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The Libyan government apparently wants to share its successful experience of overthrowing the Gaddafi regime with like-minded Syrians. It has sent 600 of its troops to support local militants against the Assad regime, according to media reports.
The fighters have joined the Free Syria Army, the militant group carrying out attacks on government forces in Syria, reports the Egyptian news website Al-Ray Al-Arabi citing its sources. The report says the troops entered Syria through Turkish territory.
The alleged incursion happened with the consent of the chairman of the Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) Mustafa Abdul Jalil. The NTC allegedly welcomed volunteers to join the surge.
Last Friday British media reported a secret meeting between NTC envoys and Syrian rebels had been held in Istanbul. The Libyan governing body reportedly pledged to supply arms, money and fighters to the Syrians.
Bashar Assad’s government has repeatedly accused foreign forces of smuggling armed groups and weapons into Syria and thus fueling the ongoing violence.
In mid-October the Libyan NTC was the first government to recognize the rebel Syrian National Council as the legitimate representatives of the Syrian people.
The Libyan population is in possession of many weapons, which they received during the civil war by plundering military depots, through smuggling or as aid from NATO members and countries like Qatar, which took part in the ousting of Muammar Gaddafi. The NTC has difficulties in disarming the ex-rebels, who want to keep their firearms, either for personal protection or as means to make their living.
In November, the Libyan capital, Tripoli, saw a mass protest by the rebels, who demanded that the NTC pay their wages. Some even threatened to overthrow the new government the way they did with the previous one, unless their demands are met.
Funneling armed, underemployed and eager-to-fight youngsters to another country could be a convenient move for the NTC. The Syrian government, however, is likely to see them as mercenaries, which NATO member Turkey allowed into their country as an alternative to a full-scale military campaign, which is impossible without the sanction of the United Nations Security Council.[/release]
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I think Libya will grow and be a very powerful nation eventually if they're showing potential like this from the start.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;33500873]I think Libya will grow and be a very powerful nation eventually if they're showing potential like this from the start.[/QUOTE]
That or get crushed by the militant governments it's so wantonly opposing
This is a noble action but it's reckless and will probably not have good results for anyone
[QUOTE=teh pirate;33500904]That or get crushed by the militant governments it's so wantonly opposing
This is a noble action but it's reckless and will probably not have good results for anyone[/QUOTE]
I'd rather do something good and fail than do bad and succeed.
Thats a pretty bold move just after their uprising, hopefully they succeed in being useful.
[QUOTE=Roof;33500979]I'd rather do something good and fail than do bad and succeed.[/QUOTE]
I'd rather Libya take some time to fix its own problems before picking fights with much more powerful nations. If Syria responds with military action against Libya here, a lot of innocent people are going to die for no reason.
Not acting here would have been better from a moral standpoint; Libya is in no condition to be waging wars right now.
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[B][I]Send in the doom dozer[/I][/B]
If Libya get a proper government that keeps up the same social system as Gadaffi but with proper democracy and freedom of speech it can probably be even better then before. Let's just hope the oil revenue goes to the people.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;33501013][img]http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/660/371/armored%20bulldozer%20libya.JPG[/img]
[B][I]Send in the doom dozer[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
That's a pretty proper vehicle for urban fighting.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;33501013][img]http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/660/371/armored%20bulldozer%20libya.JPG[/img]
[B][I]Send in the doom dozer[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Timebomb575;33501013][img]http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/660/371/armored%20bulldozer%20libya.JPG[/img]
[B][I]Send in the doom dozer[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
The Syrian government will be crushed.
Can I join in?! :(
[QUOTE=King of Limbs;33501077]Can I join in?! :([/QUOTE]
Go to Lebanon with willing translator, smuggle in weapons along with yourselves and join the free syria army. Pretty straight forward.
wow, that's incredibly bold. the libyans better hope they win.
This builds diplomatic relations.
Reminds me of Napoleon's revolutionary France...We shall spread revolution!
Isn't this consider an act of war? With official soldiers going into another nation, that's technically invasion. It may be for a good cause but if they do that, it's no longer a civil war, it's war!
[QUOTE=BCell;33503346]Isn't this consider an act of war? With official soldiers going into another nation, that's technically invasion. It may be for a good cause but if they do that, it's no longer a civil war, it's war![/QUOTE]
War has changed, its not longer war to send a small amount of soldiers into hostile territory to fight against another countries military.
[QUOTE=ripple3000;33503418]War has changed[/QUOTE]
Or has it?
No. War never changes. Or does it? No. Yes. No?
[QUOTE=mac338;33503501]Or has it?
No. War never changes. Or does it? No. Yes. No?[/QUOTE]
The answer is no.
If Syria wage war on Libya, Qatar and NATO will probably get involved; and because of Qatar and the US's relations there will be US soldiers sent in; not to mention the rest of the GCC and possibly Jordan. This may spin into a big war if Syria declares it.
[editline]30th November 2011[/editline]
Not sure about NATO, the other ones I am quite sure of though.
[QUOTE=Conspiracy;33503674]If Syria wage war on Libya, Qatar and NATO will probably get involved; and because of Qatar and the US's relations there will be US soldiers sent in; not to mention the rest of the GCC and possibly Jordan. This may spin into a big war if Syria declares it.
[editline]30th November 2011[/editline]
Not sure about NATO, the other ones I am quite sure of though.[/QUOTE]
Why would Syria declare war on Libya, they have no means of getting to Libya other then by boat, and then they're supply lines would be cut off if they were invaded.
[QUOTE=ripple3000;33503708]Why would Syria declare war on Libya, they have no means of getting to Libya other then by boat, and then they're supply lines would be cut off if they were invaded.[/QUOTE]
That part of the world is very sensitive about their national sovereignty. If Libya send soldiers into Syria, there is a chance that Syria is going to try to 'send them a message'.
Also Syria have a pretty well established air force.
[QUOTE=Roof;33500979]I'd rather do something good and fail than do bad and succeed.[/QUOTE]
I'm the other way around. :buddy:
[QUOTE=Angus725;33502175]Reminds me of Napoleon's revolutionary France...We shall spread revolution![/QUOTE]
[megahistorynerdrant]It also helped that the British violated the Treaty of Amiens by refusing to evacuate from Malta, thus re-igniting war in 1804, or the Prussian war court going into a fervor and declaring war in 1806 (with the results being Prussia's army was obliterated), or the Austrians attacking in 1809 with no declaration of war.
Just sayin, you know, the so-called "Napoleonic" Wars wasn't just caused by Nappy's desire to spread the Revolution.
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On topic, has this been reported anywhere else? I'm not seeing it on BBC or Al-Jazeera.
Well it would seem, if helping to free people from oppressive regimes is going to be their "hat" (as it were), we may very well have a [I]nice country[/I] on our hands. Who'd a thunk it? I can remember when people were still worried if the Rebels would lose.
A fuckton can change in a few months, evidently.
[QUOTE=Dogchow33;33500873]I think Libya will grow and be a very powerful nation eventually if they're showing potential like this from the start.[/QUOTE]
they were a powerful and peaceful nation before the west fucked them up the ass
[QUOTE=Bobie;33504231]they were a powerful and peaceful nation before Gaddafi fucked them up the ass[/QUOTE]
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Fun fact, none of those jets can reach Libya and return, also it's amusing you listed the Mig-21 there as if that's in anyway is scary
[QUOTE=Bobie;33504231]they were a powerful and peaceful nation before the west fucked them up the ass[/QUOTE]
Well, they've been given a chance to start again.
[QUOTE=BCell;33503609]The answer is no.[/QUOTE]
Unless it is yes...
[QUOTE=teh pirate;33500904]That or get crushed by the militant governments it's so wantonly opposing
This is a noble action but it's reckless and will probably not have good results for anyone[/QUOTE]
At the very least, it'll send a message that the Arab nations/Middle East/African regions are better off cooperating than constantly warring and hating each other.
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