The Governor General Australia publically comes out and supports Australia being a republic, Monarch - Polidicks

[IMG]http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/01/21/1226558/397152-quentin-bryce.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://media2.apnonline.com.au/img/media/images/2011/09/04/TCH_05-09-2011_PAGE_7_01_0509flagday_fct434x267x51_t460.jpg[/IMG] [QUOTE]QUENTIN Bryce has become the first serving Governor-General to publicly back Australia becoming a republic. Ms Bryce, whose term as the Queen's representative ends in March, also threw her support behind gay marriage as she delivered the final Boyer Lecture of the year, outlining her vision for the nation. Her stance puts her at odds on two key issues with Tony Abbott, who opposes both a republic and gay marriage. She said she hoped Australia might become a nation where "people are free to love and marry whom they choose". "And where perhaps, my friends, one day, one young girl or boy may even grow up to be our nation's first head of state," Ms Bryce said in the lecture, which will be broadcast in full on ABC Radio National tomorrow. Last night, a spokesperson for Buckingham Palace told The Weekend Australian: "It's a matter for the Australian people". Australian Monarchist League national chairman Philip Benwell said it was the first time a serving governor-general had made such a public statement. "I think it's disgraceful that a governor-general, who must always be impartial on matters such as this, has come out in this manner," Mr Benwell said. Australians for Constitutional Monarchy national convenor David Flint said Ms Bryce's comments were injudicious, inappropriate and unnecessary. "It's probably best for the Governor-General not to express a view on this ... I don't think it's appropriate at all," Professor Flint said. Even so, Professor Flint said Ms Bryce should not step down. Australian Republic Movement chairman, former West Australian Labor premier Geoff Gallop, backed Ms Bryce's sentiment. "We welcome a conversation with the Australian people to confirm who we have become, Australian to the bootstraps, in time for our next head of state to be one of us, an Australian," Professor Gallop said. In 1999, a two-question referendum on Australia becoming a referendum was defeated.[/QUOTE] - See more at: [url]http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/monarchists-not-happy-as-quentin-bryce-backs-republic-gay-marriage/story-fn59niix-1226766438669#sthash.25GWkHEI.dpuf[/url] I posted most of the article because I think there may be a paywall so. Personally my views on this is, I don't think it's needed I mean nothing will really change we'll still have the same Parliment system and we'll just have a President, along with the Royal Anthem removed and I guess the Royal Navy & Airforce getting a name changed, decrowning our agencies and what not, I don't think it's needed and I love my flag even if it incorporates the United Kingdom it looks 100% better than the proposed

[quote]In 1999, a two-question referendum on Australia becoming a referendum was defeated.[/quote] What a peculiar thing to hold a referendum on.

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[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42953692]Not really, the constitution states that we have a Monarch structure and their powers when making laws along with a bunch of other things, so for us to become a republic we'd have to have a referendum The same thing would go if Canada wanted to become a republic[/QUOTE] Read the quote again.

oh shit fuck

Makes no difference. Not worth the money for all the Constitutional committees that would be required to organise the reform. The power of The Queen is already limited, and the UK has no power over Australia anymore. [editline]23rd November 2013[/editline] Just an overall waste of time and money.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;42953917]Makes no difference. Not worth the money for all the Constitutional committees that would be required to organise the reform. The power of The Queen is already limited, and the UK has no power over Australia anymore. [editline]23rd November 2013[/editline] Just an overall waste of time and money.[/QUOTE] We could have an actual bill of rights though.. instead of implied rights in the constitution.

Viva republicanism

Good. I hope the same happens in Canada.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;42953917]Makes no difference. Not worth the money for all the Constitutional committees that would be required to organise the reform. The power of The Queen is already limited, and the UK has no power over Australia anymore. [editline]23rd November 2013[/editline] Just an overall waste of time and money.[/QUOTE] The Queen's power is limited but that doesn't detract from the fact that she is considered 'above' the normal person. I find it really offensive that I am the subject of an old English woman I have never interacted with purely because of some arbitrary birthright. I think the monetary expense is worth confirming that I am actually equal to everyone and they to me.

I don't think now is a good time for this kind of political reform given how things currently are, it will probably be abused. Perhaps when our current leadership doesn't want to fuck everyone in the ass.

[QUOTE=Keeshond dog;42954105]I don't think now is a good time for this kind of political reform given how things currently are, it will probably be abused. Perhaps when our current leadership doesn't want to fuck everyone in the ass.[/QUOTE] Agreed, politics is pretty kneejerk atm.. We're turning into the United States, with the short slogans and sensationalist/biased media constantly portraying issues in a single light. So much so, that I trust foreign news agencies to cover our stories better than >90% of our news/media organizations.

[QUOTE=Bradyns;42954160]Agreed, politics is pretty kneejerk atm.. We're turning into the United States, with the short slogans and sensationalist/biased media constantly portraying issues in a single light. So much so, that I trust foreign news agencies to cover our stories better than >90% of our news/media organizations.[/QUOTE] This is why i watch SBS over every other australian news. News.com.au is the most sensationalist news site i ever been to and seven news is edging its way slowly to that level

[QUOTE=Keeshond dog;42954105]I don't think now is a good time for this kind of political reform given how things currently are, it will probably be abused. Perhaps when our current leadership doesn't want to fuck everyone in the ass.[/QUOTE] Considering their stance on same-sex marriage, I think their intention is to [i]not[/i] fuck everyone in the ass, or at least not the men.

Didn't Jamaica say they were going to do this a year or so ago?

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;42954057]The Queen's power is limited but that doesn't detract from the fact that she is considered 'above' the normal person. I find it really offensive that I am the subject of an old English woman I have never interacted with purely because of some arbitrary birthright. I think the monetary expense is worth confirming that I am actually equal to everyone and they to me.[/QUOTE] The scary thing about it all isn't that she's limited by a consitution or anything. But the fact that if she wanted to, she could legally take ownership of commonwealth countries.

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;42954057]The Queen's power is limited but that doesn't detract from the fact that she is considered 'above' the normal person. I find it really offensive that I am the subject of an old English woman I have never interacted with purely because of some arbitrary birthright. I think the monetary expense is worth confirming that I am actually equal to everyone and they to me.[/QUOTE] How is the Queen of Australia far above anyone else? If their power is limited, then what does it mean? People are getting their knickers in a knot over something that is pretty meaningless. I am all for changing to a republic, but now is not the time. It should be sought during a period of economic boom, not when we're entering an economic shit storm. There are more pressing things to worry about.

[QUOTE=striker453;42954220]This is why i watch SBS over every other australian news. News.com.au is the most sensationalist news site i ever been to and seven news is edging its way slowly to that level[/QUOTE] I still watch Seven Brisbane news and the Project on Ten but I feel like both are slowly becoming a little stupid, SBS and ABC are becoming hugely popular now because they're non-bias and they don't have shitty reality television, except for SBS's imported Japanese game shows :v:

[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;42954366]The scary thing about it all isn't that she's limited by a consitution or anything. But the fact that if she wanted to, she could legally take ownership of commonwealth countries.[/QUOTE] I don't find that to be a scary thing at all. It would never actually happen.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42954482]I still watch Seven Brisbane news and the Project on Ten but I feel like both are slowly becoming a little stupid, SBS and ABC are becoming hugely popular now because they're non-bias and they don't have shitty reality television, except for SBS's imported Japanese game shows :v:[/QUOTE] It's one of the best parts of SBS the imported european and asian movies and tv shows

For those who don't know the system, Governor General is another level above Prime Minister. She's effectively equal to Queen as she does the Queen's work here in Australia. Also she's really fucking nice and gave me lamingtons and tea once.

We get more benefits being apart of the commonwealth then becoming the United States of Australia.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;42954431]How is the Queen of Australia far above anyone else? If their power is limited, then what does it mean? People are getting their knickers in a knot over something that is pretty meaningless. I am all for changing to a republic, but now is not the time. It should be sought during a period of economic boom, not when we're entering an economic shit storm. There are more pressing things to worry about.[/QUOTE] She's the fucking Queen mate, that instantly gives her more privileges and rights than anyone below her purely because of her hereditary birthright. Unless you are actually going to argue that monarchies somehow don't vertically hierachise society between nobility and laymen it isn't something you can contest. That said, her power is limited in the form of an appointed representative who is essentially autonomous but still answers to any requests the monarch makes (not that that really happens). So it isn't so much an issue of what the Queen has done but rather what she can do, something I find highly dubious if we are going to call ourselves a democracy. Anyway, any time is as good a time to do it. The economy being shit is a pithy excuse (especially when the economy is doing pretty well atm) since the economy and being a republic are not necessarily connected. Plus, stimulus spending during a downturn is a good way to improve the economy, think of the killing sign makers would make when all those Australian Republican Government contracts go out. But yeah, you might see it as getting my knickers in a knot, fair enough. I just find the idea of a monarchy in a democracy contradictory and offensive.

I don't trust the Australian government to handle itself. Maybe in the future.

[QUOTE=reevezy67;42955126]I don't trust the Australian government to handle itself. Maybe in the future.[/QUOTE] Especially not right now, Liberal's have only been sworn in for month, cut budgets, put tonnes of people out of work and we're almost at war with Indonesia.

Tony Abbott has a massive fucking hard-on for the Queen so it won't be happening for a long time. Also we're never in a 100 years going to war with Indonesia, you're paranoid.

[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42954482]I still watch Seven Brisbane news and the Project on Ten but I feel like both are slowly becoming a little stupid, SBS and ABC are becoming hugely popular now because they're non-bias and they don't have shitty reality television, except for SBS's imported Japanese game shows :v:[/QUOTE] Channel 7 in general is turning to shit, they try to appeal to the largest audience possible by pumping out endless reality shows and making corny as fuck "feels" ads that only appeal to the Lowest common denominator. channel 9 has pretty much always appealed to baby boomers and older as far as I remember.

[QUOTE=Whomobile;42955200]Channel 7 in general is turning to shit, they try to appeal to the largest audience possible by pumping out endless reality shows and making corny as fuck "feels" ads that only appeal to the Lowest common denominator. channel 9 has pretty much always appealed to baby boomers and older as far as I remember.[/QUOTE] Their nightly news isn't bad but yes I agree they've got shit house programming Man you haven't seen nothing until you see the 9 News facebook page comments holy shit

I think the biased media is why we have that fucking idiot for a PM. It made me furious watching the news around the federal election. Post election, I am hearing a lot more negativity toward the new government and I think people are starting to realize that they have made a huge mistake. Still, it's too early to tell, maybe things will straighten out... I doubt it.

I'm sort of confused, a paywall on a news site is pretty damn weird.