British MPs vote 274-12 to call for recognition of Palestine - Polidicks

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29596822[/url] [quote]MPs have voted by 274 to 12 in favour of recognising Palestine as a state alongside Israel. The House of Commons backed the move "as a contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution". The vote is symbolic but could have international implications. Government ministers abstained in the vote, and Middle East Minister Tobias Ellwood said Britain reserved the right to recognise Palestine when it is "appropriate for the peace process".[/quote]

12 British MPs should be ashamed of themselves

Id probably like the average Israeli person better than the average Palestinian. But this whole, Speak no ill about israel/speak no good about palestine, shit really fucking disgusts me.

So where were all the other MP's?

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46225110]12 British MPs should be ashamed of themselves[/QUOTE] UKIPs policy supports Israel from what I hear. You may find UKIP's new MP voted against it.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46225141]Id probably like the average Israeli person better than the average Palestinian. [/QUOTE] why?

[QUOTE=Thom12255;46225176]So where were all the other MP's?[/QUOTE] All the frontbenchers abstained for a start

Good. No reason not to.

[QUOTE=Sokrates;46225235]why?[/QUOTE] Israel contributes more science than the entire islamic world combined for instance.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46225751]Israel contributes more science than the entire islamic world combined for instance.[/QUOTE] lol wtf

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46225751]Israel contributes more science than the entire islamic world combined for instance.[/QUOTE] So much wrong with that. For starters, you don't even have to be Muslim to come from Palestine.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46225751]Israel contributes more science than the entire islamic world combined for instance.[/QUOTE] Take a look at the entire Middle Ages please

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;46225867]Take a look at the entire Middle Ages please[/QUOTE] There hasn't been a single person that won a Nobel prize in anything from the Arab world. While the ratio between the amount of Israeli-born people to the amount of Nobel prizes is pretty high. This has however nothing to do with recognizing a country.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46225141]Id probably like the average Israeli person better than the average Palestinian. But this whole, Speak no ill about israel/speak no good about palestine, shit really fucking disgusts me.[/QUOTE] What does that mean?

[QUOTE=laserguided;46225975]What does that mean?[/QUOTE] "Progressive"-ism

[QUOTE=nataS;46225978]"Progressive"-ism[/QUOTE] This post is literally meaningless

[QUOTE=Kommodore;46225995]This post is literally meaningless[/QUOTE] This post is literally meaningless

nice

[QUOTE=nataS;46226002]This post is literally meaningless[/QUOTE] This post is literally meaningless

[QUOTE=nataS;46225969]There hasn't been a single person that won a Nobel prize in anything from the Arab world. While the ratio between the amount of Israeli-born people to the amount of Nobel prizes is pretty high. This has however nothing to do with recognizing a country.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_Nobel_laureates[/url]

[QUOTE=nataS;46225969]There hasn't been a single person that won a Nobel prize in anything from the Arab world.[/QUOTE] See: [QUOTE=Poben;46226183][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_Nobel_laureates[/url][/QUOTE] Also, keep in mind that Nobel prizes are not awarded posthumously (with some exceptions in extreme circumstances). For example, we owe [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals"]our entire numeric system[/URL] to "the Arab world". [QUOTE=nataS;46225969]While the ratio between the amount of Israeli-born people to the amount of Nobel prizes is pretty high.[/QUOTE] That sentence makes absolutely no sense. [QUOTE=nataS;46225969]This has however nothing to do with recognizing a country.[/QUOTE] At least you're right on one front.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46225110]12 British MPs should be ashamed of themselves[/QUOTE] Antisemite!

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46225751]Israel contributes more science than the entire islamic world combined for instance.[/QUOTE] You know, ever since you started posting here in SH more frequently, I just knew you were a racist and discriminatory moron. You want to talk about Islamic contributions to science? Lets talk about this little thing called the Islamic empire. Notable contributions: (Not even close to a complete list) [B]Medical:[/B] Hospitals with required licenses for doctors 24 hour hospitals that were also unable to turn away those who couldn't pay. "...The hospital shall keep all patients, men and women, until they are completely recovered. All costs are to be borne by the hospital whether the people come from afar or near, whether they are residents or foreigners, strong or weak, low or high, rich or poor, employed or unemployed, blind or sighted, physically or mentally ill, learned or illiterate. There are no conditions of consideration and payment, none is objected to or even indirectly hinted at for non-payment." Ibn al-Nafis, a medical scientist who discovered that all the blood that reached the left ventricle did so after passing through the lung, and that there must be small communications or pores between the pulmonary artery and pulmonary vein. The first forms of surgery, including cataract removal [B]Education:[/B] University of Al Karaouine, the oldest degree giving university Vast libraries of scholars and scribes who worked diligently to record knowledge. (the most famous being the Library of Alexandria.) [B]Physics: [/B]Abd al-Rahman al-Sufi is credited with the first recorded observation of the Andromeda Galaxy [B]Math:[/B] The invention of the Law of Sines, pretty much most of modern high-level mathmatics. Oh and did I even get to mention art and architecture yet? Oh, you know, the complex geometric patterns that line many old churches and buildings in Spain (which at one point was part of the Islamic empire.) You want to know what your glorious Christians were doing at this time? Dicking about in their own filth in a time known as the dark ages. We can play this game all day mate.

[QUOTE=Snowmew;46226234]See: Also, keep in mind that Nobel prizes are not awarded posthumously (with some exceptions in extreme circumstances). For example, we owe [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals"]our entire numeric system[/URL] to "the Arab world". That sentence makes absolutely no sense. At least you're right on one front.[/QUOTE] He was talking about the Sciences, there's 1 guy in chemistry and 1 guy in physics both are a more than a decade old. The Arab world is fucking huge man, and I'm obviously talking about modern times. Whatever scientific history they once had, it's long gone and will probably not recover. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates[/url]

[QUOTE=nataS;46226313] Whatever scientific history they once had, it's long gone and will probably not recover. [/QUOTE] Just like how Europe didn't recover from the plunge into the Dark ages huh?

the western world uses a metric ass-ton of mathematical material that originates from medieval islam, so it is anything *but* 'long-gone'. no scratch that, the entire world pretty much.

[QUOTE=nataS;46226313]He was talking about the Sciences, there's 1 guy in chemistry and 1 guy in physics both are a more than a decade old. The Arab world is fucking huge man, and I'm obviously talking about modern times. Whatever scientific history they once had, it's long gone and will probably not recover. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_Nobel_laureates[/url][/QUOTE] what have you contributed?

[QUOTE=draugur;46226334]Just like how Europe didn't recover from the plunge into the Dark ages huh?[/QUOTE] I really hope it recovers man, but the way things are going they probably won't. Unless they decide to drop the book and go towards technological innovation, the future looks very irrelevant in terms of scientific innovation. [editline]13th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Bobie;46226353]what have you contributed?[/QUOTE] I'm currently in the process of a getting a biomedical engineering degree, and I'm hoping to get a Nobel prize one day. That already shows more than most people, but how is this relevant?

[QUOTE=nataS;46226354]I really hope it recovers man, but the way things are going they probably won't. Unless they decide to drop the book and go towards technological innovation, the future looks very irrelevant in terms of scientific innovation. [editline]13th October 2014[/editline] I'm currently studying biomedical engineering, and I'm hoping to get a Nobel prize one day. That already show more than most people, but how is this relevant?[/QUOTE] so your scientific contribution amounts to uh.. nothing?

[QUOTE=nataS;46226354]I really hope it recovers man, but the way things are going they probably won't. Unless they decide to drop the book and go towards technological innovation, the future looks very irrelevant in terms of scientific innovation.[/QUOTE] People said the same thing about Europe during the dark ages. It recovered just fine. Europe literally plunged from being mostly part of the large Roman Empire, to being a collection of roaming barbarians and feudal lords in the span of about 500 years, which lasted until around the collapse of the Islamic empire. The Middle East is essentially experiencing their dark ages right now, it'll recover. Just as it took Europe many hundreds of years, it may well take the Middle East a few hundred years, maybe less, we don't know. Modern technology can accelerate many things that once took hundreds of years to a few decades.