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[release]On January 5th, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) introduced a bill to add yet another year to the soon to be expiring Patriot Act. This would extend it until February of 2012, and passage is likely to happen with little debate or contention. If passed, this would be the second time the Obama administration has punted on campaign promises to roll back excessive surveillance measures allowed under the act passed in the wake of 9/11.
When the Patriot Act was first signed in 2001, it was billed as a temporary measure required because of the extreme circumstances created by the terrorist threat. The fear from its opponents was that executive power, once given, is seldom relinquished. In retrospect, that fear appears well founded. Not only has Obama not given the power back, but he has continued to abuse it to spy on citizens without due process.
In 2007, candidate Obama said during his Presidency there would be "no more National Security Letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime" because "that is not who we are, and it is not what is necessary to defeat the terrorists." The hope that he'll make good on that statement is seeming pretty audacious.
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The USA has not changed since obama took over. He barely did anything. Well of course Since the USA uses a 2 party system where the parties are not that different and all serve the same interests (Corporate and the rich) there is not much you can do.
Obama is a joke.
Lolbama
Presidents are just the fall guys for attack. The real guys running the show are the bankers.
This is one of the many reasons I really dislike Obama.
[editline]14th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=DarkSpider;27418001]Presidents are just the fall guys for attack. The real guys running the show are the bankers.[/QUOTE]
Except that Obama has the power to stop it, but he doesn't.
10 years is not "temporary". :colbert:
[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;27417586]The USA has not changed since obama took over. He barely did anything. Well of course Since the USA uses a 2 party system where the parties are not that different and all serve the same interests (Corporate and the rich) there is not much you can do.[/QUOTE]
No the problem with a 2 party system is that when one party wants something the other 1 immediately hates it, so fuck all gets done.
It's an awful system that'll destroy your country.
why do we even need political representatives though
why can't the people just vote on laws, rather than having to vote for people to vote for laws?
[QUOTE=Pockets;27418090]why do we even need political representatives though
why can't the people just vote on laws, rather than having to vote for people to vote for laws?[/QUOTE]
Because the citizens are stupid and if you have a full democracy you end up with mob rule. the Gold member revocation thread is a good example of what happens when the people have power
[QUOTE=Pockets;27418090]why do we even need political representatives though
why can't the people just vote on laws, rather than having to vote for people to vote for laws?[/QUOTE]
Barely anyone votes.
Why don't you try bothering your state representatives?
[editline]14th January 2011[/editline]
senator, representatives, judges
[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;27417586]The USA has not changed since obama took over. He barely did anything. Well of course Since the USA uses a 2 party system where the parties are not that different and all serve the same interests (Corporate and the rich) there is not much you can do.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/[/url]
yeh i dont think so buddy
Obama is an Uncle Sam.
[QUOTE=Dr.C;27418140]Because the citizens are stupid and if you have a full democracy you end up with mob rule. the Gold member revocation thread is a good example of what happens when the people have power[/QUOTE]
prop 8 is a better example
Who the fuck cares about some boring law, all I care about is the latest celebrity who got busted for drug possession.
/America
[QUOTE=Acesarge;27419396]Who the fuck cares about some boring law, all I care about is the latest celebrity who got busted for drug possession.
/America[/QUOTE]
i really hate the fact that this is true more than anything in the world.
[QUOTE=marlkarxv2;27418307][url]http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/[/url]
yeh i dont think so buddy[/QUOTE]
The fact that this website is necessary shows that Obama's a shitty president. The people who voted for him need a goddamn list of what he's done because none of it has been important enough for them to remember.
P.S. I didn't vote Obama, this country isn't my fault.
[QUOTE=Acesarge;27419396]Who the fuck cares about some boring law, all I care about is the latest celebrity who got busted for drug possession.
/America[/QUOTE]
It's all about ignoring reality, look at what happened during the great depression. Everyone was running out to see a movie and whatnot, and today generally the same thing is happening what with our economy being the way it is.
[QUOTE=leadpumper;27419480]The fact that this website is necessary shows that Obama's a shitty president. The people who voted for him need a goddamn list of what he's done because none of it has been important enough for them to remember.
P.S. I didn't vote Obama, this country isn't my fault.[/QUOTE]
Pffft! Its all our fault, no one can escape responsibility.
Oh! And stop the bill now god damnit! Its a step in the right direction!
I've already lost respect for Obama..
[QUOTE=leadpumper;27419480]The fact that this website is necessary shows that Obama's a shitty president. The people who voted for him need a goddamn list of what he's done because none of it has been important enough for them to remember.
P.S. I didn't vote Obama, this country isn't my fault.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9188/whatisthisidontevenc.png[/img]
...according to some guys blog
[QUOTE=leadpumper;27419480]The fact that this website is necessary shows that Obama's a shitty president. The people who voted for him need a goddamn list of what he's done because none of it has been important enough for them to remember.
P.S. I didn't vote Obama, this country isn't my fault.[/QUOTE]
It's not like McCain would have done anything about the Act either, if anything he would gladly extend it.
The website was created so that Obama haters wouldn't go "Obama hasn't done shit" to try and make him look bad.
[QUOTE=leadpumper;27419480]The fact that this website is necessary shows that Obama's a shitty president. The people who voted for him need a goddamn list of what he's done because none of it has been important enough for them to remember.
P.S. I didn't vote Obama, this country isn't my fault.[/QUOTE]
Nah, it's necessary because people like you find it easy to just ignore whatever he has done, so they need a website to show them.
[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;27417751]Obama is a joke.[/QUOTE]
hey he was better then any president we had in the last 10 years (yea that only includes bush but you know what I mean)
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whats with all the Obama hate? anythings better then Palin.
I don't even hate Obama. Anyone who is president while the opposite party is in/or gaining power is a VERY shitty job.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;27420318]
whats with all the Obama hate? anythings better then another pasty white guy.[/QUOTE]
Fixed that for you.
Whats the point of having the Patriot Act extended anyway, this seems more like a waste of time than anything beneficial.
[QUOTE=Combine_dumb;27419530]It's all about ignoring reality, look at what happened during the great depression. Everyone was running out to see a movie and whatnot, and today generally the same thing is happening what with our economy being the way it is.[/QUOTE]
Ehh... I don't think people are ignorant only during economic crises. They're ignorant all the time.
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