Teenage girl admits making up migrant rape claim that outraged Germany
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Source: [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/31/teenage-girl-made-up-migrant-claim-that-caused-uproar-in-germany[/url]
[QUOTE]A 13-year-old Russian-German girl has admitted making up a story about being kidnapped and raped by migrants in a case that triggered a furore in [URL="http://www.theguardian.com/world/germany"]Germany[/URL] and briefly embroiled Berlin police in a spat with the Kremlin, state prosecutors said.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The parents of the teenager, named only as Lisa, reported her missing on 11 January after she failed to appear at school in the Marzahn district of the capital. She reappeared 30 hours later with injuries on her face, and told her parents she had been attacked by men of Middle Eastern or north African appearance. News of the incident spread on social media, sparking outrage among Berlin’s Russian-German community.[/QUOTE]
Scum, absolute scum
Of the many wacky, unorthodox excuses for missing school that I've heard over the years.. Rape by migrants is definitely the [I]least[/I] wacky.
Why do I get the feeling that this was likely her parents' doing? I can't really see a 13-year-old being all that interested in fabricating a rape claim to persuade the public view of Middle Eastern people in a negative direction, let alone going so far as to "go missing" and inflict injuries on herself. Although the article is a bit of a stub so I'm probably missing some key elements of the story.
Scummy people regardless of which scenario happened, though.
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;49647748]Why do I get the feeling that this was likely her parents' doing? I can't really see a 13-year-old being all that interested in fabricating a rape claim to persuade the public view of Middle Eastern people in a negative direction, let alone going so far as to "go missing" and inflict injuries on herself. Although the article is a bit of a stub so I'm probably missing some key elements of the story.
Scummy people regardless of which scenario happened, though.[/QUOTE]
She made up the rape claim to get out of getting in trouble for skipping school, not because she was trying to change people's views on Middle-Easterners. She probably saw it as a good excuse nobody would question because they were already pissed at them.
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;49647772]She made up the rape claim to get out of getting in trouble for skipping school, not because she was trying to change people's views on Middle-Easterners. She probably saw it as a good excuse nobody would question because they were already pissed at them.[/QUOTE]
This is probably the most likely scenario.
I have very little time for people who are willing to compound lies - I hope she made a statement under oath or in an affidavit or something so they can be some sort of repercussion.
Her actions, malicious or not, have led to the news yesterday of a hand grenade getting thrown into a shelter.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;49647809]
I have very little time for people who are willing to compound lies - I hope she made a statement under oath or in an affidavit or something so they can be some sort of repercussion.
Her actions, malicious or not, have led to the news yesterday of a hand grenade getting thrown into a shelter.[/QUOTE]
That's why she had a breakdown, confessed, and is currently in a psychiatric ward. Do you think 13 y/os would think that far ahead?
Why don't they bring out the cane for malicious liars like her?
[editline]1st February 2016[/editline]
Her lies have enabled right wing fascists, she needs to be barred from any employment for the rest of her life.
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And to the left, we can see people advocate beating a 13-year old girl with a cane for lying about the sweet, innocent migrants who can do no wrong
What people fail to realize is that this was never a case of "evil teenage girl tries to slander refugees" and more "Russian media spins vague statements from teenage girl to paint Germany in a bad light"
[QUOTE=FightTheHate;49647945]Why don't they bring out the cane for malicious liars like her?
[editline]1st February 2016[/editline]
Her lies have enabled right wing fascists, she needs to be barred from any employment for the rest of her life.[/QUOTE]
She's 13. It's likely she doesn't know what "right wing" even means.
God damnit, this is why people need to start investigating these claims.
It's innocent until proven Guilty.
Investigation is required to prove that the person is guilty.
Too many times have shit heads like this girl ruined lives, this girl nearly got people killed (I am assuming nearly, but if she did, wow)
Fucking disgusting.
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;49647957]She's 13. It's likely she doesn't know what "right wing" even means.[/QUOTE]
Ignore him, he's either astoundingly stupid, pathetically edgy, or trolling. 1 post, name is "Fight The Hate", signed up literally minutes ago...
Whew lad,This is gonna get interesting
... did they do any medical examination at all?
[QUOTE=Limed00d;49647977]... did they do any medical examination at all?[/QUOTE]
I was just thinking this. I'm no expert on, well, rapes, but I'm pretty sure they offer the victim medical treatment and examination, right? Or did she just refuse them in this instance?
[QUOTE=Limed00d;49647977]... did they do any medical examination at all?[/QUOTE]
Judging from the article where it says news outlets made the mood worse due to the family stating that no investigation has taken place, I would assume not as a Medical Examination would take place during investigation.
[QUOTE=FightTheHate;49647945]Why don't they bring out the cane for malicious liars like her?
[editline]1st February 2016[/editline]
Her lies have enabled right wing fascists, she needs to be barred from any employment for the rest of her life.[/QUOTE]
Ahh, yes, let's totally ruin her entire fucking life because of a stupid lie. What a way to ensure she changes, by making it so the only way she can ever survive is either crime or marrying into money. BRILLIANT!
[QUOTE=l337k1ll4;49647772]She made up the rape claim to get out of getting in trouble for skipping school, not because she was trying to change people's views on Middle-Easterners. She probably saw it as a good excuse nobody would question because they were already pissed at them.[/QUOTE]
Fair point, looks like my read-o-meter is broken.
[QUOTE=TestECull;49648102]Ahh, yes, let's totally ruin her entire fucking life because of a stupid lie. What a way to ensure she changes, by making it so the only way she can ever survive is either crime or marrying into money. BRILLIANT![/QUOTE]
She's 13 so she shouldn't be ruined over this but for an adult this should be something that ruins you.
[QUOTE]
Yet the allegations caused uproar in Berlin, particularly after reports of mass sexual assaults allegedly carried out by migrants in Cologne.[/QUOTE]
Please don't use this girl to invalidate real victims of abuse at the hands of migrants.
I'm curious what the regressive left will say to this. On one hand they like to pretend that no-one makes false rape claims, on the other hand it's against migrants.
Oh boy
she has blood on her hands now, probably gunna be at least a little fucked up in the head for life if she wasn't already
I feel bad but also not
[QUOTE=download;49648195]I'm curious what the regressive left will say to this. On one hand they like to pretend that no-one makes false rape claims, on the other hand it's against migrants.[/QUOTE]
The cologne attack really divided the far left and feminists. Some shamed the victims while others others got outraged about the victim blaming.
This will probably have people forsaking their values in the name of being against racism (not about race but what ever).
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;49648262]The cologne attack really divided the far left and feminists. Some shamed the victims while others others got outraged about the victim blaming.
This will probably have people forsaking their values in the name of being against racism (not about race but what ever).[/QUOTE]
No it didn't. Not here in Germany.
Just saw a report on this (before the girl decided to confess). Russian media is trying to manipulate Russians in Germany that migrants/refugees are taking over and that no woman is safe on the streets anymore and they focus this around a woman (I'm not sure if it's the same one) who claims one of her friends was raped and murdered at a refugee center, and it was later proven that she neither knew anyone from said refugee center, nor did anybody get raped or murdered.
Putin is trying to undermine Merkel and distract from his country's problems – it won't really do anything against our government, but it definitely doesn't help the tensions. He just needs to fuck off and work on fixing his own problems. Whether or not this girl was encouraged to do so by Russian propaganda I don't know, hope not, but it makes you think.
[QUOTE=Selek;49648627]Just saw a report on this (before the girl decided to confess). Russian media is trying to manipulate Russians in Germany that migrants/refugees are taking over and that no woman is safe on the streets anymore and they focus this around a woman (I'm not sure if it's the same one) who claims one of her friends was raped and murdered at a refugee center, and it was later proven that she neither knew anyone from said refugee center, nor did anybody get raped or murdered.
Putin is trying to undermine Merkel and distract from his country's problems – it won't really do anything against our government, but it definitely doesn't help the tensions. He just needs to fuck off and work on fixing his own problems. Whether or not this girl was encouraged to do so by Russian propaganda I don't know, hope not, but it makes you think.[/QUOTE]
Got any sources that corroborate and substantiate those claims?
[QUOTE=download;49648195]I'm curious what the regressive left will say to this. On one hand they like to pretend that no-one makes false rape claims, on the other hand it's against migrants.[/QUOTE]
I wondered what the right would say to this. On one hand it feeds into the belief that many rapes claims are false, on the other hand it makes immigrants/refugees look like the victims.
[QUOTE=Matthew0505;49648755]For so called anti-racists they sure love to use evil Russians as boogeymen a lot.[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between criticising a government and all people in a country.
He did not talk about "the russians"
Did you notice that?
Also who is "they"? Everyone but "us"?
[QUOTE=axelord157;49648728]I wondered what the right would say to this. On one hand it feeds into the belief that many rapes claims are false, on the other hand it makes immigrants/refugees look like the victims.[/QUOTE]
That would also be interesting to see.
[QUOTE=Bradyns;49648653]Got any sources that corroborate and substantiate those claims?[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the source (The Insider) is legit because it has often been used by big media, but have to use Google Translate because it's in Russian:
[url]https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftheins.ru%2Fpolitika%2F19217&edit-text=&act=url[/url]
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