[quote]President-elect Donald Trump said Saturday he will dissolve the Trump Foundation, the charitable foundation in his name, as part of efforts to untangle himself of conflicts of interest in the weeks before he is sworn into office.Trump said in a statement he was dismantling the foundation "to avoid even the appearance of any conflict with my role as President."
He has also said recently that he will announce steps next month to separate himself from his business, the Trump Organization, to avoid conflicts of interest as president of the United States, even though he has repeatedly suggested such steps are unnecessary.[/quote]
[quote]And an ongoing investigation launched by Schneiderman over allegations Trump used the charity to settle private legal disputes in which he was involved may prevent Trump from shuttering the foundation."The Trump Foundation is still under investigation by this office and cannot legally dissolve until that investigation is complete," Amy Spitalnick, the attorney general's press secretary, said in an email. She also confirmed the foundation's fundraising activities "remain suspended."[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/24/politics/trump-says-hell-dissolve-foundation/index.html[/url]
[url]https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2016/12/24/ending-deals-and-relationships-trumps-scurry-unscramble-business-ties/nNrx4qMpL2SBXEportK44N/story.html[/url]
[url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/12/25/democrats-hound-trump-over-closure-foundation.html[/url]
one less conflict of interest out of a ton of others
[QUOTE=Wii60;51583475]one less conflict of interest out of a ton of others[/QUOTE]
But one less nonetheless. Not saying it like it's much of a change, but it's something.
Coming in 2017, the brand new "Donald Foundation"
Trump the master of false sincerity
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51583530]But one less nonetheless. Not saying it like it's much of a change, but it's something.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think we should legitimize it that way. Even conceding a tiny, tiny bit that "it's something" is giving him and his supporters a concession to run with. "See? He really is trying to clean up his image. He's not a bad guy, honest!" Like Wii60 said, there's so many other things that he needs to address but hasn't.
Feels a bit like he's trying to drop it before it gets outed as a big scam, in order to make it appear like he's resolving his conflicts of interest.
Or maybe he's genuinely trying to address people's concerns, but forgive me for taking anything Trump does with a hefty dose of cynicism.
The article makes it sound like it's a charity organization, is that accurate? If so then I've got another thing to bring up from this: the only conflict of interest he's killing off is the one that doesn't make him money
He apologized for the grab them by the pussy video. This is a perfect example of how trump uses managed sincerity to get his way. The trump foundation being dissolved is the same pattern.
[QUOTE=Govna;51583563]I understand what you're saying, but I don't think we should legitimize it that way. Even conceding a tiny, tiny bit that "it's something" is giving him and his supporters a concession to run with. "See? He really is trying to clean up his image. He's not a bad guy, honest!" Like Wii60 said, there's so many other things that he needs to address but hasn't.[/QUOTE]
Of course. It's not worth actual praise for Trump's action, but I think it at most deserves a very small compliment, I mean [I]very[/I] small. But I agree, there are other things to address on him.
I strongly suspect he's shutting it down not to eliminate (the appearance of) conflicts of interest, but because continued scrutiny into it will reveal it to be a massive and illegal tax dodge. We already know he used other people's charity money to bribe a state attorney to stop investigating his fraudulent university. What other abuses has he put it through?
we are all his foundation now
we are all under his whim
heil trump
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51583530]But one less nonetheless. Not saying it like it's much of a change, but it's something.[/QUOTE]
he dissolved the smallest of conflicts while promising hes gonna build a wall around the others, even as shitty and probably illegal as it was, the trump foundation was a charity which is treated much more lieniantly
I'll believe it when I see it
[QUOTE=PsycheClops;51583530]But one less nonetheless. Not saying it like it's much of a change, but it's something.[/QUOTE]
Stop. Literally stop. People keep doing this, you're playing right into his hands. This is a basic business strategy. He takes an extreme position, ie.) im keeping all my buisnesses, then gives some small concessions and calls it a fair deal.
I keep seeing this happen. I know this probably wanst your intention but this is exactly what he wants and he keeps doing it. This isn't a fucking debate, he MUST remove these conflicts of interest. ALL OF THEM. Not today, not tomorrow, but yesterday.
[QUOTE=Richoxen;51584810]Stop. Literally stop. People keep doing this, you're playing right into his hands. This is a basic business strategy. He takes an extreme position, ie.) im keeping all my buisnesses, then gives some small concessions and calls it a fair deal.
I keep seeing this happen. I know this probably wanst your intention but this is exactly what he wants and he keeps doing it. This isn't a fucking debate, he MUST remove these conflicts of interest. ALL OF THEM. Not today, not tomorrow, but yesterday.[/QUOTE]
People say he's stupid but he's a pretty good businessman exactly because of this. He's good at selling you on something by being absurd at first then toning it down so it [I]feels[/I] that he's being more reasonable suddenly.
And of course, the final deal benefits him and him only.
[QUOTE=mchapra;51584816]People say he's stupid but he's a pretty good businessman exactly because of this. He's good at selling you on something by being absurd at first then toning it down so it [I]feels[/I] that he's being more reasonable suddenly.
And of course, the final deal benefits him and him only.[/QUOTE]
Anyone that thinks that the (for the time being) most powerful man in the world, who [I]also [/I]has billions upon billions of dollars, is [I]stupid[/I]... well, I don't really have any insult big enough to highlight how ridiculous that idea is.
[QUOTE=Monkah;51584835]Anyone that thinks that the (for the time being) most powerful man in the world, who [I]also [/I]has billions upon billions of dollars, is [I]stupid[/I]... well, I don't really have any insult big enough to highlight how ridiculous that is.[/QUOTE]
What about all of the various heads of state who were stupid?
being a head of state doesn't preclude you from being stupid
Trump's clever but not stupid. Unwise and a fool but not stupid
[QUOTE=Guriosity;51585027]Trump's clever but not stupid. Unwise and a fool but not stupid[/QUOTE]
Fool and stupid are synonymous.
DO you have a different meaning of the word stupid you want to give us?
[QUOTE=Monkah;51584835]Anyone that thinks that the (for the time being) most powerful man in the world, who [I]also [/I]has billions upon billions of dollars, is [I]stupid[/I]... well, I don't really have any insult big enough to highlight how ridiculous that idea is.[/QUOTE]
yea, presidents can never be stupid cough cough bush
[QUOTE=Monkah;51584835] I don't really have any insult big enough to highlight how ridiculous that idea is.[/QUOTE]
Bro don't tease us with a big flame-out like that. Here, I'll get you started.
"Trump is stupid".
Is this an actual promise or one like the wall? Or draining the swamp?
[QUOTE=gk99;51583597]The article makes it sound like it's a charity organization, is that accurate? If so then I've got another thing to bring up from this: the only conflict of interest he's killing off is the one that doesn't make him money[/QUOTE]
It's technically a charity organization, however despite having Trump's name it doesn't use [I]any[/I] of his money.
The Foundation solicits money from other charities then uses that money to donate to other charities - under Trump's name.
So Trump doesn't spend a dime while he gets the image of being extremely charitable and socially conscious.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51585276]It's technically a charity organization, however despite having Trump's name it doesn't use [I]any[/I] of his money.
The Foundation solicits money from other charities then uses that money to donate to other charities - under Trump's name.
So Trump doesn't spend a dime while he gets the image of being extremely charitable and socially conscious.[/QUOTE]
Well that's just strange. Got any more info on that?
[QUOTE=Monkah;51584835]Anyone that thinks that the (for the time being) most powerful man in the world, who [I]also [/I]has billions upon billions of dollars, is [I]stupid[/I]... well, I don't really have any insult big enough to highlight how ridiculous that idea is.[/QUOTE]
Are you looking for a position in Trump's cabinet? You're doing a good job sucking up to him.
Idiots become leaders of their nations all the time. I should know - Biffo was a moron!
George W. Bush didn't strike me as an extremely intelligent man either.
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;51585292]Well that's just strange. Got any more info on that?[/QUOTE]
Currently trying to find my source that I read or watched a few months ago on it
[QUOTE=Monkah;51584835]Anyone that thinks that the (for the time being) most powerful man in the world, who [I]also [/I]has billions upon billions of dollars, is [I]stupid[/I]... well, I don't really have any insult big enough to highlight how ridiculous that idea is.[/QUOTE]
hes surrounded by people who have enabled him for decades. the banks, the investors, the lawyers, the TV producers the campaign managers, theyve all dressed, doctored, legitimized, and enabled him to succeed where hes made some increadibly moronic decisions.
if he wasnt born with a silver spoon up his ass he'd be no better off than a poor ass highschool dropout
I want to point out the Trump Foundation has been accused of numerous shady dealings.
[quote=Wikipedia: 'Trump Foundation Legal and Ethical Controversies']
- Solicitation of donations without a license
- Delay in granting donations solicited for veterans organizations' benefit
- Foundation grants as political advertisements
- Grants to the National Museum of Catholic Art and Library (To gain favor with the chairman who was on the Building and Construction Trades Council of Greater New York)
- Failure to make pledged 9/11 donations
- Using Trump Foundation money to settle Trump Organization legal disputes
- Foundation grants for political purposes
- Purchasing goods and services for personal or business benefit with foundation money
- Diverting business or personal income earned to the foundation as donations
- Granting money to charities that rented Trump Organization facilities
- Making grants to other private foundations without fulfilling IRS "expenditure responsibility" rules
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Trump_Foundation[/URL]
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The N.Y attorney general is also refusing the Foundation be shut down. So no, Trump's not going to dissolve the foundation. But with all the heat it's getting you can see why he wants to sweep it under the rug.
This is not about minimizing confllicts of interest. This is about trying to quietly close down an investigation before it becomes a bigger liability.
[media]https://twitter.com/amyspitalnick/status/812747189210513408[/media]
Here's my source:
[video=youtube;cyBPoiRNpYY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyBPoiRNpYY[/video]
May want to skip to about 5:30 to get to meat of the story.
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