Fox News Propaganda Causes Another Person to Unjustly Lose Their Job
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[quote]The woman ousted from the Agriculture Department over racially tinged remarks that sparked a firestorm in the media said she was uncertain if she would return to her job if invited back.
[B]On Monday, Shirley Sherrod resigned from a senior position with the USDA in Georgia after edited video clips surfaced appearing to show her admitting to racial bias toward a white farmer.[/B]
However, when the full video of her speech at an NAACP event was made public, the civil rights group retracted a previous statement condemning her for acting in a racist manner, and said she had been treated unfairly. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack then said in the early hours of Wednesday that he would reconsider the USDA's decision to ask for her resignation.
"I am of course willing and will conduct a thorough review and consider additional facts to ensure to the American people we are providing services in a fair and equitable manner," Vilsack said.
But Sherrod, who said on Tuesday that she was pressured to resign, said on NBC's TODAY show that she might not want her job back.
"I am just not sure how I would be treated there," she said, adding that she couldn't get coworkers to listen to her side of the story about a speech she made in March, edited clips of which were recently shown on a conservative website.
Sherrod said her comments were part of a larger story about learning from her mistakes and racial reconciliation. They were not racist, she said, and were taken out of context.
"That's not my message. That's not me," she said on TODAY. "If you look at my life's work, you would know that that's not me."
NAACP was 'snookered'
On Tuesday, NAACP President Benjamin Todd Jealous said that the group was "snookered" into believing that Sherrod expressed racist sentiments at a local NAACP meeting in Georgia earlier this year. After initially supporting her ouster, Jealous changed his mind and said she should keep her job.
The Obama administration's move to reconsider her employment was a reversal on the position just hours earlier, when a White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said President Barack Obama had been briefed on Sherrod's resignation after the fact and stood by the Agriculture Department's handling of it.
[B]However, the white farming family that was the subject of the story came to Sherrod's defense and said she should stay in her job.
"We probably wouldn't have (our farm) today if it hadn't been for her leading us in the right direction," said Eloise Spooner, 82, the wife of farmer Roger Spooner of Iron City, Ga. "I wish she could get her job back because she was good to us, I tell you."
She told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that she considered Sherrod a "friend for life," saying that "the federal official worked tirelessly to help" them hold onto their farm as they faced bankruptcy in 1986.
"Her husband told her, 'You're spending more time with the Spooners than you are with me,'" Spooner told the Journal-Constitution. "She took probably two or three trips with us to Albany just to help us out."
As people came to her defense and Sherrod reached out to media to plead her case, the administration faced criticism that officials, nervous about racial perceptions, had overreacted to her comments and made her a political sacrifice amid dueling allegations of racism between the NAACP and the "Tea Party" movement.[/B]
In the clip posted on BigGovernment.com, Sherrod described the first time a white farmer came to her for help. It was 1986, and she worked for a nonprofit rural farm aid group. She said the farmer came in acting "superior" to her and she debated how much help to give him.
[B]"I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with helping a white person save their land," Sherrod said.
]Initially, she said, "I didn't give him the full force of what I could do" and only gave him enough help to keep his case progressing. But eventually, she said, his situation "opened my eyes" that whites were struggling just like blacks, and helping farmers wasn't so much about race but was "about the poor versus those who have."[/B]
The full video of Sherrod's speech showed that while she took some shots at conservatives and spoke of continued racial inequities, she focused on encouraging blacks, particularly the younger generation, to do more to help themselves.
"We have to overcome the divisions that we have," she told the audience. "Change has to start with us. ... Our young people, I'm not picking on you, but y'all gotta step up to the plate. ... You are capable of being those doctors and lawyers."
ACORN prostitute video
[B]The two-minute, 38-second video clip posted Monday by BigGovernment.com was presented as evidence that the NAACP was hypocritical in its recent resolution condemning what it calls racist elements of the Tea Party movement.
The website's owner, Andrew Breitbart, said the video shows the civil rights group condoning the same kind of racism it says it wants to erase.[/B]
BigGovernment.com is the same outfit that gained fame last year after airing video of workers at the community group ACORN counseling actors posing as a prostitute and her boyfriend.
[B]The Huffington Post said after Breitbart posted the YouTube video of the speech, it was then aired on Fox News and Sherrod's resignation came shortly after.[/B]
Jealous said Breitbart deceived millions of people by releasing only partial clips. He said the full video makes clear that Sherrod was telling a story of racial unity.
"The tape of Ms. Sherrod’s speech at an NAACP banquet was deliberately edited to create a false impression of racial bias, and to create a controversy where none existed," Jealous said Tuesday afternoon. "This just shows the lengths to which extremist elements will go to discredit legitimate opposition."
Newsvine: Was USDA official unfairly forced out?
Sherrod said she was on the road Monday when USDA deputy undersecretary Cheryl Cook called her and told her the White House wanted her to resign because her comments were generating a cable news controversy.
"They called me twice," she told the AP in an interview. "The last time they asked me to pull over to the side of the road and submit my resignation on my BlackBerry, and that's what I did."
'It hurts me'
Sherrod said administration officials weren't interested in hearing her explanation. "It hurts me that they didn't even try to attempt to see what is happening here, they didn't care," she said. "I'm not a racist ... Anyone who knows me knows that I'm for fairness."
The administration gave a slightly different version of events.
Vilsack — not the White House — made the decision to ask Sherrod to resign, said USDA spokeswoman Chris Mather. She said Sherrod willingly resigned when asked.
In a previous statement, Vilsack said the controversy surrounding Sherrod's comments could, rightly or wrongly, cause people to question her decisions as a federal employee and lead to lingering doubts about civil rights at the agency, which has a troubled history of discrimination.
The decision by the NAACP Tuesday afternoon to support Sherrod was in stark contrast to its initial reaction to the incident Monday night in a statement: "Racism is about the abuse of power. Sherrod had it in her position at USDA. According to her remarks, she mistreated a white farmer in need of assistance because of his race."
In that statement, Jealous said the organization was "appalled by her actions, just as we are with abuses of power against farmers of color and female farmers."
"Her actions were shameful. While she went on to explain in the story that she ultimately realized her mistake, as well as the common predicament of working people of all races, she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done to this man," he said.
However, the NAACP reversed its position after seeing the full video of the speech.
msnbc.com and The Associated Press contributed to this report.[/quote][URL]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38321920/ns/us_news-life/[/URL]
Basically BigGovernment.com, a teabagger website, posted a cherrypicked video, Fox picked it up and didn't bother investigating it at all, a woman lost her job for the wrong reasons. If you read the story on Fox, you can see all the ways they try to save face. It's very subtle, but it's there.
Damnit Fox, even when I thought you reached your dumbest, you find a way to become dumber.
Not really. I watched this on CNN for a while and they even had Shirley telling her side of the story. I gotta admit, her comments were pretty racist.
she fully admitted, from what I saw, that she acted in racial bias towards the family no matter how well she actually treated them
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oh wait the video was edited carefully, fuck you fox
Racism is a two way street. She admitted that she didn't want to help the farmer because he was white and didn't help him to the fullest extent because he was white.
This thread sparked me, you all are fucking hypocritical sociopaths. A huge amount of you have no idea of what the fuck you are talking about and try to act like you do. A lot of you also wish death on people for their own damned opinions. And with non political news, you make bad tasted puns on things like BABIES DIEING AND GIRLS TAKING THEIR OWN LIFE, and when someone tells you that you that it is in very bad taste, you reply with some stupid 4chan bullshit.
ITN is worse than fast threads, you all sicken me.
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Well if she thought she was right she shouldn't have resigned.
[QUOTE=Gay;23517372]Not really. I watched this on CNN for a while and they even had Shirley telling her side of the story. I gotta admit, her comments were pretty racist.[/QUOTE]
but she admitted she was wrong and helped the man anyway
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[QUOTE=UserDirk580;23518403]Well if she thought she was right she shouldn't have resigned.[/QUOTE]
it's entirely possible she was insecure about it when she didn't need to be
[QUOTE=Mr. N;23518225]Racism is a two way street. She admitted that she didn't want to help the farmer because he was white and didn't help him to the fullest extent because he was white.
This thread sparked me, you all are fucking hypocritical sociopaths. A huge amount of you have no idea of what the fuck you are talking about and try to act like you do. A lot of you also wish death on people for their own damned opinions. And with non political news, you make bad tasted puns on things like BABIES DIEING AND GIRLS TAKING THEIR OWN LIFE, and when someone tells you that you that it is in very bad taste, you reply with some stupid 4chan bullshit.
ITN is worse than fast threads, you all sicken me.[/QUOTE]
Did you even read the article?
[QUOTE=Mr. N;23518225]Racism is a two way street. She admitted that she didn't want to help the farmer because he was white and didn't help him to the fullest extent because he was white.
This thread sparked me, you all are fucking hypocritical sociopaths. A huge amount of you have no idea of what the fuck you are talking about and try to act like you do. A lot of you also wish death on people for their own damned opinions. And with non political news, you make bad tasted puns on things like BABIES DIEING AND GIRLS TAKING THEIR OWN LIFE, and when someone tells you that you that it is in very bad taste, you reply with some stupid 4chan bullshit.
ITN is worse than fast threads, you all sicken me.[/QUOTE]
where did this come from
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23518456]but she admitted she was wrong and helped the man anyway
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it's entirely possible she was insecure about it when she didn't need to be[/QUOTE]
Well of course she would have helped him, it's her job.
[QUOTE=bobsmit;23518482]Did you even read the article?[/QUOTE]
Yes
It's funny, I saw the edited video on CNN first...
[QUOTE=Mr. N;23518225]Racism is a two way street. She admitted that she didn't want to help the farmer because he was white and didn't help him to the fullest extent because he was white.
This thread sparked me, you all are fucking hypocritical sociopaths. A huge amount of you have no idea of what the fuck you are talking about and try to act like you do. A lot of you also wish death on people for their own damned opinions. And with non political news, you make bad tasted puns on things like BABIES DIEING AND GIRLS TAKING THEIR OWN LIFE, and when someone tells you that you that it is in very bad taste, you reply with some stupid 4chan bullshit.
ITN is worse than fast threads, you all sicken me.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this statement.
[QUOTE=Gay;23518506]Well of course she would have helped him, it's her job.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Initially, she said, "I didn't give him the full force of what I could do" and only gave him enough help to keep his case progressing. But eventually, she said, his situation "opened my eyes" that whites were struggling just like blacks, and helping farmers wasn't so much about race but was "about the poor versus those who have."[/quote]
that seems like a change of heart to me
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23518516]Yes[/QUOTE]
My apologies, that was supposed to be directed at mr. N. I should have quoted him
I hope Fox news does get shut down.
[QUOTE=bobsmit;23518616]My apologies, that was supposed to be directed at mr. N. I should have quoted him[/QUOTE]
No biggie
[QUOTE=Mr. N;23518225]Racism is a two way street. She admitted that she didn't want to help the farmer because he was white and didn't help him to the fullest extent because he was white.
This thread sparked me, you all are fucking hypocritical sociopaths. A huge amount of you have no idea of what the fuck you are talking about and try to act like you do. A lot of you also wish death on people for their own damned opinions. And with non political news, you make bad tasted puns on things like BABIES DIEING AND GIRLS TAKING THEIR OWN LIFE, and when someone tells you that you that it is in very bad taste, you reply with some stupid 4chan bullshit.
ITN is worse than fast threads, you all sicken me.[/QUOTE]
Says the person who didn't read the article. Also you are falsely claiming we are all some monolithic entity that holds the same exact views.
God damn it Fox News.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23518576]that seems like a change of heart to me[/QUOTE]
Doesn't matter. People have been removed from their jobs because of liberal media a lot of times. Some for just a slight racist joke. Why should she be an exception.
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[QUOTE=RBM11;23518658]Says the person who didn't read the article. Also you are falsely claiming we are all some monolithic entity that holds the same exact views.[/QUOTE]
That's what almost everyone in ITN is like. And a select few are even dumber than that or actually know what they're talking about.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;23518571]I agree with this statement.[/QUOTE]
I second agree with that statement.
[QUOTE=RBM11;23518658]Says the person who didn't read the article. Also you are falsely claiming we are all some monolithic entity that holds the same exact views.[/QUOTE]
This forum is quite obviously a liberal forum for the most part. Nearly every thread title is bashing republicans, christianity, the tea party, inserting race into nearly every issue where it doesn't belong, etc. Also there is a large population of 12 year olds here who think that the logic they developed from playing video games applies to the real world i.e "I hope this person physically gets hurt because they disagree with me" demonstrates the childish mindset. Basically if you don't agree with the left here you're basically an idiot and a racist before they even finish reading your post.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;23518680]Doesn't matter. People have been removed from their jobs because of liberal media a lot of times. Some for just a slight racist joke. Why should she be an exception.[/QUOTE]
Like who?
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[QUOTE=lawl;23518959]This forum is quite obviously a liberal forum for the most part. Nearly every thread title is bashing republicans, christianity, the tea party, inserting race into nearly every issue where it doesn't belong, etc. Also there is a large population of 12 year olds here who think that the logic they developed from playing video games applies to the real world i.e "I hope this person physically gets hurt because they disagree with me" demonstrates the childish mindset. Basically if you don't agree with the left here you're basically an idiot and a racist before they even finish reading your post.[/QUOTE]
Get off your high horse
[QUOTE=Mr. N;23518680]Doesn't matter. People have been removed from their jobs because of liberal media a lot of times. Some for just a slight racist joke. Why should she be an exception?[/QUOTE]
Because she wasn't being racist. The video was edited to cherrypick the lead of her argument. It's like people quote mining the Charles Darwin quote:
[quote]To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.[/quote]To make it seem like he doesn't actually support evolution. The rest of the quote proves that he does, in fact, believe something as complex as the eye could come about through natural selection.
[quote]Yet reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a perfect and complex eye to one very imperfect and simple, each grade being useful to its possessor, can be shown to exist; if further, the eye does vary ever so slightly, and the variations be inherited, which is certainly the case; and if any variation or modification in the organ be ever useful to an animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, can hardly be considered real.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=lawl;23518959]This forum is quite obviously a liberal forum for the most part. Nearly every thread title is bashing republicans, christianity, the tea party, inserting race into nearly every issue where it doesn't belong, etc. Also there is a large population of 12 year olds here who think that the logic they developed from playing video games applies to the real world i.e "I hope this person physically gets hurt because they disagree with me" demonstrates the childish mindset. Basically if you don't agree with the left here you're basically an idiot and a racist before they even finish reading your post.[/QUOTE]
What's with all these ridiculous straw man arguments? Would you like to back up your argument of someone calling someone a racist on this forum solely because of political orientation and not because of something racist they said or someone racist they associate themselves with?
As much as I'm not a fan of Fox News, I've seen this video on other stations as well, such a CNN.
I'm not sure where to stand on this. She could be incredibly racist, even with the editing, or the editing could have just demonized her. Either way, Fox isn't solely responsible.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23518962]Like who?
[/QUOTE]
Can't remember the name, but there was this one radio host who pretty much makes fun of everyone. One time he said something about some all woman black basketball team. People got enraged, the media covered him like crazy, and he was forced to go off the air. He even admitted he was wrong and apologized, but the apology was ignored. If you truly want a source I can find it for you.
He called him hoes if I remember correctly
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I don't know that feels more racist than what sherrod did
[QUOTE=Lambeth;23519396]
I don't know that feels more racist than what sherrod did[/QUOTE]
He hosted a radio show.
Sherrod handled government money.
I care more about the government employee.
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