He was clearly told to not take questions from CNN before he went out there.
What was the question?
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51656470]Reminder:
[video=youtube;FJqLAleEnKw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJqLAleEnKw[/video][/QUOTE]
Uhhh, can you give a summary of what happens? I don't really want to watch trump and alex for half an hour
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51656470]Reminder:
[I]<33 minute video>[/I][/QUOTE]
jesus christ, TLDW?
[QUOTE=aurum481;51656597]Uhhh, can you give a summary of what happens? I don't really want to watch trump and alex for half an hour[/QUOTE]
You can only expect one thing; BLAH BLAH BLAH LIBERALS BLAH BLAH BLAH SOCIALISM BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Alex Jones doesn't really make sense to anyone who isn't in the extreme-right after all
[QUOTE=J!NX;51656607]You can only expect one thing; BLAH BLAH BLAH LIBERALS BLAH BLAH BLAH SOCIALISM BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
Alex Jones doesn't really make sense to anyone who isn't in the extreme-right after all[/QUOTE]
Isn't Alex Jones just satire? I mean, I just cannot believe that this guy is real because he acts like a character.
but then again, I think the same about Trump
[QUOTE=Valiantttt;51656642]Isn't Alex Jones just satire? I mean, I just cannot believe that this guy is real because he acts like a character.
but then again, I think the same about Trump[/QUOTE]
I think he's in a similar camp to Ann Coulter or Milo Yiannopoulos. Someone who says a bunch of nutty and volatile stuff, whether or not they themselves believe it, to get views and attention. His constant promotion of various products adds to being in that camp.
[QUOTE=aurum481;51656597]Uhhh, can you give a summary of what happens? I don't really want to watch trump and alex for half an hour[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RocketSnail;51656602]jesus christ, TLDW?[/QUOTE]
All you need to see is the thumbnail: Donald Trump on InfoWars.com... and then he calls CNN "fake news". Yeah, I probably should've included that in the post, but I thought it'd be evident.
I didn't actually watch the video myself, it's the mere fact that it exists and was recorded only two years ago.
Alex Jones is a professional troll. His entire job is to make up bullshit conspiracies because those get ratings. When he's not in front of a microphone/camera, he's a regular dad kind of guy (and possibly secretly an acid house DJ but that's irrelevant).
In another recording the CNN person was REALLY annoying. He would not shut up at all, and I'm sure it would annoy anyone.
He was being really rude by trying to talk over Trump, and talk over the other person.
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;51656660]I think he's in a similar camp to Ann Coulter or Milo Yiannopoulos. Someone who says a bunch of nutty and volatile stuff, whether or not they themselves believe it, to get views and attention. His constant promotion of various products adds to being in that camp.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51656684]All you need to see is the thumbnail: Donald Trump on InfoWars.com... and then he calls CNN "fake news". Yeah, I probably should've included that in the post, but I thought it'd be evident.
I didn't actually watch the video myself, it's the mere fact that it exists and was recorded only two years ago.
Alex Jones is a professional troll. His entire job is to make up bullshit conspiracies because those get ratings. When he's not in front of a microphone/camera, he's a regular dad kind of guy (and possibly secretly an acid house DJ but that's irrelevant).[/QUOTE]
Everyone you completely can't understand must be a character played by an actor. There are no actual people that you can't understand.
Alex Jones isn't an actor. He's been spreading shitty conspiracy stories for years.
"Mr. President, that is inappropriate" are words I am not fond of hearing this year
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;51656833]Everyone you completely can't understand must be a character played by an actor. There are no actual people that you can't understand.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.infowars.com/transcript-alex-jones-secede-from-the-new-world-order/"]Is this a real person with genuine beliefs or an actor?[/URL]
[QUOTE]Let me read from [the Constitution]. That these vampires don’t like. It’s like high noon to them.
“While evils are sufferable,” it goes on here, “People to alter or abolish it and to institute new government.”
“That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety and their happiness. Prudence indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light or transient causes. And accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed or conditioned. But when a long train of abuses pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such governments and to provide new guards for their future security.”
And look, I signed my name to it right here. I signed my name to this. Sign your name. It is a symbol. God sees it. If you’ve got one printed out, or if you’ve got a parchment one hanging on the wall, get in there and sign it. In fact, we’ve got back there parchment Constitutions hanging. I want them pulled off the wall. I want the Declaration of Independence pulled out because I want to sign it. That’s what it’s about.
Look at this headline. Glenn Beck says, “Are you out of your mind. They’ll come round you up.” My God, that man is a Benedict Arnold with stuff like that. Or maybe he’s just a coward; he’s got like 30 security people. I just go out to Bilderberg streets, have 1000 people around me. And people are like, ‘That’s crazy, Jones. Why do you do that? Why do you tell folks where you’re going and where you’re going to be?’ This is in God’s hands, that’s why. The tree of liberty has to be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants. And I’m not living in fear. I’m signing my name onto liberty and I’m in, 110%. I’m all in. I’m doubling down. There’s no more backing off. There’s no more playing games. There’s no more half measures. You’re either for freedom, or you’re going to be a slave.
Now, let me give you my plan. And I want to start out first with how they’re going to counterstrike. You’ve seen it. I’ve told you for years. John Warner Defense Authorization Act says for insurrection by the states, governors and legislatures. This is 2007 they were getting ready for this. This is a long term plan where they were getting rid of Posse Comitatus, getting Brigade Homeland set up with 400,000 troops for domestic operations, NORTHCOM standing up, the drones, all of the massive preparations that were going on, being established and being set up, while all of this was going on, they said in the 2007 John Warner Defense Authorization Act, it says, and I read it on air to you, that they are preparing to block the states.
They’re worried about the Governor’s Council even though most of them are their operatives, because we could take that back over and that’s the logical place to have a new Continental Congress of the states to restore the Republic. Not a secession. Recognizing our government’s been hijacked. That’s the key. That’s not words. That’s true. They have declared they have conquered us. That’s a legal posting in over 200 newspapers seen in just the last year. I’ve shown them. Paul Watson and I wrote the article, “Bankers Declare They’ve Conquered Europe and the U.S.” Our first issue of the magazine covered that. Bankers declare they’ve conquered us. That is a legal posting.
These people are lawyers, because they leave backdoors, escape hatches for themselves. That’s why we understand their battle plan, because this barrel of snakes follows a program to exempt themselves from their tyranny, ok? Now listen to me. They’ve got the military set, they’ve got the military ready. Rick Perry joked he’d secede. They put the military on alert in surrounding states to invade. Good. Throw me in that briar patch. Let’s get it on. Let’s get it started. Let’s have you come in and knock some heads and put Army on the streets. Let’s get it going here. Not physical. Don’t fight them when they do this. Let the redcoats occupy like they did for a decade before it really got going. Let the redcoats come in; let them rape women, speak out against it, if you see it happening, you’ve got a moral duty to defend the woman. But no offensive attacks. No offensive attacks. Let their evil flow.[/QUOTE]
You tell me. And this isn't a dumb passive-aggressive zinger, I'm genuinely interested to know your opinion.
The irony of a candidate who pushed the Birther conspiracy (cough FAKE NEWS cough) later dismissing CNN for being fake news is too much.
"that is inappropriate!"
lmao sit the fuck down.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51656926][URL="http://www.infowars.com/transcript-alex-jones-secede-from-the-new-world-order/"]Is this a real person with genuine beliefs or an actor?[/URL]
You tell me. And this isn't a dumb passive-aggressive zinger, I'm genuinely interested to know your opinion.[/QUOTE]
What is the argument you are making? That what he's saying is ridiculous and there is not a single person who could believe it? Sure there are. There are flat-earthers for fuck's sake. There are people who think they are have a soul of a wolf or some shit. There are people who think holocaust didn't happen. Are they all trolls? There's plenty of people detached from reality.
There's enough market for conspiracy theories for one paranoid conspiracy theorist to get a show. Yeah I don't think he's faking it. He's just detached from reality. Just because someone believes he's Napoleon, doesn't mean he doesn't actually believe it.
Watching this after watching Obama's farewell speech is pretty depressing.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;51657034]What is the argument you are making? That what he's saying is ridiculous and there is not a single person who could believe it? Sure there are. There are flat-earthers for fuck's sake. There are people who think they are have a soul of a wolf or some shit. There are people who think holocaust didn't happen. Are they all trolls? There's plenty of people detached from reality.
There's enough market for conspiracy theories for one paranoid conspiracy theorist to get a show. Yeah I don't think he's faking it. He's just detached from reality. Just because someone believes he's Napoleon, doesn't mean he doesn't actually believe it.[/QUOTE]
Okay, there we go.
The President-Elect of the US calls CNN "fake news" but will gladly give half-hour-long interviews to detatched nutjob fuckos on crazed bullshit conspiracy websites.
What a wonderful world.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51657059]Okay, there we go.
The President-Elect of the US calls CNN "fake news" but will gladly give half-hour-long interviews to detatched nutjob fuckos on crazed bullshit conspiracy websites.
What a wonderful world.[/QUOTE]
Uh, we were talking about whether or not Alex Jones is only acting or not.
I don't know what does that have to do with anything. It's not like I disagree but you just moved goalposts a mile.
Fox News is sticking up for CNN, this is weird
[media]https://twitter.com/ShepNewsTeam/status/819299194313863168[/media]
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;51657115]Uh, we were talking about whether or not Alex Jones is only acting or not.
I don't know what does that have to do with anything. It's not like I disagree but you just moved goalposts a mile.[/QUOTE]
After my big excerpt showing what kind of person Alex Jones is in front of a mic, you did not change your mind; I obviously can't succeed there so we'll agree to hold our own opinions. I prefer to think that Alex Jones says what he says with full self-awareness but it's not like I'm his neighbour or anything so I can't claim to know for sure.
So, going by your view of things, the new President gives insane nutjobs who yell about murder pills more credibility than one of America's major news networks. That's even worse than if the conclusion was that Trump gave interviews to trolls who were in on the joke.
[QUOTE=Saxon;51657119]Fox News is sticking up for CNN, this is weird
[media]https://twitter.com/ShepNewsTeam/status/819299194313863168[/media][/QUOTE]
Even Fox News knows that the consequences for delegitimizing the media are catastrophic. It's one of the last major steps in installing a propaganda regime.
[QUOTE=Saxon;51657119]Fox News is sticking up for CNN, this is weird
[media]https://twitter.com/ShepNewsTeam/status/819299194313863168[/media][/QUOTE]
Say what you will about Fox, but Shepard Smith is a really respectable guy.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51657203]So, going by your view of things, the new President gives insane nutjobs who yell about murder pills more credibility than one of America's major news networks. That's even worse than if the conclusion was that Trump gave interviews to trolls who were in on the joke.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it is. You're the only one making the claim that Alex Jones is a persona, and I'm not sure I see how that even became an argument? Whether he's acting it or not, it's hypocritical of Trump to whine about 'fake news' after pushing the Obama birther conspiracy theory and appearing on Alex Jones' show, and wasn't that what you were trying to show by linking the video? Silly Sil was just pointing out that you shouldn't assume he's acting just because his behavior is unbelievable - maybe he just is terrible.
[QUOTE=The Vman;51657330]Say what you will about Fox, but Shepard Smith is a really respectable guy.[/QUOTE]
I remember when everyone made fun of him during the live chase of that suspect, when he said "Get off it, get off it!"
He was asking people to not show a shotgun suicide on live television.
Smith is a fantastic reporter, funny, and is fairly centrist all things considered.
don't read the comments on the video
[QUOTE=The Vman;51657330]Say what you will about Fox, but Shepard Smith is a really respectable guy.[/QUOTE]
Fox has some great people working for it, its a shame they can't be the unbiased voice of reason this country deserves more often.
[QUOTE=Saxon;51657119]Fox News is sticking up for CNN, this is weird
[media]https://twitter.com/ShepNewsTeam/status/819299194313863168[/media][/QUOTE]
Hopefully this becomes a trend during the Trump presidency. Even if they massively disagree on the vast majority of issues, they need to stand up for journalistic integrity and free press.
24 hour news stations may not always be the best source of unbiased information, they still have a right to exist under the first amendment, and the president shouldn't attempt to illegitimize these networks as being "fake" when they deliver views that oppose his.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51657203]After my big excerpt showing what kind of person Alex Jones is in front of a mic, you did not change your mind; I obviously can't succeed there so we'll agree to hold our own opinions. I prefer to think that Alex Jones says what he says with full self-awareness but it's not like I'm his neighbour or anything so I can't claim to know for sure.[/QUOTE]
You either have too much faith in humanity and don't want to accept that people like Alex Jones actually exist and believe what they say or simply dismiss people who you don't understand as trolls. Either way it's going to stand in the way of understanding your opponents and if you'd want, arguing against them.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51657203]So, going by your view of things, the new President gives insane nutjobs who yell about murder pills more credibility than one of America's major news networks. That's even worse than if the conclusion was that Trump gave interviews to trolls who were in on the joke.[/QUOTE]
Yeah Trump's a hypocrite. I never argued he's not?
[QUOTE=Clovernoodle;51657433]don't read the comments on the video[/QUOTE]
I have a good feeling those same people called bullshit on Clinton claiming that "fake news" was an issue.
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