hundreds of millions of people in different countries, checking who is converting to radical islam and tracking them in person and their electronic communications if they do. All this tracking going on must be proof that there are facial recognition systems in place in public and the whole NSA style automatic online monitoring thing is actually being put to use.
Makes for a target rich environment
[QUOTE=Roll_Program;47224267]Sounds like a nightmare tracking hundreds of millions of people in different countries, checking who is converting to radical islam and tracking them in person and their electronic communications if they do. All this tracking going on must be proof that there are facial recognition systems in place in public and the whole NSA style automatic online monitoring thing is actually being put to use.[/QUOTE] Not to mention USA creates ISIS.
Not surprising that they come from France honestly.
I would totally join the Kurds as a logistics officer.
[QUOTE=Aman;47222169]Note that ~3400 ( probably a chunk of them being dead already) is a minority within the easily 60,000+ conservative estimate. I think the whole foreign fighter thing is a[I] little [/I]overblown.[/QUOTE] Why? That's how the insurgency in Iraq lasted a decade. People flocking in from all manner of surrounding countries for the chance to kill civilians.
Eh they pay well
[QUOTE=Cutthecrap;47224571]I would totally join the Kurds as a logistics officer.[/QUOTE] Go ahead, they're probably recruiting foreigners with logistic skills as private contractors.
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;47224625]Eh they pay well[/QUOTE] how much kebabs
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