hey guys!!!
after a rough 8 months of editing, me and my pals have finally finished our movie.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhEsNB22rZ0&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z12ttlj4dvf2wxkjf04chtqrfrvdcd1zyag"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhEsNB22rZ0&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z12ttlj4dvf2wxkjf04chtqrfrvdcd1zyag[/URL]
sooo heres the deal. if you have rude comments please keep them to yourself as we spent a lot of time on this movie. our biggest dreams that we all mutually share is to be the next big youtuber, dare I say as big as (Pewdiepie).
basically what I need from you guys is tips and a solid review to help us understand our weak areas and what we need to work on to make better quality videos. (better editing softwares, acting tips, etc.)
anyways thank you all! :)
[editline]24th November 2016[/editline]
also im somewhat new to FP the community seems amazing :)
Welcome to FP, but it is generally bad form to self-advertise if you're still new to the community, I'd suggest lurking around some more as well as posting more discretely before posting your own content.
In relation to the content, removing the watermark is the first major step.
it sreally good mangood job funny vid
[editline]24th November 2016[/editline]
good job
DJ Dong should do the score for this.
[QUOTE=LoneWolf_Recon;51419808]Welcome to FP, but it is generally bad form to self-advertise if you're still new to the community, I'd suggest lurking around some more as well as posting more discretely before posting your own content.
In relation to the content, removing the watermark is the first major step.[/QUOTE]
thanks :) we tried to remove the watermark but it wanted us to pay for the full version :/
Is this a shitpost
I can't form an opinion.
It's non existent budget tier, coupled with the non-existent plot is borderline experimental.
I think if you went with a budget of 1,000$ and worked it out a little better, you could get into the experimental tier and get people to watch it ironically.
[QUOTE=Binladen34;51419931]I can't form an opinion.
It's non existent budget tier, coupled with the non-existent plot is borderline experimental.
I think if you went with a budget of 1,000$ and worked it out a little better, you could get into the experimental tier and get people to watch it ironically.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the input! mostly everyone has been saying they can't follow the plot as well including family and friends. for the next installment we're going to have a higher budget, and we aren't targeting people to see this as something ironic or a parody, but rather of a more realistic drama series.
you forgot to activate your almonds
for what it seems like you guys are doing, its decent. its a silly video made with friends.
things i liked:
- Bass man
- theres passion involved in the movie. everyone seems to be having fun making the movie.
- theres some parts where i laughed, so thats coo
some things i noticed that you can fix from a technical standpoint:
1) [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HHFgGPe.png[/IMG]
get rid of that. should be obvious why
2) at 0:21 you cut too early, we hear "3, go" for the countdown for your take
3) The cuts you do have sound cutoff so every time you move to a new shot the sound in the background fades out and fades back in immediately, it kinda has a annoying feel after awhile and can prevent people from getting into the feel of your video. probably need to find a looping soundscape/song or something to try to hide it if you can't find a way to cancel out background noise. This is easily one of the biggest issues i have with the vid because it can't let me focus on what you guys made.
4) at 3:10, I can hear the guy on the phone in the background (at least, i think i do). make sure you have him farther away when he makes a call.
5) The gunshot sound at 4:09-4:11 is way too early
6) the garage scene at 5:46 has a echo. could barely hear what the chicken guy had to say. (i think you know this though, as at 11:24 you put subtitles for him in that scene)
7) at 9:04 to 9:12, you have two shots in a row saying the same thing. one shot is all we need to know allens a friend of his.
8) the aspect ratio of the shots keep changing. i dont know if you filmed on multiple cameras but the shot shrinks 10 minutes in.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/4aQXywn.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/6hdeMV5.png[/t]
9) 10:24, he says "Must be the base" but due to the fact hes aiming away from the mic when he says that its very muffled. I would either recommend getting a better mic for shooting stuff or in post-production/editing you can do a voice over of him saying that and editing it in.
Occasional Nitpicks of constructive crit:
1) buy a tripod or something. steady shots are good shots and it will make your videos look less like a fun home video a few friends made and more like a good looking fun ep.
2) i would recommend learning how to manual focus, train on that stuff. seems like you may be relying on auto-focus in the movie. Theres also some shots that are really blurry (2:24 being a example).
3) Figure out how to time edits better. theres either extra silences that don't need to be there, people talking over eachother, or off-timed sounds/effects. zoom up real close and try to cut it perfectly as even a few frames can easily ruin a scene.
4) too many hard cuts. try to find a way to seamlessly blend takes together. This is usually a thing to do when getting a good shot and in editing.
If you want to see good ways on how to make a film, check out the youtube channel "[URL="https://www.youtube.com/user/everyframeapainting"]Every frame a painting[/URL]", where the youtuber breaks down what makes films so great to watch and try to apply those ideas to your films.
Alfred Hitchcock is also a good person to look at for tips and tricks, hes a guy who defined alot of classic cinema. [url]https://www.indiefilmhustle.com/alfred-hitchcock-master-class/[/url]
tl;dr: lrn 2 edit and cinematography, theres obvious fun passion in the vid but it needs a bit more work if your planning on aiming to be the next big youtuber.
[QUOTE=Wii60;51419950]for what it seems like you guys are doing, its decent. its a silly video made with friends.
things i liked:
- Bass man
- theres passion involved in the movie. everyone seems to be having fun making the movie.
- theres some parts where i laughed, so thats coo
some things i noticed that you can fix from a technical standpoint:
1) [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/HHFgGPe.png[/IMG]
get rid of that. should be obvious why
2) at 0:21 you cut too early, we hear "3, go" for the countdown for your take
3) The cuts you do have sound cutoff so every time you move to a new shot the sound in the background fades out and fades back in immediately, it kinda has a annoying feel after awhile and can prevent people from getting into the feel of your video. probably need to find a looping soundscape/song or something to try to hide it if you can't find a way to cancel out background noise. This is easily one of the biggest issues i have with the vid because it can't let me focus on what you guys made.
4) at 3:10, I can hear the guy on the phone in the background (at least, i think i do). make sure you have him farther away when he makes a call.
5) The gunshot sound at 4:09-4:11 is way too early
6) the garage scene at 5:46 has a echo. could barely hear what the chicken guy had to say. (i think you know this though, as at 11:24 you put subtitles for him in that scene)
7) at 9:04 to 9:12, you have two shots in a row saying the same thing. one shot is all we need to know allens a friend of his.
8) the aspect ratio of the shots keep changing. i dont know if you filmed on multiple cameras but the shot shrinks 10 minutes in.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/4aQXywn.png[/t][t]http://i.imgur.com/6hdeMV5.png[/t]
9) 10:24, he says "Must be the base" but due to the fact hes aiming away from the mic when he says that its very muffled. I would either recommend getting a better mic for shooting stuff or in post-production/editing you can do a voice over of him saying that and editing it in.
Occasional Nitpicks of constructive crit:
1) buy a tripod or something. steady shots are good shots and it will make your videos look less like a fun home video a few friends made and more like a good looking fun ep.
2) i would recommend learning how to manual focus, train on that stuff. seems like you may be relying on auto-focus in the movie. Theres also some shots that are really blurry (2:24 being a example).
3) Figure out how to time edits better. theres either extra silences that don't need to be there, people talking over eachother, or off-timed sounds/effects. zoom up real close and try to cut it perfectly as even a few frames can easily ruin a scene.
4) too many hard cuts. try to find a way to seamlessly blend takes together. This is usually a thing to do when getting a good shot and in editing.
If you want to see good ways on how to make a film, check out the youtube channel "[URL="https://www.youtube.com/user/everyframeapainting"]Every frame a painting[/URL]", where the youtuber breaks down what makes films so great to watch and try to apply those ideas to your films.
Alfred Hitchcock is also a good person to look at for tips and tricks, hes a guy who defined alot of classic cinema. [url]https://www.indiefilmhustle.com/alfred-hitchcock-master-class/[/url]
tl;dr: lrn 2 edit and cinematography, theres obvious fun passion in the vid but it needs a bit more work if your planning on aiming to be the next big youtuber.[/QUOTE]
thanks! refreshing to see someone taking me seriously lol but i didnt expect too much! this was a really informational post and im glad you took the time to look through the video and catch our mistakes!
I'm just going to be straight with you. There's leagues wrong here and any basic film class, much less even just googling a bit will teach you so much that I couldn't condense it all here in one post. The best I can do is give you basic pointers and hope you have the drive to use google, practice and honestly, sign up for classes if you're serious about film. You guys are obviously young, maybe your high school(?) offers a film production class, take it if so.
Tripod - Unless you know 100% what you're doing and have a glidecam or other actual equipment, you should get a tripod and never make a shot without it unless you actually know what you're doing. My entire first year of film production we were literally never allowed to remove the camera from the tripod for a very good reason.
Manual focus - Auto focus is worthless. If you don't know how to use manual focus you have no place making films outside of home movies of your child before the age of 3-4 when you one day just stop doing so because seriously no one cares about your child that much except maybe you. So learn how to manually operate a camera, you won't succeed without it.
An actual editing program - seriously, even windows movie maker doesn't give you watermarks like that. If you're really interested in doing this kind of thing you're going to need to learn how to use actual software anyway. Go for Premiere, Final Cut, (Vegas if you REALLY have to, but god please don't eugh, Vegas is trash).
Learning an actual program will give you some experience with making good cuts too hopefully, which is another huge issue. The editing of a film can turn the shittiest footage into a decent film, and in reverse.
I assume by hard cuts the poster above me refers to jump cuts, I'll admit it now I stopped watching because I didn't need to keep watching to tell you exactly where you are and what you need to do.
A jump cut is when you put two shots from the same or very similar camera angle together in one scene. It often makes it look like you're "jumping through time". Don't do this.
Film entire scenes in one take and do it from multiple angles, this way you can cut to different shots and you don't actually have to worry so much about actors being shite and having those pauses before they actually do things. This also lets you have more footage to work from, which is literally going to save your life because you might find an entire shot is unusable and you'll have to piece the scene together from other shots. Or you might find all your supplemental shots are trash and you just end up doing an whole scene in one shot. Since you're not on deadlines like an actual film crew, you can do re-shoots way easier than I ever could dream of, so keep that in mind too.
learn about the 180 degree rule, apply it to all over the shoulder conversation scenes you do, learn other basic film rules, etc.
Storyboarding/Script Writing - this is important, your story is incomprehensible to people because you probably didn't write or draw anything out enough/properly. You can use stick figures, no artistic skill required, but drawing the layout of a shot is REALLY helpful for a billion different reasons. A script is the most amazing thing you could ever have. You don't even need professional programs for it:
[url]https://www.celtx.com/index.html[/url]
Celtx is a free website that has script writing on it and stuff. We were recommended to use it in first year since it's free. I personally use Final Draft because that's the program I learned to write scripts with, but Celtx works fine. I honestly had no idea what the hell I was watching even at the 2 minute mark. That's 1/6th of the way through the film. A 12 minute film should have given me some substance by now, I should know who the character is, I should have some investment in the character or story. I know that sounds weird because we're used to it being 2 hours long and 2 minutes being basically nothing in that sense, but this isn't 2 hours of film (thank god).
In the first minute or so I heard the person behind the camera say "ready go". etc, things like this boil back to editing and all the little fundamentals that you'll need.
As it stands I wouldn't say that you guys are hopeless or can't become big youtube stars. But here's the deal, you've got a very, very long way to go before you get anywhere. Current good youtubers are producing videos faster than you, better than you, and there's a good reason for that. They have education and/or experience that put them there, obviously. You guys are currently below high school film class students in quality. It takes years to get good at film making, I was a film student for 4 years, 2nd year of that at degree level. There's so much that goes into film that honestly your dreams are very ambitious at best. As a film student the first thing we're taught is that if you want to be in film at the blockbuster hollywood level you're going to be chasing a dream for many years if you're lucky and if you don't have the personal dedication you may as well quit while you're ahead because so many film makers never make it there, not because they're bad but because it's hard to get into the spotlight and make the right impressions and connections. There's a reason that there's an entire industry surrounding indie short films, and these people succeeding at that level are on youtube already too.
So what do I actually suggest? Don't kill the dream, kill the chase for exposure, because you're going to be told that this is shite. Because it is. It's 8 months of hard work that resulted in 12 minutes of amateur at best trash. And that's 120% okay and expected because it's your first films. My first high school films were fucking rubbish too. Everyone made shitty videos to begin with. The important thing is that you get back up and keep working at it, you have a lot to learn and you're not going to find positive information coming from casual viewers.
I honestly can't recommend any websites that have information about this stuff because everything I learned came from lectures and textbooks. I've done a tiny bit of googling though so here's a bit of stuff to help you out: Also feel free to PM me I guess so long as you've got specific questions. No I won't watch the other 8 minutes of video to give you an in depth review, you don't want that and I don't want to spend hours writing you a film analysis on a shot by shot basis, because it's not going to help you at this point in your education as a film amateur.
[url]http://home.utah.edu/~u0288525/videosite/filmbasics.html[/url]
[url]http://www.doddlenews.com/tag/cinematography-101/[/url]
[url]http://www.doddlenews.com/blogs/post-production/editing-101-basic-rules/[/url]
Where should you go from here? This is ultimately the most important thing I can offer you actually. Advice on how to proceed so you can actually achieve that dream. You need to start smaller. Yeah it's your dream to make this film, yaddah yaddah. Start smaller. Much smaller. As you come across rules and concepts in cinematography you're going to get your mates together and film one scene to illustrate that rule or concept. This is literally like 50% of a first year film student's year in practicals, exercises. See why I mentioned a proper education earlier? Doing it your self is the hard way, but without these concepts understood you're not going to make good films, basically ever.
In fact next time you consider making something longer than a few minutes, you're going to write a whole script out for it. Then you're going to have someone read that script and give you feedback. If they can't understand the script or it isn't interesting, you're not going to get those qualities in a film.
If your script is longer than 6 minutes or so, you're not making it. Shelve it for later. And if your story arc can't be done in one single video, stop right there for sure. Yeah that ad money coming in from part 1 and 2 makes you twice as much as just a full film, but seriously that's a bad practice right now. You need to focus on small arcs with full completion for now.
And no the fundamental exercises aren't interesting to viewers, you won't get views and youtube fame by being good at showcasing various kinds of cut techniques or how to use a boom mic. They don't give a shit that you understand colour, set design or how to set up proper lighting, or how to cast shadows and use exposure like in film noir. But they care that your film is good. And to make a good film you need to know how to do all those boring, uninteresting things.
[B]10/10 Superb editing and soundtrack, and a really compelling and 3 dimensional villain[/B]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/pSgncuO.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/zJ9mBeT.png[/IMG]
:v:
No but seriously, stop trolling.
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;51420343]I'm just going to be straight with you. There's leagues wrong here and any basic film class, much less even just googling a bit will teach you so much that I couldn't condense it all here in one post. The best I can do is give you basic pointers and hope you have the drive to use google, practice and honestly, sign up for classes if you're serious about film. You guys are obviously young, maybe your high school(?) offers a film production class, take it if so.
Tripod - Unless you know 100% what you're doing and have a glidecam or other actual equipment, you should get a tripod and never make a shot without it unless you actually know what you're doing. My entire first year of film production we were literally never allowed to remove the camera from the tripod for a very good reason.
Manual focus - Auto focus is worthless. If you don't know how to use manual focus you have no place making films outside of home movies of your child before the age of 3-4 when you one day just stop doing so because seriously no one cares about your child that much except maybe you. So learn how to manually operate a camera, you won't succeed without it.
An actual editing program - seriously, even windows movie maker doesn't give you watermarks like that. If you're really interested in doing this kind of thing you're going to need to learn how to use actual software anyway. Go for Premiere, Final Cut, (Vegas if you REALLY have to, but god please don't eugh, Vegas is trash).
Learning an actual program will give you some experience with making good cuts too hopefully, which is another huge issue. The editing of a film can turn the shittiest footage into a decent film, and in reverse.
I assume by hard cuts the poster above me refers to jump cuts, I'll admit it now I stopped watching because I didn't need to keep watching to tell you exactly where you are and what you need to do.
A jump cut is when you put two shots from the same or very similar camera angle together in one scene. It often makes it look like you're "jumping through time". Don't do this.
Film entire scenes in one take and do it from multiple angles, this way you can cut to different shots and you don't actually have to worry so much about actors being shite and having those pauses before they actually do things. This also lets you have more footage to work from, which is literally going to save your life because you might find an entire shot is unusable and you'll have to piece the scene together from other shots. Or you might find all your supplemental shots are trash and you just end up doing an whole scene in one shot. Since you're not on deadlines like an actual film crew, you can do re-shoots way easier than I ever could dream of, so keep that in mind too.
learn about the 180 degree rule, apply it to all over the shoulder conversation scenes you do, learn other basic film rules, etc.
Storyboarding/Script Writing - this is important, your story is incomprehensible to people because you probably didn't write or draw anything out enough/properly. You can use stick figures, no artistic skill required, but drawing the layout of a shot is REALLY helpful for a billion different reasons. A script is the most amazing thing you could ever have. You don't even need professional programs for it:
[url]https://www.celtx.com/index.html[/url]
Celtx is a free website that has script writing on it and stuff. We were recommended to use it in first year since it's free. I personally use Final Draft because that's the program I learned to write scripts with, but Celtx works fine. I honestly had no idea what the hell I was watching even at the 2 minute mark. That's 1/6th of the way through the film. A 12 minute film should have given me some substance by now, I should know who the character is, I should have some investment in the character or story. I know that sounds weird because we're used to it being 2 hours long and 2 minutes being basically nothing in that sense, but this isn't 2 hours of film (thank god).
In the first minute or so I heard the person behind the camera say "ready go". etc, things like this boil back to editing and all the little fundamentals that you'll need.
As it stands I wouldn't say that you guys are hopeless or can't become big youtube stars. But here's the deal, you've got a very, very long way to go before you get anywhere. Current good youtubers are producing videos faster than you, better than you, and there's a good reason for that. They have education and/or experience that put them there, obviously. You guys are currently below high school film class students in quality. It takes years to get good at film making, I was a film student for 4 years, 2nd year of that at degree level. There's so much that goes into film that honestly your dreams are very ambitious at best. As a film student the first thing we're taught is that if you want to be in film at the blockbuster hollywood level you're going to be chasing a dream for many years if you're lucky and if you don't have the personal dedication you may as well quit while you're ahead because so many film makers never make it there, not because they're bad but because it's hard to get into the spotlight and make the right impressions and connections. There's a reason that there's an entire industry surrounding indie short films, and these people succeeding at that level are on youtube already too.
So what do I actually suggest? Don't kill the dream, kill the chase for exposure, because you're going to be told that this is shite. Because it is. It's 8 months of hard work that resulted in 12 minutes of amateur at best trash. And that's 120% okay and expected because it's your first films. My first high school films were fucking rubbish too. Everyone made shitty videos to begin with. The important thing is that you get back up and keep working at it, you have a lot to learn and you're not going to find positive information coming from casual viewers.
I honestly can't recommend any websites that have information about this stuff because everything I learned came from lectures and textbooks. I've done a tiny bit of googling though so here's a bit of stuff to help you out: Also feel free to PM me I guess so long as you've got specific questions. No I won't watch the other 8 minutes of video to give you an in depth review, you don't want that and I don't want to spend hours writing you a film analysis on a shot by shot basis, because it's not going to help you at this point in your education as a film amateur.
[url]http://home.utah.edu/~u0288525/videosite/filmbasics.html[/url]
[url]http://www.doddlenews.com/tag/cinematography-101/[/url]
[url]http://www.doddlenews.com/blogs/post-production/editing-101-basic-rules/[/url]
Where should you go from here? This is ultimately the most important thing I can offer you actually. Advice on how to proceed so you can actually achieve that dream. You need to start smaller. Yeah it's your dream to make this film, yaddah yaddah. Start smaller. Much smaller. As you come across rules and concepts in cinematography you're going to get your mates together and film one scene to illustrate that rule or concept. This is literally like 50% of a first year film student's year in practicals, exercises. See why I mentioned a proper education earlier? Doing it your self is the hard way, but without these concepts understood you're not going to make good films, basically ever.
In fact next time you consider making something longer than a few minutes, you're going to write a whole script out for it. Then you're going to have someone read that script and give you feedback. If they can't understand the script or it isn't interesting, you're not going to get those qualities in a film.
If your script is longer than 6 minutes or so, you're not making it. Shelve it for later. And if your story arc can't be done in one single video, stop right there for sure. Yeah that ad money coming in from part 1 and 2 makes you twice as much as just a full film, but seriously that's a bad practice right now. You need to focus on small arcs with full completion for now.
And no the fundamental exercises aren't interesting to viewers, you won't get views and youtube fame by being good at showcasing various kinds of cut techniques or how to use a boom mic. They don't give a shit that you understand colour, set design or how to set up proper lighting, or how to cast shadows and use exposure like in film noir. But they care that your film is good. And to make a good film you need to know how to do all those boring, uninteresting things.[/QUOTE]
That was an awesome lengthy read! Thank you for the informative words!
[QUOTE=Evaczination;51419786]hey guys!!!
after a rough 8 months of editing, me and my pals have finally finished our movie.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhEsNB22rZ0&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z12ttlj4dvf2wxkjf04chtqrfrvdcd1zyag"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhEsNB22rZ0&feature=gp-n-y&google_comment_id=z12ttlj4dvf2wxkjf04chtqrfrvdcd1zyag[/URL]
sooo heres the deal. if you have rude comments please keep them to yourself as we spent a lot of time on this movie. our biggest dreams that we all mutually share is to be the next big youtuber, dare I say as big as (Pewdiepie).
basically what I need from you guys is tips and a solid review to help us understand our weak areas and what we need to work on to make better quality videos. (better editing softwares, acting tips, etc.)
anyways thank you all! :)
[editline]24th November 2016[/editline]
also im somewhat new to FP the community seems amazing :)[/QUOTE]
I'm not trying to sound negative here but where was the eight months of editing directed at specifically? Like, was there one difficult part of the whole process or something?
Y'all niggaz realize this is just a troll video/post right
What the fuck is this garbage? Isn't shitposting like this bannable?
[QUOTE=ChronoBlade;51420818]I'm not trying to sound negative here but where was the eight months of editing directed at specifically? Like, was there one difficult part of the whole process or something?[/QUOTE]
it took us forever to find that editing software- and a lot of the actors lost motive to continue it was supposed to be a much longer film :/
wait arent you the same guy who keeps making alt accounts and spamming this subforum with your videos and then get banned like 5 minutes later
[QUOTE=Evaczination;51422070]it took us forever to find that editing software- and a lot of the actors lost motive to continue it was supposed to be a much longer film :/[/QUOTE]
How could it be that hard to get sony vegas?
I refuse to believe that this shit took 8 months to make
[QUOTE=Adarrek;51422327]How could it be that hard to get sony vegas?
I refuse to believe that this shit took 8 months to make[/QUOTE]
mostly b/c of funding. youre coming off as a lil rude m8. i came here for advice and tips, not to be rudely critiqued every step of the way :wink:
I actually loved this
Was this created with a version of [url]www.avs4you.com?[/url]
[QUOTE=Godzillan;51422453]Was this created with a version of [url]www.avs4you.com?[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes! :smile:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/Ocknnxi.png?1[/t]
This movie is on way too many levels of irony for me to understand
[QUOTE=Annoyed Grunt;51422698][t]http://i.imgur.com/Ocknnxi.png?1[/t]
This movie is on way too many levels of irony for me to understand[/QUOTE]
I applaud you for this excellent screencap! laugh out loud
[QUOTE=Wii60;51419950]Nitpicking and creativity police[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=F.X Clampazzo;51420343]Lots of text explaining things that could be wrong or done better which also kills soul and feeling[/QUOTE]
As an actual videographer in the industry, don't listen to this person. Just keep doing what you're doing because I had a blast watching it :)
[QUOTE=Glitchman;51423160]As an actual videographer in the industry, don't listen to this person. Just keep doing what you're doing because I had a blast watching it :)[/QUOTE]
honestly thank you i have so much gratitude for this post. we also had a blast producing it so i guess thats what counts right? ;)
since my first video generated so much good reviews, we decided to reboot our series and make a 5th installment! heres the teaser for all you eager beavers :) [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYa0-jsM6mo&feature=youtu.be[/url]
sick
when's who killed captain alex 2
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