Personally, I am going to have to vote for Labor. Why?
Well because Labor unlike Liberal have priorities set for the slightly lower class, the current working class and will provide them the needs to get to the medium class and stop having to struggle and flail around trying to scrape up any spare job they can find; thus this will increase unemployment, which is a huge problem for the economy. The upper class of people in Australia wont get as much benefit and will get slightly higher tax and they don't want to lose their money, if they have enough to stay as wealthy as they are Labor will hardly affect them.
Labor also provides a much needed NBN which will be issued out much faster than what Liberal is planning to do even if they do it. Australia is already far behind when it comes to internet, by 2019 when Liberal issues their 'Fast Internet' The world will already be much further ahead. The NBN is a fiber connection(Which I'm sure you all know about) and will make Latency, download speeds and upload speeds a shit tonne faster.
Liberal is also completely against gay marriage, which doesn't affect me too much but it is still wrong and should be allowed.
There is plenty more I can go on about, but I want other opinions
Also what kind of Politician dresses like this? There's no other Politician in the world who acts like that! Not to mention he's also sexist.
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ill vote liberal because im not an impressionable idiot
I align with Labor in terms of economic policy, as an economics student I agree more with Labor's Keynesian approach to fiscal policy more so than the Coalition's leaning towards classical economics. Also I disagree with Abbott's opinion that we have a 'budget emergency', we certainly do not have such an emergency and it is not really necessary that the government creates a budget surplus at the moment.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;42072385]I align with Labor in terms of economic policy, as an economics student I agree more with Labor's Keynesian approach to fiscal policy more so than the Coalition's leaning towards classical economics. Also I disagree with Abbott's opinion that we have a 'budget emergency', we certainly do not have such an emergency and it is not really necessary that the government creates a budget surplus at the moment.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I completely there is no need for budget cuts, I'm currently in study at Tafe. I certainly don't want our systems to never upgrade or have to pay more per course.
I don't think this ad is targeted at this generation of voters. More than likely they're trying to win over youth who are only a few years away from voting by appealing to them when they're still impressionable.
[video=youtube;hxZ0yDTfnjw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxZ0yDTfnjw[/video]
Apart from the flimsy economic plan, these guys seem like the people to vote for.
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[QUOTE=Waffler;42073059]For anyone who wants a simplified version, [url=http://dontbeafuckingidiot.herokuapp.com/]check this out. It's a good read[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Vote for Labor (or at least The Greens with Labor as your second preference).[/QUOTE]
yeah fucking right, as if im ever going to support the greens
I'm going to vote Palmer United because Clive is a businessman, which is what Australia desperately needs. Unlike the other two parties (liberals and labor) whom are a bunch of squabbling children that use TV ads to insult each other.
[QUOTE=abcpea;42072360]ill vote liberal because im not an impressionable idiot[/QUOTE]
you'll be voting for a homophobic and xenophobic government who wants to implement shitty internet - among other things? I feel sorry for you
The trend seems to be the older generation voting for libs and the younger generation voting for labor. For the love of me I don't understand why libs will be voted in, sure they may be more organised atm but now that everything has settled down for labor they will actually make some progress on things.
For the NBN, something we desperately need (and nearly activated in my area, so I don't know what's going to happen to that if the libs get in power) and for actual support of gay marriage rights (even though it might not be implemented, its still nice to see actual support), I believe that labor deserves it. I haven't read much on the economic policy but so far it seems alright. The only thing I'm very annoyed at labor for is their stance on asylum seekers. It's nothing but a political strategy and pissing me off to no end.
I'm tossing up between labor and palmer united (I want him to get a seat at least), but because voting for labor is the best chance to not allow libs in power, I thin I'll vote for Ruddy.
[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]
I know a lot of people who are voting for libs because they dont know who to vote for and their parents are voting libs. It's quite sad really. I hate the baby boomers generation I can't wait until they no longer have a large say in how the nation is run.
[QUOTE=Badballer;42073444]The trend seems to be the older generation voting for libs and the younger generation voting for labor. For the love of me I don't understand why libs will be voted in, sure they may be more organised atm but now that everything has settled down for labor they will actually make some progress on things.
For the NBN, something we desperately need (and nearly activated in my area, so I don't know what's going to happen to that if the libs get in power) and for actual support of gay marriage rights (even though it might not be implemented, its still nice to see actual support), I believe that labor deserves it. I haven't read much on the economic policy but so far it seems alright. The only thing I'm very annoyed at labor for is their stance on asylum seekers. It's nothing but a political strategy and pissing me off to no end.
I'm tossing up between labor and palmer united (I want him to get a seat at least), but because voting for labor is the best chance to not allow libs in power, I thin I'll vote for Ruddy.
[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]
I know a lot of people who are voting for libs because they dont know who to vote for and their parents are voting libs. It's quite sad really. I hate the baby boomers generation I can't wait until they no longer have a large say in how the nation is run.[/QUOTE]
You don't have to choose between Labor or Palmer's party, we have preferential voting and you might as well make use of it. Say you put a 1 against Palmer's party and 2 against Labor, your first vote goes to Palmer's party, but if Palmer's party gets eliminated from the election for having too few votes, then your second vote will kick in and go towards Labor.
We don't live in the backwards democracy that is the US, so make the best of it.
do your research and understand how preferences work when you vote for a minor party
vote minor parties with policies that actually matter to you
voting for a party based on a 'leader' is pretty dumb
Oh that's how it works I always wondered.
[video=youtube;XLLl0UKosJg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLl0UKosJg[/video]
[video=youtube;h1EXbRSmnmU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1EXbRSmnmU[/video]
Can you seriously imagine this fool talking to other world leaders as our representative.
Abbott may very well be a complete fucking retard, but I'm voting for the party, not him. Rudd was kicked out for a reason last time, all he's got going for him is good public speaking ability. He's all talk on a lot of things, but that's apparently enough to win over voters.
Don't forget we've got labor, a party that lied through their teeth about the carbon tax. Julia was just a figure head for the labor caucus anyway, as is Ruddy.
[QUOTE=1800_SCREWED;42072397]Yeah, I completely there is no need for budget cuts, I'm currently in study at Tafe. I certainly don't want our systems to never upgrade or have to pay more per course.[/QUOTE]
There is a need for budget cuts, thanks to all the bullshit spending Ruddy did back in his last term. What they should have done was budget cuts, rather than more taxes.
Also btw, the labor party ripped out massive amounts of funding for tertiary studies to fund their education reform, which is godamned idiotic.
[editline] September 2013 [/editline]
On a side note, I'm going to be fucking ecstatic when the greens lose their grip on the reps and senate. I'd much prefer independents than those nutcases. (Yes pushing for gay marriage is good, but their other policies are legitimately batshit crazy).
I'm voting for the Greens for two reasons 1) I see them as the only genuinely humanitarian party currently in Parliament, both Labour and Liberal have shown that they have very little interest in the health and safety of incredibly vulnerable people to the point it is farcical 2) Voting for Labour will do nothing but promote the current status quo in the party, something which I'd like to see changed. The reintroduction of Kevin Rudd was a signal for me that the ALP is less concerned with running the country than being self-serving career politicans. I wouldn't vote for the LNP due to being ideologically unaligned with their views so the logical choice was the Greens.
[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Azza;42073762]On a side note, I'm going to be fucking ecstatic when the greens lose their grip on the reps and senate. I'd much prefer independents than those nutcases. (Yes pushing for gay marriage is good, but their other policies are legitimately batshit crazy).[/QUOTE]
It'll probably happen for the House of Reps but I expect the Greens to be sticking around in the senate
You got a party that wanna decriminalize/legalize weed and you still can't decide what to vote for?
[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;42073984]You got a party that wanna decriminalize/legalize weed and you still can't decide what to vote for?[/QUOTE]
Breaking news, the legalisation of weed is all that voters care for!
Moron. There are far more important issues such as what we should do regarding refugees and handling carbon emissions.
[editline]4th September 2013[/editline]
I've just realised how silly my comment is because the Greens stand for weed legalisation, ethical treatment of refugees and reduced carbon emissions haha.
I voted for the pirate party, no not the ones that support piracy but people who legitimately dress up as pirates.
[QUOTE=Azza;42073762]Julia was just a figure head for the labor caucus anyway, as is Ruddy.[/QUOTE]
What a load of shit. When Gillard was head of the Federal Labor Party, she spearheaded a huge amount of legislative change. And yet, in a matter of days after returning, Rudd has already changed many of Labor's policies.
While I'm not voting Labor this election, the entirety of your post just makes you sounds like a repeater of the Liberal's untruths.
At this point I'm probably going to be voting for the Greens with preferences to Labor. The Greens have a better chance that the ASP, and there's no way I'd vote for a party lead by Abbott (Put in Turnbull and we'll talk, he's not an idiot like Abbott is)
[QUOTE=The Janitor;42073669][video=youtube;XLLl0UKosJg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLl0UKosJg[/video]
[video=youtube;h1EXbRSmnmU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1EXbRSmnmU[/video]
Can you seriously imagine this fool talking to other world leaders as our representative.[/QUOTE]
Abbott's a fucking idiot. But that shouldn't change people's view of the intelligent party behind him.
Now, if we could get Malcolm Turnbull to become PM, we'd all be fucking saved.
Also, I hate these fucking scare ads. They're so retarded and make all sides of politics sound like uncultured swine. Until they only talk about what positive things they are going to offer for our future, I'll be mad.
[QUOTE=1800_SCREWED;42072273]Labor also provides a much needed NBN which will be issued out much faster than what Liberal is planning to do even if they do it. Australia is already far behind when it comes to internet, by 2019 when Liberal issues their 'Fast Internet' The world will already be much further ahead. The NBN is a fiber connection(Which I'm sure you all know about) and will make Latency, download speeds and upload speeds a shit tonne faster.[/QUOTE]
Oh come one, the NBN's fibre plans have been a massive fucking failure. The independent tracking site [url]http://www.mynbn.info/[/url] shows that only about 30 000 homes are connected to the NBN today. That's fucking hopeless. As much as I dislike the Liberal's policy of FTTN, it will at least be done quicker and far less expensive than Labor's fibre plans. It would be much more desirable to have the Liberals in charge of the NBN, delivering fibre to us, so it wouldn't fuck up like it has under Labor.
For my house, 6 few months ago the NBN rollout map said fibre construction would start within a year. A few months ago it changed to 3 years. Now, nothing!
Why do people have so much faith in him?
Vote labour cunts.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;42074509]Why do people have so much faith in him?[/QUOTE]
He hasn't said anything and hasn't had a chance to fuck everything up yet lol.
[QUOTE=incognitocob;42074491]Abbott's a fucking idiot. But that shouldn't change people's view of the intelligent party behind him.
Now, if we could get Malcolm Turnbull to become PM, we'd all be fucking saved.
Also, I hate these fucking scare ads. They're so retarded and make all sides of politics sound like uncultured swine. Until they only talk about what positive things they are going to offer for our future, I'll be mad.
Oh come one, the NBN's fibre plans have been a massive fucking failure. The independent tracking site [url]http://www.mynbn.info/[/url] shows that only about 30 000 homes are connected to the NBN today. That's fucking hopeless. As much as I dislike the Liberal's policy of FTTN, it will at least be done quicker and far less expensive than Labor's fibre plans. It would be much more desirable to have the Liberals in charge of the NBN, delivering fibre to us, so it wouldn't fuck up like it has under Labor.[/QUOTE]
But they aren't delivering fibre? You will have to pay from $5K to $15K out of your own pocket to get it hooked up.
Does everyone forget that Malcolm Turnbull is a still a member of the liberals or has politics devolved into who would make the cooler mum/dad?
[QUOTE=reevezy67;42074590]But they aren't delivering fibre? You will have to pay from $5K to $15K out of your own pocket to get it hooked up.[/QUOTE]
I'm saying [I]if[/I] they were offering fibre, it wouldn't be as fucked as it is now.
[QUOTE=TheDecryptor;42074214]At this point I'm probably going to be voting for the Greens with preferences to Labor. The Greens have a better chance that the ASP, and there's no way I'd vote for a party lead by Abbott (Put in Turnbull and we'll talk, he's not an idiot like Abbott is)[/QUOTE]
Like this is just confusing to me
[url]http://www.orp.org.au/index.html[/url]
i the sound of these guys
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