• Mexico captures 1 of drug cartel's last leaders
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[quote] MEXICO CITY—Mexican police say they have captured one of the last major leaders of the La Familia cartel, a pseudo-religious drug gang that has been decimated by arrests and killings. Tweet Be the first to Tweet this! ShareThis The head of the federal police anti-drug unit says suspect Martin Rosales Magana was trying to forge an alliance with the Zetas cartel to revive La Familia. Federal Police Commissioner Facundo Rosas says La Familia has been almost completely disarticulated. The cartel has been displaced in its western home state of Michoacan by the equally cult-like Knights Templar gang. Officials announced the arrest of Rosales Magana and two associates Wednesday. They said he had planned to launch a mass attack on the Knights Templar with more than 200 gunmen.[/quote] [url]http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2011/10/05/mexico_nabs_9_escaped_inmates_at_cartel_camp/[/url] Some good news.
The problem isn't in the specific gangs., it's in the environment, the tendention. If the destroy one gang, another will take it's place. They would need to turn Mexico into a police state to deal with it this way.
Didn't this group disguise their attacks as vigilante justice to gain public support?
sure they've captured a leader of that cartel, doesn't really matter considering the article even states another one has replaced them
The first idea that comes into mind when seeing this cartel business is probably "Send in the army and kill all cartels" for some of you psychos. The reason this has not happened is probably that even in the face of total chaos, the mexican government doesn't want to just get rid of due process and let the streets flow red with blood.
[QUOTE=Falchion;32637589]The first idea that comes into mind when seeing this cartel business is probably "Send in the army and kill all cartels" for some of you psychos. The reason this has not happened is probably that even in the face of total chaos, the mexican government doesn't want to just get rid of due process and let the streets flow red with blood.[/QUOTE] pretty sure the streets are flowing red with blood after all the bodies being dumped on them
[QUOTE=Falchion;32637589]The first idea that comes into mind when seeing this cartel business is probably "Send in the army and kill all cartels" for some of you psychos. The reason this has not happened is probably that even in the face of total chaos, the mexican government doesn't want to just get rid of due process and let the streets flow red with blood.[/QUOTE] Too bad that resulted in hundreds if not thousands of innocent people tortured and slaughtered.
But the money that comes out of the business, I cannot be the only one who thinks it goes in every direction, meaning political figures and whoever. Kinda like corruption. Interesting stuff :P
Stop one cartel, the others just make more money. The demand for drugs won't go away.
1 cartel captured, thousands of heads found.
[QUOTE=Shiftyze;32639989]1 cartel captured, thousands of heads found.[/QUOTE] They see me rolling... I'm... I'm sorry.
[QUOTE=Falchion;32637589]The first idea that comes into mind when seeing this cartel business is probably [B]"Send in the army and kill all cartels"[/B] for some of you psychos. The reason this has not happened is probably that even in the face of total chaos, the mexican government doesn't want to just get rid of due process and let the streets flow red with blood.[/QUOTE] Are you serious? That is exactly what the government is trying to do. They're literally just too weak.
Well there must be some oil in Mexico.
Mexico's getting stuff done. That's more than what we've been doing.
Mexico is pretty deep in the hole now. I think they might need some foreign support there is no way they can take care of all of these drug gangs. On a side note wasn't this the gang related to the severed heads found near that military base in Mexico City?
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You can take their leaders, sure, but gangs tend to keep going on and on.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;32637524]sure they've captured a leader of that cartel, doesn't really matter considering the article even states another one has replaced them[/QUOTE] actually, of the seven or so drug cartels, la familia and beltran-leyva were almost entirely taken out the former has gone through a lot of leaders though
Mexico needs a full economic uprise to solve the cartel problem.
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;32641422]Are you serious? That is exactly what the government is trying to do. They're literally just too weak.[/QUOTE] Shit well I guess you gotta be the heroes again and save mexico with decisive military slaughter.
Batter up, next one on the field!
[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;32641422]Are you serious? That is exactly what the government is trying to do. They're literally just too weak.[/QUOTE] Not to mention the Zetas are offering better pay to any soldier that defects.
Honestly, the only way I see Mexico actually dealing with the drug lord problem is probably getting a president that's hardcore for law and order then executing the well-known ones without a proper due process & being hell a lot tougher. Violently tougher, aka a 'benevolent' police state. Oxymoron yes, but you know what I'm trying to say. Discontinuing war on drugs won't do anything for Mexico, it'll work in US, UK, and other places, but not this country, the infestation is way too fucking deep, similar to Brazil. While the solution is horrendous and shouldn't be proposed, that's the only way to actually destroy the drug lords. Other than that, when it comes to drugs, Mexico is so fucked.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;32649499]Honestly, the only way I see Mexico actually dealing with the drug lord problem is probably getting a president that's hardcore for law and order then executing the well-known ones without a proper due process & being hell a lot tougher. Violently tougher, aka a 'benevolent' police state. Oxymoron yes, but you know what I'm trying to say. Discontinuing war on drugs won't do anything for Mexico, it'll work in US, UK, and other places, but not this country, the infestation is way too fucking deep, similar to Brazil. While the solution is horrendous and shouldn't be proposed, that's the only way to actually destroy the drug lords. Other than that, when it comes to drugs, Mexico is so fucked.[/QUOTE] So, basically, hangin' judges? If you're familiar with Old Western history, you know what I mean.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;32649576]So, basically, hangin' judges? If you're familiar with Old Western history, you know what I mean.[/QUOTE] Pretty much, United States had a hand in it after declaring War on Drugs, which pretty much fucked over Mexico with the drug problem. Unless it has a radical changed mindset on punishment, noting will change. United State's drug problem can be solved with stopping the dumb drug prohibitions and regulating it, but it's not the same for Mexico cause of the situation there. So pretty much, unless they go total police state but keeping benevolence in mind, this drug problem will continue to run rampant unfortunately.
[QUOTE=Jamesworth;32642399]Mexico is pretty deep in the hole now. I think they might need some foreign support there is no way they can take care of all of these drug gangs. On a side note wasn't this the gang related to the severed heads found near that military base in Mexico City?[/QUOTE] I don't think they would like having American forces in their home turf
[QUOTE=Rankxerox;32651245]I don't think they would like having American forces in their home turf[/QUOTE] i dont think they would like to keep seeing severed heads infront of schools either
Don't worry, the United States can go right in and liberate the shit out of Mexico from the cartels! We've invaded once, shouldn't be too hard! [img]http://historystuff.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/chapultepec-marines-story.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;32651302]Don't worry, the United States can go right in and liberate the shit out of Mexico from the cartels! We've invaded once, shouldn't be too hard! [img]http://historystuff.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/chapultepec-marines-story.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Weren't the Mexicans trying to abolish slavery? Or is that the joke? I'm quite interested in this "Knights Templar" gang. I mean, of all the people to base your gang off of, you go with the Knights Templar?
[QUOTE=Cone;32651392]Weren't the Mexicans trying to abolish slavery? Or is that the joke? I'm quite interested in this "Knights Templar" gang. I mean, of all the people to base your gang off of, you go with the Knights Templar?[/QUOTE] They had already abolished it by then. That's one of the reasons Texas fought for their independence - the Americans who moved in didn't want to give up their slaves.
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