• Gingrich: Children of poor families are lazy, should be put to work
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[url]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/02/gingrich-children-of-poor-families-are-lazy-should-be-put-to-work/[/url] [quote] Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA), now [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/gingrich-tells-abc-news-im-going-to-be-the-nominee/"]seemingly the Republican party’s new frontrunner[/URL] for their presidential nomination, took rhetorical aim on Thursday at an all new threat to America’s economy, one that’s been with us all along: lazy children of poor families. Speaking to a crowd in Iowa yesterday, Gingrich for the second time in recent weeks called for child labor laws to be repealed. “Really poor children, in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works so they have no habit of showing up on Monday,” he insisted. “They have no habit of staying all day, they have no habit of I do this and you give me cash, unless it is illegal.” Speaking at Harvard University’s Kennedy School last month, Gingrich [URL="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/20/gingrich-proposes-replacing-janitors-with-9-year-old-kids-gets-mic-checked-by-occupy-boston/"]made a similar statement[/URL], telling an audience that putting children to work at low wage jobs “is something that no liberal wants to deal with.” “It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid,” he went on to say. “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school,” Gingrich ultimately suggested. “The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.” He also [URL="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/19/gingrich-go-get-a-job-right-after-you-take-a-bath/"]recently suggested[/URL] that protesters who are occupying their various cities should “go get a job right after you take a bath.” Unemployment figures published Friday by the Labor Department showed that while the jobless rate is improving, [URL="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/02/jobless-rate-drops-but-so-do-hourly-earnings/"]down to 8.6 percent[/URL], hourly wages are also declining, while the number of temporary jobs has increased. While the declining unemployment rate is at its lowest figure in nearly two years, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics said that just 120,000 new jobs were created in November. Meanwhile, over 13.3 million Americans are still unemployed. Other data showed that for people who are out of work, [URL="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/01/BUOT1M70LE.DTL"]it is much harder to get a new job[/URL] than it is for the currently employed.[/quote] Video in the source too.
Fuck enjoying youth years, too work with you, to jobs that may not exist!
Not growing up in a strong work ethic environment probably has [I]some[/I] negative effects but I really can't agree with such a broad, pessimistic generalization like that at all.
And Republican Presidential candidates and nominees who happily support backwards, inhumane, and fucking stupid policies should be smacked any time they look at another human being.
Easier said than done.
He didn't say they're lazy, he's saying that due to child labour laws, children can't get jobs and don't develop a work ethic until later in life. Don't kids show up for school on Monday and stay at school all day? His argument is a bit flawed there. And lots of schools have school lunch programs that lets students work in the kitchens to pay for it, so why not extend that to other departments?
I actually really like that school janitorial idea, but the rest is a pile of shiat.
Didn't we stop this for a reason, you know, like a hundred years ago?
[QUOTE=Master X;33537243]I actually really like that school janitorial idea, but the rest is a pile of shiat.[/QUOTE] Well then the janitors can clean the pile up :v:
Fuck work ethic. I'm a lazy bitch, and I'm proud of it! [editline]2nd December 2011[/editline] And I'm not even from a poor family
So... many... things... wrong with this. My brain hurts now.
And that makes spoiled rich kids what? If a poor kid is lazy, then a spoiled rich kid who's not worked for a thing in his life is lazy beyond comprehension.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI4tp9ZMERI[/media]
I think what he's trying to say is to lower the minimum age before your allowed to start working, he just worded it like a complete idiot
[QUOTE=viperfan7;33537498]I think what he's trying to say is to lower the minimum age before your allowed to start working, he just worded it like a complete idiot[/QUOTE] I honestly don't see a problem with the way it is now. You can mow lawns and babysit at a fairly young age; I don't know how young though. And there's no point in getting a "real job" until you're 16 anyway when you can drive yourself to work rather than having your parents haul you around.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;33537531]I honestly don't see a problem with the way it is now. You can mow lawns and babysit at a fairly young age; I don't know how young though. And there's no point in getting a "real job" until you're 16 anyway when you can drive yourself to work rather than having your parents haul you around.[/QUOTE] Licenses at 16 are very restrictive though. Pointing that out.
We could also try to change this problem from another angle. We wouldn't have so many poor if A) There were enough jobs to be had, and B) minimum wage actually provided a wage you could survive on. In America, you would have to work TWO minimum-wage jobs at 80 hours a week, and you'd still be making less than $30,000 a year. Of course, there are plenty of other factors at work here, but those are (arguably) two of the larger issues.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;33537370]And that makes spoiled rich kids what?[/QUOTE]A true, red blooded American. [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/emoot/patriot.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;33537545]Licenses at 16 are very restrictive though. Pointing that out.[/QUOTE] At least in my state, Illinois, the only restrictions I remember was like you couldn't have a bunch of friends in the car for the first 6 months, and there was a curfew at around midnight to 6am which applied until you were 18 I believe. I had a job at a grocery store when I was 16, and I drove by myself obviously so the first point didn't apply, and the store closed at 9pm, so the curfew wasn't a problem. Having a job where you get off before midnight is not a big deal at all.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;33537219]He didn't say they're lazy, he's saying that due to child labour laws, children can't get jobs and don't develop a work ethic until later in life. Don't kids show up for school on Monday and stay at school all day? His argument is a bit flawed there. And lots of schools have school lunch programs that lets students work in the kitchens to pay for it, so why not extend that to other departments?[/QUOTE] I don't get why he feels that you don't develop a work ethic until you are earning money from a job. Work ethic starts at the very beginning of any cognitive learning; it can be seen in kids who excel and work hard from the very beginning of their education. Hell, I have a great work ethic and I attribute it to the way I was raised, not by a minimum wage job.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;33537613]At least in my state, Illinois, the only restrictions I remember was like you couldn't have a bunch of friends in the car for the first 6 months, and there was a curfew at around midnight to 6am which applied until you were 18 I believe. I had a job at a grocery store when I was 16, and I drove by myself obviously so the first point didn't apply, and the store closed at 9pm, so the curfew wasn't a problem. Having a job where you get off before midnight is not a big deal at all.[/QUOTE]I know that here in Alabama, the only restriction is no more than one other passenger under the age of 18 can ride with you for the first six months. Other than that, there are none. Some places, like Jefferson County, have curfews for anyone under 18 without a guardian, but that has nothing to do with driving and more to do with the fact that Birmingham is a genuinely dangerous place to be and for some reason, the idiot teens from Homewood and Mountain Brook like to stay out late and cause problems.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;33537613]At least in my state, Illinois, the only restrictions I remember was like you couldn't have a bunch of friends in the car for the first 6 months, and there was a curfew at around midnight to 6am which applied until you were 18 I believe. I had a job at a grocery store when I was 16, and I drove by myself obviously so the first point didn't apply, and the store closed at 9pm, so the curfew wasn't a problem. Having a job where you get off before midnight is not a big deal at all.[/QUOTE] My state, New Jersey, has come up with this idiotic "tag" system. If you're 20 or younger, you have to put this bright red sticker thing on your license plate to alert the police that you are an "inexperienced driver". Police are more likely to stop you now because they know you're more likely to fuck up in someway. And they charge you for the stickers too, of course. People around here call them "pedo tags".
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;33537672]My state, New Jersey, has come up with this idiotic "tag" system. If you're 20 or younger, you have to put this bright red sticker thing on your license plate to alert the police that you are an "inexperienced driver". Police are more likely to stop you now because they know you're more likely to fuck up in someway. And they charge you for the stickers too, of course. People around here call them "pedo tags".[/QUOTE]That sounds more like a New Jersey problem than anything. It is New Jersey.
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;33537694]That sounds more like a New Jersey problem than anything. It is New Jersey.[/QUOTE] My state has [I]some[/I] good qualities! Like...uh...um....uh....Fuck it, I want to move out
Oh please, my family is middle class and I'm still lazy.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;33537531]I honestly don't see a problem with the way it is now. You can mow lawns and babysit at a fairly young age; I don't know how young though. And there's no point in getting a "real job" until you're 16 anyway when you can drive yourself to work rather than having your parents haul you around.[/QUOTE] Nowadays it's actually pretty hard to get a job mowing lawns as a kid, at least around here. Now that the economy's in the tank (and even before then) it's adults who have taken to "landscaping" in droves, leaving kids with a mower and a can of gas and nothing to do with them.
[quote]“Really poor children, in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and have nobody around them who works so they have no habit of showing up on Monday,” he insisted. “They have no habit of staying all day, they have no habit of I do this and you give me cash, [b]unless it is illegal.[/b]”[/quote] Fat cunt says the stupidest things
I hope someone slits his throat and pours salt into his lungs.
‎"Lazy" the new Republican buzzword. Maybe Gingrich should be put to work because he's to lazy to think up new material. Asshole.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;33538880]Nowadays it's actually pretty hard to get a job mowing lawns as a kid, at least around here. Now that the economy's in the tank (and even before then) it's adults who have taken to "landscaping" in droves, leaving kids with a mower and a can of gas and nothing to do with them.[/QUOTE] Where I live kids never mowed lawns because our cities have apartment buildings and no one has lawns to mow.
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