[QUOTE]Debris and body parts have been found in the Mediterranean Sea by teams searching for a missing EgyptAir plane, Greek and Egyptian officials say.
Flight MS804 was en route from Paris to Cairo with 66 passengers and crew when it vanished early on Thursday.
Items including seats and luggage has also been retrieved by Egyptian search crews.
The debris was discovered about 290km (180 miles) north of Alexandria, the Egyptian military said.
European Space Agency satellites spotted an oil slick in the area where the flight had vanished but the organisation said there was no guarantee it was from the missing plane.
The search is now focused on finding the plane's flight recorders, the Associated Press news agency reports.
Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi has expressed his "utmost sadness and regret" at the crash.
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Breaking, will update with more information when the BBC updates.
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36339614[/url]
terrorist attack? didn`t expect that again, they really start happening more and more often.
Damn.
Although I suppose there would have been boasting about it already?
As mentioned in a previous thread, it doesn't seem like a terrorist attack. If there were any terrorist attacks it would be done on the airport, not on a plane, out in the middle of nowhere.
Seems more like a malfunction in my opinion.
But who knows, only time will tell what it actually was. But I'm gonna remain skeptical on it being a terrorist attack until further evidence is found.
[QUOTE=Limed00d;50351546]As mentioned in a previous thread, it doesn't seem like a terrorist attack. If there were any terrorist attacks it would be done on the airport, not on a plane, out in the middle of nowhere.
Seems more like a malfunction in my opinion.
But who knows, only time will tell what it actually was. But I'm gonna remain skeptical on it being a terrorist attack until further evidence is found.[/QUOTE]
What makes you think that?
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268[/url]
[QUOTE=Limed00d;50351546]As mentioned in a previous thread, it doesn't seem like a terrorist attack. If there were any terrorist attacks it would be done on the airport, not on a plane, out in the middle of nowhere.
Seems more like a malfunction in my opinion.
But who knows, only time will tell what it actually was. But I'm gonna remain skeptical on it being a terrorist attack until further evidence is found.[/QUOTE]
Why does one attack in Brussels change how they operate?
[QUOTE=Limed00d;50351546]As mentioned in a previous thread, it doesn't seem like a terrorist attack. If there were any terrorist attacks it would be done on the airport, not on a plane, out in the middle of nowhere.
Seems more like a malfunction in my opinion.
But who knows, only time will tell what it actually was. But I'm gonna remain skeptical on it being a terrorist attack until further evidence is found.[/QUOTE]
IDK, if it were due to malfunction they'd have probably been able to call it out, as opposed to an explosion which is sudden. That and I imagine ditching into the sea would leave the plane mostly intact
[QUOTE=Perrine;50351728][media]https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/733347802772873216[/media][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]John Goglia, a former US National Transportation Safety Board member, said early indications point more to a bomb than to a structural or mechanical failure behind EgyptAir flight's crash.
Mr Goglia told the Associated Press news agency that "given the fact that (the pilot) made those abrupt turns without broadcasting any maydays would indicate to me that something catastrophic like a device happened".
He says a mechanical failure "still has to be considered but at this point I would put that down pretty low".'
He adds that another scenario, like structural failure, is also possible, but unlikely.[/QUOTE]
Usually with mechanical failure the crew have time to get at least one message out. The likelihood of this being terrorism is very high, it's just that Government agencies will always err on the side of caution until they have hard evidence.
[QUOTE=Limed00d;50351546]it doesn't seem like a terrorist attack. If there were any terrorist attacks it would be done on the airport, not on a plane, out in the middle of nowhere.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Pan Am 103 rings a bell
Has to be terrorists. Even explosive decompression gives enough time for a quick mayday. The only thing that would prevent any sort of communications would be a sudden actual explosion.
66 people is more than enough for ISIS or another group to target.
that video in the other thresd of a fireball spotted over a Greek island got taken down. Could that have really been the plane?
Doubtful given the planes last transmitted location (no land anywhere near) and the fact it suddenly lost communication and transmitted no mayday.
If it's a terrorist attack, the group responsible will probably take credit for it, right?
I've seen a few recent news reports of planes experiencing major turbulence.
Isn't it a bit early to try and say its terrorism related when they haven't even found the black box?
[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;50352145]I've seen a few recent news reports of planes experiencing major turbulence.
Isn't it a bit early to try and say its terrorism related when they haven't even found the black box?[/QUOTE]
Considering in the first post it says
[quote]Officials say the plane was more likely to have been brought down by a terrorist act than a technical fault.[/quote]
It's probably not too early.
[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;50352145]I've seen a few recent news reports of planes experiencing major turbulence.
Isn't it a bit early to try and say its terrorism related when they haven't even found the black box?[/QUOTE]
Turbulence does not cause explosions.
In this day and age, it is more likely to be terrorism than anything else and everybody knows it. We used to rule out mechanical issues and the like first before considering terrorism, and now it's the opposite.
According to AP they haven't found the wreckage, or at least only the Egyptians have found it:
[quote]A senior Greek air safety official says the debris found so far in the Mediterranean Sea does not belong to an aircraft.
An EgyptAir Airbus A320 crashed into the Mediterranean Sea early Thursday while carrying 66 passengers and crew from Paris to Cairo, and authorities have been scouring a wide area south of Crete to look for plane debris.
But Athanassios Binis, head of Greece's Air Accident Investigation and Aviation Safety Board, told state ERT TV that "an assessment of the finds showed that they do not belong to an aircraft." He says Thursday this has been confirmed by Egyptian authorities.
Greek military officials say a Greek C-130 military transport plane is still participating in the search for debris from the EgyptAir jet, but a frigate initially sent to the area has been recalled. The same officials say all potential debris located so far in the sea has been spotted by Egyptian aircraft.[/quote]
[url]http://bigstory.ap.org/article/fc727f93547b4f97b8813c1ea83c3da1/latest-no-distress-call-missing-egyptair-plane[/url]
[editline]19th May 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Smoot;50352166]Turbulence does not cause explosions.
In this day and age, it is more likely to be terrorism than anything else and everybody knows it. We used to rule out mechanical issues and the like first before considering terrorism, and now it's the opposite.[/QUOTE]
If you google it there are multiple sources that say that extreme turbulence can damage a plane.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;50352097][video=youtube;MiHVNx9NAuY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiHVNx9NAuY[/video][/QUOTE]
However, this has nothing to do with the incident.
I have read on several sites that it's the footage of a meteorite from several years ago.
What a goddamn shame. I hope they figure out who's responsible
[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;50352145]I've seen a few recent news reports of planes experiencing major turbulence.
Isn't it a bit early to try and say its terrorism related when they haven't even found the black box?[/QUOTE]
I will present Match of the day in my underpants if this isn't terrorism.
Why would someone sneak a bomb through the airport at Paris to blow up a plane on the way to nowhere
Like Paris itself is a much bigger target
[QUOTE=Sableye;50352280]Why would someone sneak a bomb through the airport at Paris to blow up a plane on the way to nowhere
Like Paris itself is a much bigger target[/QUOTE]
Another good question is why would you detonate it near the end of its flight? Surely a terrorist would value a bombing in paris/france way more than in the fucking ocean.
[QUOTE=Sableye;50352280]Why would someone sneak a bomb through the airport at Paris to blow up a plane on the way to nowhere
Like Paris itself is a much bigger target[/QUOTE]
Could have been a number of reasons faulty wiring/crew rushed them/etc , remember the Egyptian flight that blew up mid flight wasn't it bound for Russia.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268[/url]
blew up in the middle of nowhere, could be any reasons, too early to tell at this time.
[QUOTE=icarusfoundyou;50352178]
If you google it there are multiple sources that say that extreme turbulence can damage a plane.[/QUOTE]
Sure, but it doesn't destroy the plane so fast that the pilots have no time to call out a mayday, and also if it were turbulence then they would know from weather reports/other flights nearby. Considering people who've seen the wreck and are experienced say it looks like a terrorist, it's probably a terrorist.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;50352325]Could have been a number of reasons faulty wiring/crew rushed them/etc , remember the Egyptian flight that blew up mid flight wasn't it bound for Russia.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268[/url]
blew up in the middle of nowhere, could be any reasons, too early to tell at this time.[/QUOTE]
That was a pressure sensitive bomb though it went off once the plane reached altitude, this plane was at altitude the whole time, plus that plane came out of a really not secure airport
[QUOTE=Sableye;50352280]Why would someone sneak a bomb through the airport at Paris to blow up a plane on the way to nowhere
Like Paris itself is a much bigger target[/QUOTE]
Most likely if you blow up a shop in Paris you'll kill about 5-20 people, with a plane that's high up you're pretty much confirmed to kill 50+
The death toll of a single IED in a city will be less than the death toll of bringing an aircraft down in most cases.
Also, if the bomb isn't as effective, over Paris there are multiple airports in range, over the med they're fucked.
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