Lolicon is child pornography, and if you masturbate to it, you are a pedophile.

[Kombayn]

Let me preface this with a a little motivation behind this rant of mine. First off, this issue has not always been the problem it has been with me. No, I do not mean I once considered lolicon to separate from child pornography, nor does it mean I once considered those who masturbate to it to not be pedophiles. What I mean is that my need to say this has not been so strong before. See, I have seen people around here assume that simply because they were not at a certain age, they weren't pedophiles, even some more audaciously thought that the genre didn't even qualify as child pornography! Only recently, after stumbling into the posts of a certain part of the internet did I finally become enraged enough to complain.

First off, lolicon is child pornography. Now why do people debate this? I have no fucking clue, maybe they think that because it's drawn, it doesn't count. How does it not? It's the same body proportions in the same sexual situations, meant to illicit the same sexual attraction from whatever demographic they are aiming for. In effect and imagery, it's the exact same thing expect one uses a pencil and one uses a camera and a total disregard for moral responsibility.

Now some people still feel relatively secure in their belief they are not pedophiles, hell, they might be fifteen and they can pull out the "I'M NOT 18, I'M NOT A PEDO" argument. BULL SHIT. ALL OF IT. Let's go backwards a bit and start at square one of this issue.

What makes the conventional "attractive woman"? Well, two of the more prevalent features are a well-endowed chest area and wide hips. There are also all of those other things that some people consider, such as their own definition of an attractive face, which is beyond my realm of explanation. But referring back to the first statement, there are reasons that these are so. Large breasts (and you know I don't mean grotesquely, inhumanly large breasts), means that there is an ample supply of milk for a baby to feed on, meaning that a baby wouldn't starve. Then there are wide hips. Wide hips make it easier for a baby to develop and be delivered, there is function behind all of that. Sexual attraction to this by pubescent teenagers revolves around the same biological decisions as it does for a full-grown adult.

It would be foolish to think that simply because you haven't met some retarded legal age limit, you are not a pedophile, you experience a sexual attraction for the same reasons pedophiles above that certain age limit feel a similar attraction.

For those of you who actually believe that you aren't pedophiles despite the fact that masturbate to lolicon, quit deceiving yourselves, it's pissing me off.

[bearwrestler]

hentai and shit like that is for faggots

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[Ybbat]

Lolicon can only make you a pedophile if... it can't since they arn't real.

"lolicon is child pornography" you say, but the problem is, the only reason child porn is illegal is since it can give long term negative effects to the children in it plus it's nasty. Thus, since Lolicon is drawings, it isn't child pornography, plus you can't verify a childs age who is drawn.

<insert pedobear here>

[Karmah]

Lolicon =/= Child pornography

Seriously, If you don't do it in real life, you are not a pedo. It has hand drawn (or computer rendered), thus it is not child pornography, more like paper with 2 dimensional figures on it engaged in sexual acts.

[b]Edit:[/b]

If it is done by hands, it is made for :fap: something in your hands...

[shaunboy]

Any person that faps to loli is a potential pedophile

[j-richardson]

Would you rather have someone having sex with children or masturbating over it?

[Dummkopfs]

Get a girlfriend.

[Danny Lol]

OH GOD THEY'RE AFTER ME NOW.

[Karmah]

And it doesn't count as child pornography since children aren't involved. If no actual child has been taken pictures of, and slapped on it, it is not actually child pornography.

And besides, there aren't any babies in it, more like 20 year old girls turned into midgets with smaller breasts.

[pyrofiliac]

i thought lolicons were goth chicks that dressed up like wierd gothic maids and wished they were japanese

[shaunboy]

[QUOTE=pyrofiliac]i thought lolicons were goth chicks that dressed up like wierd gothic maids and wished they were japanese[/QUOTE]
That's gothic loli I believe

[Nebuch]

Yes, it is. How are you just now becoming aware of this? If you'd care to look up the definition of those two words anytime previously you'd have put this issue to rest. I don't know what you're expecting to find here...perhaps opposition? If so, you'll receive none from me as this is about as simply cut as a post detailing how cheese is made from milk and if you're eating cheese you're a milk-eater.

[GoreLeech]

[quote=bearwrestler]hentai and shit like that is for faggots [/quote]
Says the man that wrestles bears.

[Catdeamon]

There is no difference between paedophilia and other fetishes except that paedophiles who act on theirs cannot do so to a consenting individual and will cause considerable harm to them. This is also why bestiality is illegal. Child pornography involves the harm of children and it is rightly illegal. Lolicon harms nobody and is a viable outlet for these people's desires. For the record I find both quite disturbing.

[Aptann]

Masturbating to an image of a child, real or not, is wrong. Never, EVER think that you're doing something that's not wrong when doing it.

[The B óË ÁN]

This just in: drawing violent pictures is just as bad as actually murdering someone

[Missing User]

So a 15 year old boy who wants to see a 16 year old girl naked is a pedo. That's fucking retarded.

[dustyjo]

so I'm a pedo, oh well lol

[pyrofiliac]

[QUOTE=The B óË ÁN]This just in: drawing violent pictures is just as bad as actually murdering someone[/QUOTE]

in b 4 argument devolves into typical "ANIMEE IS FOUR PAEDOFILES"

[siberpredaht]

Your understanding of it is that being attracted to children is a bad thing

You are wrong, acting on this attraction is a bad thing

In this aspect, real child pornography exploits children - while lolicon does not hurt any one

[The B óË ÁN]

playing Grand Theft Auto is just as bad as being a real mafia drug lord

[pyrofiliac]

fapping to furry prons = bestiality

[KrAzY_nikomo]

I thought there's a law in U.S. that basically says "lolicon = pedoshit even though it's not".

[GreenDolphin]

[QUOTE=Kombayn]Let me preface this with a a little motivation behind this rant of mine. First off, this issue has not always been the problem it has been with me. No, I do not mean I once considered lolicon to separate from child pornography, nor does it mean I once considered those who masturbate to it to not be pedophiles. What I mean is that my need to say this has not been so strong before. See, I have seen people around here assume that simply because they were not at a certain age, they weren't pedophiles, even some more audaciously thought that the genre didn't even qualify as child pornography! Only recently, after stumbling into the posts of a certain part of the internet did I finally become enraged enough to complain.

First off, lolicon is child pornography. Now why do people debate this? I have no fucking clue, maybe they think that because it's drawn, it doesn't count. How does it not? It's the same body proportions in the same sexual situations, meant to illicit the same sexual attraction from whatever demographic they are aiming for. In effect and imagery, it's the exact same thing expect one uses a pencil and one uses a camera and a total disregard for moral responsibility.

Now some people still feel relatively secure in their belief they are not pedophiles, hell, they might be fifteen and they can pull out the "I'M NOT 18, I'M NOT A PEDO" argument. BULL SHIT. ALL OF IT. Let's go backwards a bit and start at square one of this issue.

What makes the conventional "attractive woman"? Well, two of the more prevalent features are a well-endowed chest area and wide hips. There are also all of those other things that some people consider, such as their own definition of an attractive face, which is beyond my realm of explanation. But referring back to the first statement, there are reasons that these are so. Large breasts (and you know I don't mean grotesquely, inhumanly large breasts), means that there is an ample supply of milk for a baby to feed on, meaning that a baby wouldn't starve. Then there are wide hips. Wide hips make it easier for a baby to develop and be delivered, there is function behind all of that. Sexual attraction to this by pubescent teenagers revolves around the same biological decisions as it does for a full-grown adult.

It would be foolish to think that simply because you haven't met some retarded legal age limit, you are not a pedophile, you experience a sexual attraction for the same reasons pedophiles above that certain age limit feel a similar attraction.

For those of you who actually believe that you aren't pedophiles despite the fact that masturbate to lolicon, quit deceiving yourselves, it's pissing me off.[/QUOTE]

Or maybe they're just people who jack off to drawings?

[pyrofiliac]

video games = real life

illustrations = real life

:downs:

[trey_awsome]

[QUOTE=Wulfin]So a 15 year old boy who wants to see a 16 year old girl naked is a pedo. That's fucking retarded.[/QUOTE]
So if a 16 year old girl sends her 16 year old boyfriend a naked picture of herself, does that make the boy a pedo? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

[PacificV2]

Check the legal definition of child pornography for a quick way to bring your OP down like a burning castle made of rocks.

[chris0132]

Yes it's child pornography, and it's pedophillia to be attracted to it.

But as it doesn't actually harm any children, I fail to see the issue with it.

If people control their urges and don't do anything that actually harms people I cannot in good conscience punish them for it.

[Karmah]

Considering these lolis are like:

[B]I know every sexual position know to man! I'm going to give you a blow job with my TITS, BAAAAAAAWW![/B]

Seriously, there is no stopping stuff being done on computers.

Although I don't get off to lolis, I still think it's crazy that people think it's child pornography.

It's more like, Virtual world animated Hentai. If the virtual world doesn't have laws, It's won't consider it that :downs:

[ryandaniels]

You're kinda dumb.

There [B]IS[/B] a difference. It's quite obvious. In child porn, REAL kids are abused and exploited. In lolicon, no child is harmed.

Now, if you want to argue lolicon [B]leads[/B] to actually bad things, fine. But don't try to argue that it's the same thing as CP; you're just saying that because you are being prejudiced.