Governor Jindal of Louisiana says GOP must stop being "Stupid Party" - Polidicks

[QUOTE]CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal called on the Republican Party to "stop being the stupid party" on Thursday as GOP leaders promised fundamental changes to help stave off future losses. In the keynote address at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting, Jindal said the GOP doesn't need to change its values but "might need to change just about everything else we are doing." "We've got to stop being the stupid party. It's time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults," he said. "We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I'm here to say we've had enough of that." Jindal, thought to be a potential 2016 presidential contender, offered little detail in the 25-minute address. He called on conservatives to shift their focus from Capitol Hill number crunching to "the place where conservatism thrives — in the real world beyond the Washington Beltway." Hours before the speech, Republican leaders promised to release in March a report, dubbed the "Growth and Opportunity Project," outlining recommendations on party rules and messaging designed to appeal to a rapidly changing American electorate. President Barack Obama's November victory was fueled, in part, by overwhelming support from the nation's Hispanic, Asian and African-American communities. "Losing is not fun. We want to win," said GOP strategist Sally Bradshaw, who is among five people appointed by RNC Chairman Reince Priebus to craft the report. "I think you're going to see a very renewed, aggressive effort by this party to put on a different face," Bradshaw said. "We are going to go into areas that we do not go into and see folks that we do not see." Republicans presidential nominee Mitt Romney struggled last fall to win over women and minorities, who overwhelmingly favored President Barack Obama's re-election bid. GOP officials conceded this week that they must change their tone and message, if not their policies, if they hope to expand their appeal in the coming years. Romney alienated many Hispanic voters by highlighting his support for a fence along the Mexican border and "self-deportation" of illegal immigrants. Down-ticket Republican candidates alienated female voters by backing new abortion laws in a handful of swing states like Virginia and New Hampshire, while Senate candidate Todd Akin of Missouri hurt himself and his party by declaring that women's bodies could prevent pregnancy in cases of "legitimate rape." GOP strategist Ari Fleischer suggested that his party could learn an important lesson from Democrats on messaging: "Republicans talk policy and Democrats talk people. Republicans can learn a little bit from Democrats on how to make those people connections with our policies." Asked whether he was considering a presidential bid in 2016, Jindal brushed aside the question. "Any Republican that's thinking about talking about running for president in 2016 needs to get his head examined," he said. "We've got a lot of work to do." He called on conservatives to stop fighting with Democrats on their terms about the size of government in Washington and focus instead on connecting with voters across the nation. "Today's conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget, the burgeoning deficits, the mammoth federal debt, the shortfall in our entitlement programs," he said. "We seem to have an obsession with government bookkeeping. This is a rigged game, and it is the wrong game for us to play." Jindal's comments come a day after the House passed a bill to permit the government to borrow enough money to avoid a first-time default for at least four months, defusing a looming crisis setting up a springtime debate over taxes, spending and the deficit. The House passed the measure on a bipartisan basis as majority Republicans back away from their previous demand that any increase in the government's borrowing cap be paired with an equivalent level of spending cuts. The Louisiana governor's blunt remarks follow criticism from another high-profile Republican based outside Washington who publicly blasted GOP leadership on Capitol Hill: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie. One of the party's most popular voices, Christie earlier in the month criticized his party's `'toxic internal politics" after House Republicans initially declined to approve disaster relief for victims of Superstorm Sandy. He said it was `'disgusting to watch" their actions and he faulted the GOP's most powerful elected official, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., told reporters on the sidelines of the meeting Thursday that Republicans also need to develop a sound strategy for confronting the Obama administration, suggesting House Republicans could use hearings to expose waste and promote better ideas. "A lot of Republicans, frankly, spent the last two years saying, `Oh, gee, we don't have to do much because after Obama loses we'll work with the new Republican president.' Well, that world ain't there," Gingrich said. "So now they have to make adjustments. They've got to understand that this is a different game." [/QUOTE] Good to see there is still voices of reason inside the Republican Party. But unfortunately the TEA Party nuts still rule the roost. Source: [URL="http://www.charter.net/news/read.php?rip_id=<DA40U5T02%40news.ap.org>&ps=1011&page=1"]http://www.charter.net/news/read.php?rip_id=&ps=1011&page=1[/URL]

No not really. Jindal is one of the worst governors Louisiana has had. That is saying a lot. [url]http://news.yahoo.com/louisiana-governor-jindal-proposes-ending-state-income-tax-015120687--business.html[/url] He wants to end income taxes and corporate income taxes, but that means sales taxes are gonna get high. Food is going to get real expensive on a weekly basis. Then there's the voucher school debacle. And then our state being bottom of the barrel in fucking everything.

The sad part is around where I live there are so many people who think the GOP is the only hope for America, all because their parents say and they are middle class whites who think Obama hates them

[quote]Jindal, thought to be a potential 2016 presidential contender[/quote] The day that man becomes President is the day the US falls to complete and utter shit.

Ask anyone slightly associated with Louisiana and you'll learn that Jindal is utter shit

[QUOTE=The Baconator;39350417]The sad part is around where I live there are so many people who think the GOP is the only hope for America, all because their parents say and they are middle class whites who think Obama hates them[/QUOTE] so my parents? both of my parents were actually wished obama was shot during his address this past week or so at his inauguration. [editline]25th January 2013[/editline] also OP remove some of the article and post the link before youre banned.

I registered as a republican because I align with the party's core values more then the democrats, but I've become so disenfranchised with politics and our elected leadership that I really don't know what I am anymore.

hilarious coming from jindal, a known fuck-up republican

[QUOTE=Lt_C;39350861]I registered as a republican because I align with the party's core values more then the democrats, but I've become so disenfranchised with politics and our elected leadership that I really don't know what I am anymore.[/QUOTE] Same here, mate. I left the party back in ot '11, and tend to vote depending on who seems to know the most about what they're talking about, whoever I agree with, or whoever spews the least bullshit out of his mouth.

I don't align myself with the republican party's core values at all. Smaller government, high defense and military spending, family and [i]religious[/I] values (think Reagan election), lower or sustained taxing of the upper class... I don't really see myself supporting any of those things.

[QUOTE=N-12_Aden;39350403]No not really. Jindal is one of the worst governors Louisiana has had. That is saying a lot. [url]http://news.yahoo.com/louisiana-governor-jindal-proposes-ending-state-income-tax-015120687--business.html[/url] He wants to end income taxes and corporate income taxes, but that means sales taxes are gonna get high. Food is going to get real expensive on a weekly basis. Then there's the voucher school debacle. And then our state being bottom of the barrel in fucking everything.[/QUOTE] well ending corporate taxes might actually lower the cost of living in some ways, though not food, since that is subsidized as shit already. corporate taxes often correlate with higher costs for products, since corporations often don't give a shit and will raise prices if they have a heavier tax burden. but that also means a decrease in revenue for the government, which means less flexibility with social services. that can also raise the cost of living.

Well FYI Republicans are one of the major forces opposing the AWB They're not as stupid as you, Jindal

[QUOTE] GOP must stop being "Stupid Party"[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]"the place where conservatism thrives"[/QUOTE] Those two are mutually inclusive. Humanity is progressing at a faster rate then ever, so having a party that's literally acting as a road block is mind boggling stupid. [QUOTE=BFG9000;39351229]Well FYI Republicans are one of the major forces opposing the AWB They're not as stupid as you, Jindal[/QUOTE] Yet they still oppose gay marriage and proper nationalized health care. So opposing AWB does nothing to improve their rep, unless your priorities are wack

[QUOTE=Van-man;39351253]Those two are mutually inclusive. Humanity is progressing at a faster rate then ever, so having a party that's literally acting as a road block is mind boggling stupid. Yet they still oppose gay marriage and proper nationalized health care. So opposing AWB does nothing to improve their rep, unless your priorities are wack[/QUOTE] So you're saying socialist healthcare reform is more important than the AWB right (I honestly don't care) And also, what if I was pro gun control? The AWB would be a higher priority to me since I blindly think it will "save lives". And since I'm anti gun control, the AWB is a pretty high priorty to me because its a feelgood bill that doesn't do much beyonds take liberties from the American people. Point being, who are you to decide which priorities I should have?

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39354246]So you're saying socialist healthcare reform is more important than the AWB right (I honestly don't care) And also, what if I was pro gun control? The AWB would be a higher priority to me since I blindly think it will "save lives". And since I'm anti gun control, the AWB is a pretty high priorty to me because its a feelgood bill that doesn't do much beyonds take liberties from the American people. Point being, who are you to decide which priorities I should have?[/QUOTE] Because thinking about improving the living standards for everyone in general, instead of catering to the borderline fetish of some gun nuts isn't good??

[QUOTE=Van-man;39356199]Because thinking about improving the living standards for everyone in general, instead of catering to the borderline fetish of some gun nuts isn't good??[/QUOTE] Living standards are extremely high here and in most other first world countries, even the least fortunate are more fortunate than people in many poor or conflict regions like somalia or syria, respectively IMO we shouldnt be worried about giving our general public more; they need to appreciate what they have. And for all you who rated me dumb, sorry, but I disagree with you.

[QUOTE=Van-man;39351253]Those two are mutually inclusive. Humanity is progressing at a faster rate then ever, so having a party that's literally acting as a road block is mind boggling stupid. Yet they still oppose gay marriage and proper nationalized health care. So opposing AWB does nothing to improve their rep, unless your priorities are wack[/QUOTE] There's a difference between being a fiscal conservative, and being a dumbass who doesn't want to change anything. You can be a liberal who blocks things that actually progress society. I consider myself more on the conservative side of things, but I realize that shit's kinda fucked up right now, and we need to find something that'll fix it. That's what being progressive is about. Liberal and conservative are just two different ideologies on how to fix it, but unfortunately the word "Conservative" is more associated with being a religious bigoted fucking stick in the mud than it is with right wing economic values.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39356985]Living standards are extremely high here and in most other first world countries, even the least fortunate are more fortunate than people in many poor or conflict regions like somalia or syria, respectively IMO we shouldnt be worried about giving our general public more; they need to appreciate what they have. And for all you who rated me dumb, sorry, but I disagree with you.[/QUOTE] "We shouldn't strive to better society while other people are worse off" If we always followed this rule civilisation wouldn't have gotten anywhere Anyway, it's not like the US gov would be sending the money that would've otherwise been spent on improved health care to these countries instead

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39354246]So you're saying socialist healthcare reform is more important than the AWB [/QUOTE] yes, massively people's right to easy access to healthcare is vastly more important than a few people's hobby.

[QUOTE=CatFodder;39357539]yes, massively people's right to easy access to healthcare is vastly more important than a few people's hobby.[/QUOTE] Its not a right, its a privilege. And while I do think that the system could use some tweaking, I don't think we really need to get the government involved in it. Besides, all that money we COULD be using on social issues is going towards gun control Gj america

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39357882]Its not a right, its a privilege. And while I do think that the system could use some tweaking, I don't think we really need to get the government involved in it. Besides, all that money we COULD be using on social issues is going towards gun control Gj america[/QUOTE] Well i guess living is a privilege. You heard it hear folks.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;39358511]Well i guess living is a privilege. You heard it hear folks.[/QUOTE] Wow; such a sense of entitlement... While healthcare is pretty essential to our life, there are many less fortunate people who do without it. Healthcare =\= living.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39360093]Wow; such a sense of entitlement... While healthcare is pretty essential to our life, there are many less fortunate people who do without it. Healthcare =\= living.[/QUOTE] so youre saying since we were apparently fine before without it (which is disgustingly selfish and terrible of you to say) we dont need it now. [editline]25th January 2013[/editline] its not a sense of entitlement, its a basic human need.

it's not a basic human need. You don't NEED it to survive (unless of course you were born with some condition or your life came under threat some how) And I'm not saying we were fine before it and we don't need it, I'm saying we already have good healthcare and we should appreciate it.

[QUOTE=zzzz;39351004]I don't align myself with the republican party's core values at all.[/QUOTE] The republican party has no core values anymore. [QUOTE=zzzz;39351004]Smaller government, high defense and military spending[/QUOTE] yeah who needs the military, who needs protection from agressive nations, nations never attack eachother, when has that ever happend [QUOTE=zzzz;39351004]family and [I]religious[/I] values (think Reagan election)[/QUOTE] a functional family is a terrible thing to have, family values never helped anyone [QUOTE=zzzz;39351004]lower or sustained taxing of the upper class...[/QUOTE] The wealthier paid more taxes than the lower class and the middle class under the Bush tax cuts, and they still do today. The top 1% is responsible for ~52% of the tax revanue generated. [QUOTE=zzzz;39351004]I don't really see myself supporting any of those things.[/QUOTE] i agree the government running everything about my life is the best way to live, who needs free choice when the government can decide everything for us

[QUOTE=UziXxX;39360340]The republican party has no core values anymore. [B]Bullshit[/B] yeah who needs the military, who needs protection from agressive nations, nations never attack eachother, when has that ever happend [B]Are you unaware how bloated the military budget is or will you just forget about that for your "argument"[/B] a functional family is a terrible thing to have, family values never helped anyone [B]"Family values" the fuck does that mean? It sure as shit does not mean equality[/B] The wealthier paid more taxes than the lower class and the middle class under the Bush tax cuts, and they still do today. The top 1% is responsible for ~52% of the tax revanue generated. [B]As they should. Their wealth is not 100% their doing so why should they enjoy that benefit? They'd never have that wealth without us, or the society to gain that wealth[/B] i agree the government running everything about my life is the best way to live, who needs free choice when the government can decide everything for us[/QUOTE] Sarcasm doesn't suit you, you suck at it

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39360307]it's not a basic human need. You don't NEED it to survive (unless of course you were born with some condition or your life came under threat some how) And I'm not saying we were fine before it and we don't need it, I'm saying we already have good healthcare and we should appreciate it.[/QUOTE] lol our healthcare is good. thats why its much cheaper in other countries and overall better.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;39361636]lol our healthcare is good. thats why its much cheaper in other countries and overall better.[/QUOTE] Yes its pretty good You're much less likely to die from AIDS here than in Uganda, that's for sure.

I dunno, I'm strongly against the AWB but I consider equality for gays and such to be a more important issue. Even though the AWB affects me more directly, I have to support the democratic party first. It's frustrating.

[QUOTE=BFG9000;39360307]it's not a basic human need. You don't NEED it to survive (unless of course you were born with some condition or your life came under threat some how) And I'm not saying we were fine before it and we don't need it, I'm saying we already have good healthcare and we should appreciate it.[/QUOTE] If you call the US healthcare system good or fair in any way then you're either delusional or a massive idiot. Thank you.