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[B] Two people have been killed and more than 600 injured in fierce clashes between protesters and security forces in Cairo and Alexandria. [/B]
[URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15807130"]Video[/URL]
The clashes came as police moved to prevent a long-term sit-in following a huge demonstration in Cairo against the military leadership on Friday.
Some protesters lobbed rocks and a police vehicle was set on fire.
The latest violence comes just over a week before parliamentary elections are scheduled to begin.
Protesters - mostly Islamists and young activists - have been holding demonstrations against a draft constitution that they say would allow the military to retain too much power after a new civilian government is elected.
Correspondents say many Egyptians are frustrated at what they see as a reluctance by the ruling military council - who took power after the fall of former President Hosni Mubarak in February - to carry out meaningful reforms.
Saturday's violence in Cairo began when police moved to dismantle tents erected by demonstrators in Cairo's Tahrir Square who had camped out for the night.
The move to clear the square prompted thousands of protesters to return, and clashes erupted. Police fired rubber bullets as cars were set on fire, witnesses said.
The numbers of protesters swelled, reportedly after a call went out on social media for people to join the demonstration following the police assault.
Prime Minister Essam Sharaf called on the protesters to clear the square.
"What is happening in Tahrir is very dangerous and threatens the course of the nation and the revolution," a statement from the cabinet said.
Black smoke rose over the square after protesters swarmed over an armoured police van, turned it over and set it alight, reports said.
There were also demonstrations in Alexandria and Suez.
The state-run Mena news agency says more than 670 people were injured.
One of those wounded in Cairo later died in hospital, while a protester was killed in Alexandria during violent confrontations outside the offices of the interior ministry.
AFP quoted a security official as saying a number of arrests were made.
One of the demonstrators, Ali Abdel Aziz, said security forces beat up protesters to break up the sit-in on Saturday.
"They beat us harshly, they didn't care for either men or women," the 32-year-old accountancy professor told AFP news agency.
"The interior ministry must take responsibility. We have one demand, the military council must go," he said.
One prominent protester, Malek Mostafa, lost an eye after being hit by a rubber bullet, said Ghada Shahbender, a member of the Egyptian Organisation for Human Rights.
"It is a crime," she told AP news agency. "They [police] were shooting rubber bullets directly at the heads... I heard an officer ordering his soldiers to aim for the head."
The interior ministry says a number of policemen were among the wounded.
In Alexandria, protester Ahmed Abdel-Qader told the Associated Press activists had thrown stones at the main security headquarters.
"We only managed to bring down the head of the regime [Hosni Mubarak]. The rest of the tree is still standing," he said.
Friday's demonstration, which saw tens of thousands fill Tahrir Square, was one of the largest for months.
Parliamentary elections are due to begin on 28 November and take three months.
Earlier this month, Egypt's military rulers produced a draft document setting out principles for a new constitution.
Under those guidelines, the military would be exempted from civilian overnight, as would its budget.[/release]
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This is how you get shit done in the middle east.
Death to the Junta.
Again? Seriously? Stop Egypt.
[QUOTE=Roof;33350448]Again? Seriously? Stop Egypt.[/QUOTE]
Thats exactly how you make change, do nothing!
The fuck are they bickering about now?
Told youu
I warned you bro.
I told you months ago the revolution would come full circle.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;33350630]The fuck are they bickering about now?[/QUOTE]
Apparently, military rule by military leaders that are pretty much on the same level as Mubarak isn't very desirable. Shocking, isn't it?
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;33350650]I warned you bro.
I told you months ago the revolution would come full circle.[/QUOTE]
Well no shit, but didn't a shit ton of people, including I, say something similar to this shit would happen, not even a few days after the protests began earlier last year?
You can't just oust your president, and hand over power to the military and expect things to be hunky doory.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;33350778]Well no shit, but didn't a shit ton of people, including I, say something similar to this shit would happen, not even a few days after the protests began earlier last year?
You can't just oust your president, and hand over power to the military and expect things to be hunky doory.[/QUOTE]
They were promised democratic elections and the military are talking a while, so they're getting suspicious.
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;33351057]They were promised democratic elections and the military are talking a while, so they're getting suspicious.[/QUOTE]
I don't blame them, I would do as well.
It does seem that in Egypt they have gone from a dictator running the country to his army running the country.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;33350597]Thats exactly how you make change, do nothing![/QUOTE]You misinterpreted my message.
The military regime was supposed to have elections by now and step down. Instead, they keep delaying them. The protesters continue to occupy Tahrir and are calling for parliamentary elections by April next year.
This is good that they are still fighting for their rights. They jumped from dictator to oligarchy junta, but they'll get there eventually.
"Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss"
I don't know why but the picture in the OP is almost comical
It looks like everyone is just bumbling around slightly drunk :v:
2011 is going to be historical for its large-scale protests worldwide.
Let's hope 2012 becomes famous for the changes those protests bring. Maybe the Mayans were right about a new beginning after all. :v:
Fuck yeah Police states. /sarcasm.
Fucking assholes, Next they'll bring in the army for no reason.
[QUOTE=Florence;33350690]Apparently, military rule by military leaders that are pretty much on the same level as Mubarak isn't very desirable. Shocking, isn't it?[/QUOTE]
It said nothing like that. They're angry because the Military council is weary of setting up a government with massive reforms which could just lead to a massive polarization.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33358694]2011 is going to be historical for its large-scale protests worldwide.
Let's hope 2012 becomes famous for the changes those protests bring. Maybe the Mayans were right about a new beginning after all. :v:[/QUOTE]
I don't know about the events 2012 will bring, but if you are correct then 2013 will be a year to fear.
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15809739[/url]
Protesters have re-occupied the square
SCAF bitches, it is on.
We'll show them, yet again.
Please keep us updated, voodoo.
Apparently the police are using CS gas instead of tear gas this time around, reportedly a shipment fresh from the US.
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Also, We Are All Khaled Said is saying that a ceasefire is being organized.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;33358694]2011 is going to be historical for its large-scale protests worldwide.
Let's hope 2012 becomes famous for the changes those protests bring. Maybe the Mayans were right about a new beginning after all. :v:[/QUOTE]
Yeah let's hope that asteroid will crash down on the military, that will change everything. Those crazy mayans knew about these riots all along.
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];33364053']Apparently the police are using CS gas instead of tear gas this time around, reportedly a shipment fresh from the US.
Also, We Are All Khaled Said is saying that a ceasefire is being organized.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it the same thing?
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;33364063]Yeah let's hope that asteroid will crash down on the military, that will change everything.
Isn't it the same thing?[/QUOTE]
CS gas is a type of tear gas, but it's effects are generally more irritating, from what I understand.
Yo dawg, I heard you like revolutions...
Seriously? You guys couldn't wait one week?
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;33368697]Seriously? You guys couldn't wait one week?[/QUOTE]
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.
Yeah, we're definitely at round two now.
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Egypt is on fire tonight, millions are taking to the streets after Tantawi (Commander of the Supreme Council Of Armed Forces) gave a speech to try to contain the situation. Allegedly they're using chemical warfare now it seems. People are vomiting blood and experiencing seizures from an unknown odourless gas that was sprayed on Tahrir square from a military plane.
R.I.P SCAF.
[editline]22nd November 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;33368697]Seriously? You guys couldn't wait one week?[/QUOTE]
Considering we took down Mubarak in 18 days, one week is excessive.
Also, we don't give a shit about the upcoming elections any more, it was clear and obvious where they were going with their vision of "fair elections".
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