Pope, Vatican publish article condemning Trump & Catholic Steve Bannon for 'apocalyptic geopolitics' - Polidicks

[quote]An explosive article written by [B]two close associates of Pope Francis has accused Steve Bannon, the chief White House strategist, of espousing an “apocalyptic geopolitics” whose roots are “not too far apart” from that of Islamist extremism.[/B] The article in La Civiltà Cattolica, which is vetted by the Vatican before publication, [B]lays out a scathing critique of “evangelical fundamentalism” in the US, arguing that, on issues ranging from climate change to “migrants and Muslims”, proponents of the ideology have adopted a twisted reading of scripture and the Old Testament that promotes conflict and war above all else.[/B] The piece was published just days after evangelical leaders met US president Donald Trump in the Oval Office of the White House and “laid hands” on him in prayer following discussions about religious freedom, support for Israel and healthcare reform. Vatican experts said [B]the article would have had the explicit backing of the church and Pope Francis.[/B] Its authors, Antonio Spadaro, the editor-in-chief of the publication, and Marcelo Figueroa, the editor-in-chief of the Argentinian edition of the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano, are known as confidantes of theArgentinian pope. Bannon, the former editor of the rightwing Breitbart news website, is Catholic, and while he is only briefly mentioned in the article, the piece undoubtedly takes aim at the Trump White House. --- [B]“Rushdoony’s doctrine maintains a theocratic necessity: submit the state to the Bible with a logic that is no different from the one that inspires Islamic fundamentalism.[/B] At heart, the narrative of terror shapes the worldviews of jihadists and the new crusaders and is imbibed from wells that are not too far apart,” the authors state. “We must not forget that the theopolitics spread by Isis is based on the same cult of an apocalypse that needs to be brought about as soon as possible.”[/quote] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/13/pope-associates-criticize-american-evangelicals-extremism[/url]

This is probably going to have Evangelicals fuming.

This is no surprise in coming, and it's going to be a slap in the face of the useless orange considering how merrily he walked away from his promises of "no more intervention."

If the Pope really means it he should excommunicate Bannon.

[QUOTE=download;52467029]If the Pope really means it he should excommunicate Bannon.[/QUOTE] That isn't how excommunication works. He would have to have done something grave, specific, and in a spiritual manner in regards to the Church in order to be excommunicated. The Pope nor the church excommunicates just anyone.

It's not as if the Vatican themselves are entirely trustworthy, come on... [url]https://www.enterthebible.org/Controls/feature/tool_etb_resource_display/resourcebox.aspx?selected_rid=218&original_id=66[/url]

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;52467086]It's not as if the Vatican themselves are entirely trustworthy, come on...[/QUOTE] I trust the Pope a lot more than I trust the President, and I'm an Atheist.

[QUOTE=New Cidem;52467088]I trust the Pope a lot more than I trust the President, and I'm an Atheist.[/QUOTE] It would be wise to trust neither (and I'm not an Atheist).

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;52467089]It would be wise to trust neither (and I'm not an Atheist).[/QUOTE] Im pretty athiest, but I still respect this pope by quite a bit due to all the positive reforms hes been pushing. Hes not perfect, but certainly a leap foward in the right direction

[quote], proponents of the ideology have adopted a twisted reading of scripture and the Old Testament that promotes conflict and war above all else.[/quote] This is what I constantly told to that Pim Fortyn fanatic and a lot of the other "Islam= Spawn of Hell" guys back in the refugee crisis threads. Same ideology and thinking as ISIS, just raised in a different surrounding.

[QUOTE=download;52467029]If the Pope really means it he should excommunicate Bannon.[/QUOTE] There's no point in excommunicating someone from a different sect of Christianity.

[QUOTE=Aredbomb;52467161]There's no point in excommunicating someone from a different sect of Christianity.[/QUOTE] Not only is it in the OP, but it's in the damn title: Bannon is Catholic [editline]14th July 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=ph:lxyz;52467086]It's not as if the Vatican themselves are entirely trustworthy, come on... [url]https://www.enterthebible.org/Controls/feature/tool_etb_resource_display/resourcebox.aspx?selected_rid=218&original_id=66[/url][/QUOTE] :what:

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;52467086]It's not as if the Vatican themselves are entirely trustworthy, come on... [url]https://www.enterthebible.org/Controls/feature/tool_etb_resource_display/resourcebox.aspx?selected_rid=218&original_id=66[/url][/QUOTE] The Pope is catholic. He believes in the bible. The bible has this passage that makes him untrustworthy. Bannon is catholic. He believes in the bible. The bible has this passage that WHOAH nevermind.

[QUOTE=New Cidem;52467088]I trust the Pope a lot more than I trust the President, and I'm an Atheist.[/QUOTE] Well Pope is not a politican. I wouldn't trust him when it comes to politics simply because Pope probably can't think like politican. Of course Trump also underestimates climate changes.

[QUOTE=Knurr;52467680]Well Pope is not a politican. I wouldn't trust him when it comes to politics simply because Pope probably can't think like politican. Of course Trump also underestimates climate changes.[/QUOTE] The pope often meets with other heads of states often and the Vatican often publishes articles, like this one in the OP, in regard to the world's affairs. It would be ignorant to say the Pope "can't think like a politician". He knows politics all too well, I would say.

[QUOTE=Knurr;52467680]Well Pope is not a politican. I wouldn't trust him when it comes to politics simply because Pope probably can't think like politican.[/QUOTE] I'd rather my politicians didn't think like politicians and more like men

[QUOTE=Knurr;52467680]Well Pope is not a politican. I wouldn't trust him when it comes to politics simply because Pope probably can't think like politican. Of course Trump also underestimates climate changes.[/QUOTE] to be honest the fact that he can't "think like a politician", assuming that's even true, makes him more trustworthy in my book.

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;52467089]It would be wise to trust neither (and I'm not an Atheist).[/QUOTE] Judging by your post history I'm not sure I want to align my beliefs with yours either. I think I'll take the pope on this one, sorry.

I'm not asking anyone to align their beliefs with mine. Nowadays it seems to be somehow controversial to believe in Christ while not accepting the authority of the Vatican. (Unless of course you're a protestant, I guess). Anyway. The point is, human beings are normally fallable. Pope, President, you, me, the people who penned the holy book or otherwise.

[QUOTE=Knurr;52467680]Well Pope is not a politican. I wouldn't trust him when it comes to politics simply because Pope probably can't think like politican. Of course Trump also underestimates climate changes.[/QUOTE] The Pope has always been a political position even if he isn't a politician.

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;52468257]I'm not asking anyone to align their beliefs with mine. Nowadays it seems to be somehow controversial to believe in Christ while not accepting the authority of the Vatican. (Unless of course you're a protestant, I guess). Anyway. The point is, human beings are normally fallable. Pope, President, you, me, the people who penned the holy book or otherwise.[/QUOTE] I would argue that it's not controversial at all to be Christian and not Catholic today. If there were ever a time when it was controversial, it was in the 1500s, not now. Your post is very confusing.

[QUOTE=ph:lxyz;52468257]I'm not asking anyone to align their beliefs with mine. Nowadays it seems to be somehow controversial to believe in Christ while not accepting the authority of the Vatican. (Unless of course you're a protestant, I guess). Anyway. The point is, human beings are normally fallable. Pope, President, you, me, the people who penned the holy book or otherwise.[/QUOTE] Is this a roundabout way of saying "Trust no one, not even yourself"?