• The Nordic Resistance Movement Demonstrating in Falun, Sweden
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[url]http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=4916&artikel=6686301[/url] [quote]On monday, may the first its the workers holiday and a lot of people choose to demonstrate. Socialdemokraterna and Vänsterpartiet are usually the primary parties that demonstrate and hold speeches on this day, but in Falun, Dalarna, a nazi-parti is going to demonstrate. The party is named "Nordiska Motståndsrörelsen" and it's the second year they have recieved the rights to demonstrate in Dalarna. The swedish law says that everyone is allowed to demonstrate and have big gatherings but you have to seek permission from the police. The police can say no due to safety issues, but it's uncommon. The police also decides the place on which the demonstration should be held. There will be about 200 policemen in Falun the first of may and there will also be police from other parts of the country to help.[/quote] Quick translation from me, since there are no sources in english. And here's another source in swedish. [url]http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/nazister-haller-tal-i-falun-pa-forsta-maj/[/url] I live in the town and am currently seeing it all happen, they marched past the japanese restaurant I worked at earlier as I was there. There's also a huge response at the moment with people gathering to counter-protest. I'll provide more information tonight or tomorrow if anything interesting happens. The media organization my mother works for is currently live-sending it if you're interested: [url]http://www.dt.se/dalarna/folj-var-rapportering-direkt-fran-1-maj-i-falun[/url]
Yeah, these people are ridiculous, they believe in a global jewish conspiracy and wants to deport any non-Nordic people from Sweden.
So as far as I can tell the party's demonstration is being overshadowed by a much larger yet less organized anti-racism demonstration.
Really nice poem told by a Syrian refugee in that livestream.
Used to live close to there so kinda bizarre to hear about this happening when I'm gone. Hopefully people will be alright and no one will get hurt.
We'll just leave out the fact Nordic raiders fucked almost anything with a pulse and used non-Nordic women as concubines. Not to mention they would abduct children that would be "adopted" in to families that needed help around their farms or whatever their trade was.
[QUOTE=MattSif;52172539]We'll just leave out the fact Nordic raiders fucked almost anything with a pulse and used non-Nordic women as concubines. Not to mention they would abduct children that would be "adopted" in to families that needed help around their farms or whatever their trade was.[/QUOTE] I don't think this is really relevant in a discussion about modern Sweden, even considering the context of "immigration" you're speaking of.
[QUOTE=MattSif;52172539]We'll just leave out the fact Nordic raiders fucked almost anything with a pulse and used non-Nordic women as concubines. Not to mention they would abduct children that would be "adopted" in to families that needed help around their farms or whatever their trade was.[/QUOTE] this stopped at least 900 years ago
[QUOTE=MattSif;52172539]We'll just leave out the fact Nordic raiders fucked almost anything with a pulse and used non-Nordic women as concubines. Not to mention they would abduct children that would be "adopted" in to families that needed help around their farms or whatever their trade was.[/QUOTE] We'll just leave out the fact that this has nothing to do with modern society and the topic at hand. Not to mention that not all vikings were bloodthirsty berserkers hellbent on killing and fucking everything that moved.
[QUOTE=MattSif;52172539]We'll just leave out the fact Nordic raiders fucked almost anything with a pulse and used non-Nordic women as concubines. Not to mention they would abduct children that would be "adopted" in to families that needed help around their farms or whatever their trade was.[/QUOTE] And what about all those american that keeps black people as slaves, huh?
Guys I think he's making fun of the hypocrisy of the Nordic Defense dudes because they rant and rave about how pure their vikingness is
[QUOTE=MattSif;52172539]We'll just leave out the fact Nordic raiders fucked almost anything with a pulse and used non-Nordic women as concubines. Not to mention they would abduct children that would be "adopted" in to families that needed help around their farms or whatever their trade was.[/QUOTE] Yes, and all Irish are starving peasants who die of famine every couple of years. This is like comparing apples and oranges, bud.
So seems it all went well, considering things and that there's still hope somewhere in the world atleast.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;52173265]So seems it all went well, considering things and that there's still hope somewhere in the world atleast.[/QUOTE] Sweden got the most peaceful people, including nazis apparently.
Millions of people died in WW2 trying to rid the world of these Nazi fucks and we let them come back. Why isn't anyone doing anything?
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52178144]Millions of people died in WW2 trying to rid the world of these Nazi fucks and we let them come back. Why isn't anyone doing anything?[/QUOTE] Because we're better than the nazis in preventing free speech.
[QUOTE=RB33;52178152]Because we're better than the nazis in preventing free speech.[/QUOTE] Okay but if you look around you'll notice that they're gaining more and more momentum in Europe, the USA, an especially Russia, so I don't see how that solves our problem?
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52178160]Okay but if you look around you'll notice that they're gaining more and more momentum in Europe, the USA, an especially Russia, so I don't see how that solves our problem?[/QUOTE] Are openly nazi parties winning any elections yet? If not, there is no real danger.
[QUOTE=RB33;52178169]Are openly nazi parties winning any elections yet? If not, there is no real danger.[/QUOTE] Hitler never won an election. The danger is in the hearts and minds of people. The people of Germany went willingly with the Nazi war machine. The US is seeing the resurgence of white nationalism in politics (Trump, Bannon, etc.). France, England, Germany, Hungary, Russia are all going through a transformation in which white nationalists are becoming very influential in politics. It all comes back to Putin. Russia has the largest concentration of neo-nazis in the world; Putin spends millions influencing elections. He bought the election in the United States, he's had a long history of buying elections in Eastern Europe, and is pouring money into France, England, and German far right groups. The world needs to do something about Putin
The Norwegian chapter of this organisation are now planning a demonstration in Fredrikstad this summer. I intend to join the counter-protests and I urge you Swedes to do the same. The Nordic Resistance Movement is a genuine neo-nazi group and they aim to turn the entirety of Scandinavia into a fascist state through revolution. If they want to spread propaganda while hiding behind cops and "free speech" then we'll use our own free speech and numbers to tell them to fuck off.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;52178511]the left grew tired of talking and trying to bridge the gap with the right.[/QUOTE] This is the biggest bullshit I've ever read. Conservatives have spent the last 20 years calling Democrats fascists, nazis, making up conspiracy theories about the Clintons and Obama and did everything they possibly could (including taking foreign assistance from Russia, an enemy state) in order to defeat the democrats. The [b]conservatives[/b] have done nothing but burn bridges. Then, when their shithead candidate wins after spending an entire election marginalizing minorities, women, LGBT people, etc. they have the fucking GALL to talk about "healing our country". It's hard to heal the country when the motherfuckers who broke it won the election. If we're gonna "heal" our country, we need to impeach these assholes
[QUOTE=Marbalo;52178661]I'm not talking about the politicians, I'm talking about the voters who elected these politicians to begin with.[/QUOTE] The politicians are an extension of the voters. The voters suck as much as the Republicans
We have some of these "resistance movement" guys where I'm from. I call them sticker nazis because they usually only come out at night to glue stickers on light poles. Basically a bunch of kids with shaved heads wearing camo pants and being stupid. Dumb but mostly harmless like the "soldiers of odin".
[QUOTE=Marbalo;52178511]it's because the left grew tired of talking and trying to bridge the gap with the right.[/QUOTE] Do the right try to bridge the gap with the left? It seems like at least in american politics they've just gotten increasingly more right wing since reagan or goldwater.
[QUOTE=MattSif;52172539]We'll just leave out the fact Nordic raiders fucked almost anything with a pulse and used non-Nordic women as concubines. Not to mention they would abduct children that would be "adopted" in to families that needed help around their farms or whatever their trade was.[/QUOTE] We'll just leave out the fact that the mass majority of the Nordic population weren't bloodthirsty Vikings but mostly peasant farmers who tried to get by like the rest of the World
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52178842]The politicians are an extension of the voters. The voters suck as much as the Republicans[/QUOTE] Na man that aint true If I offer you a plate with shit on it, then another slightly smaller plate with less shit and a chocolate bar still in wrapper. If you pick the second plate it doesn't mean you like shit. Then some other person with a different value system comes along and picks the other plate (maybe they need the shit to fertilise their soy bean patch). We pick the better of 2 evils, it doesn't mean we support evil. By not voting you fall into a prisoners dialemma sort of scenario, because someone else acted when you did not then you get royally screwed (the worse of 2 evils according to your values gets in and you're left deeply unsettled) That said I hold a deep disdain for british voters right now. They just keep voting WRONG
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52180748]Na man that aint true If I offer you a plate with shit on it, then another slightly smaller plate with less shit and a chocolate bar still in wrapper. If you pick the second plate it doesn't mean you like shit. Then some other person with a different value system comes along and picks the other plate (maybe they need the shit to fertilise their soy bean patch). We pick the better of 2 evils, it doesn't mean we support evil. By not voting you fall into a prisoners dialemma sort of scenario, because someone else acted when you did not then you get royally screwed (the worse of 2 evils according to your values gets in and you're left deeply unsettled) That said I hold a deep disdain for british voters right now. They just keep voting WRONG[/QUOTE] Anyone who picked trump because they thought he was better than Clinton sucks as bad as Trump tbh. Trump demonstrated himself to be a caricature of a bad candidate and still people voted for him. I honestly believe that Trump won because the people who voted for him were finally happy that racism, sexism, and xenophobia are acceptable in politics again. I really do believe that racism is the #1 factor that got trump elected
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52180885]Anyone who picked trump because they thought he was better than Clinton sucks as bad as Trump tbh. Trump demonstrated himself to be a caricature of a bad candidate and still people voted for him. I honestly believe that Trump won because the people who voted for him were finally happy that racism, sexism, and xenophobia are acceptable in politics again. I really do believe that racism is the #1 factor that got trump elected[/QUOTE] No, it was because of the out of touch political establishment, people wanted change. So they voted the one which they thought offered the greatest shakeup. If it was Bernie running, he would have won against Trump or any other republican.
I think it was a combination of both.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;52180885]Anyone who picked trump because they thought he was better than Clinton sucks as bad as Trump tbh. Trump demonstrated himself to be a caricature of a bad candidate and still people voted for him. I honestly believe that Trump won because the people who voted for him were finally happy that racism, sexism, and xenophobia are acceptable in politics again. I really do believe that racism is the #1 factor that got trump elected[/QUOTE] I would say #1 factor was ambivalence. People willing to let his racism/sexism/other-isms slide because they valued something else as higher priority. 1 facepuncher and several people irl I've talked to said they supported trump coz he'll "restart" the corrupt system. They value the destruction of a system which is doomed to, and deserves to, fail over all the shit Trump is. Trump offered simple (and flawed) solutions to problems. People lose jobs to automation and globalisation? "I'll stop immigrants from taking you jobs, I'll stop trading with mexico, I'll make more jobs" To people who are hurting because they don't have a job getting that job back is more important than someone being sexist or racist. Also he made a narrative of him vs "the man" and western culture seems very much to be about celebrating the underdog and the rebel (unless the underdog is from the middle east)
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