I am goin to a friends house to jam and make music for a while tonight. We are gona get a little drunk from whiskey, and really high before jammin. I just remembered that I have a gram of 60x salvia aswell.
I've only packed a small lip once (Maybe 1/8 a gram of 60x). That time, I packed a lip with spicy jalapeno pepper seeds to increase blood flow. It only felt like the calm before the storm of a salvia trip, but it never got more intense. Just visuals in my peripherals, warmer colors, slight pattern recognition, and a really inspiring happy feeling (This may have been because it was summer, warm, and I was at a concert)
I'm having trouble finding the point where I wouldn't be able to operate on salvia.
If I wanna trip light enough to still play guitar/bass, how much of it should I pack into my lip? (I'm gona be drinkin while I have a lip of it)
Please don't try to convince me to smoke it. I've smoked enough salvia in my life, and that's not the kind of inspiration I'm looking for this time. I wanna be able to experience things on it.
Anyway, I'm gona pack some of it whether I get an answer or not and report my findings tonight or tomorrow.
(Sorry for the spelling mistakes.. etc.)
[QUOTE=Atta|To|End;34849632]I am goin to a friends house to jam and make music for a while tonight. We are gone get a little drunk from whiskey before, and really high before jammin. I just remembered that I have a gram of 60x salvia aswell.
I've only packed a small lip once (Maybe 1/8 a gram of 60x). That time, I packed a lip with spicy jalapeno pepper seeds to increase blood flow. It only felt like the calm before the storm of a salvia trip, but it never got more intense. Just visuals in my peripherals, warmer colors, slight pattern recognition, and a really inspiring happy feeling (This may have been because it was summer, warm, and I was at a concert)
I'm having trouble finding the point were I wouldn't be able to operate on salvia.
If I wanna trip light enough to still play guitar/bass, how much of it should I pack into my lip? (I'm gona be drinkin while I have a lip of it)
Please don't try to convince me to smoke it. I've smoked enough salvia in my life, and that's not the kind of inspiration I'm looking for this time. I wanna be able to experience things on it.
Anyway, I'm gona pack some of it whether I get an answer or not and report my findings tonight or tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
It lasts like 10 minutes, so you're not going to be tripping long. And you could take a smaller dose and get the 'calm before the storm' feeling as you described it. But if you're tripping on salvia there really isn't anyway your going to be playing guitar or bass. Just trip, then jam if you feel up to it. Maybe it'll help you tap into some creative well or something.
[QUOTE=Atta|To|End;34849632]I am goin to a friends house to jam and make music for a while tonight. We are gone get a little drunk from whiskey before, and really high before jammin. I just remembered that I have a gram of 60x salvia aswell.
I've only packed a small lip once (Maybe 1/8 a gram of 60x). That time, I packed a lip with spicy jalapeno pepper seeds to increase blood flow. It only felt like the calm before the storm of a salvia trip, but it never got more intense. Just visuals in my peripherals, warmer colors, slight pattern recognition, and a really inspiring happy feeling (This may have been because it was summer, warm, and I was at a concert)
I'm having trouble finding the point were I wouldn't be able to operate on salvia.
If I wanna trip light enough to still play guitar/bass, how much of it should I pack into my lip? (I'm gona be drinkin while I have a lip of it)
Please don't try to convince me to smoke it. I've smoked enough salvia in my life, and that's not the kind of inspiration I'm looking for this time. I wanna be able to experience things on it.
Anyway, I'm gona pack some of it whether I get an answer or not and report my findings tonight or tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying you want to use it sublingually? People are affected vastly different by salvia, by dosage terms anyway, You used 1/8 of a gram before, if that wasn't enough "trippyness" try more.
Sublingual use won't become a storm, unless maybe you gummed that whole gram
I didn't think salvia worked orally, does packing a lip really work?
You probably got some 10x or something. probly some purple sticky because of it's misleading atomiX system.
Do you want a recreation "tripping" experience or a mind-bending psych shift? If you mention the latter, pack a bowl, use a butane lighter and enjoy your spiritual quest.
Otherwise, just turn back because it will probably be wasted on you and you'll have a terrible experience and you'll be one of those immature assholes who ruins the reputation of Salvia by telling his friends about how scary the world is without objectivity and abstraction.
Seriously, if you don't want to have a mind rebirth don't do it. I personally think it's healthy to re-evaluate your most inner psychological workings every now and then, but this is coming from someone who got a BS in Comp Sci and Math and loves evolutionary psych and Freud.
The entire point of Salvia is to experience everything and nothing at the same time, therefore it is metaphysically impossible to experience just one thing (good luck playing your guitar). Again, this is because we are minds are devoid of objectivity and abstraction, and we jump into a state of pure sensory reception devoid of concepts and past experiences, and view the world "as it is".
[QUOTE=newbz;34854152]Do you want a recreation "tripping" experience or a mind-bending psych shift? If you mention the latter, pack a bowl, use a butane lighter and enjoy your spiritual quest.
Otherwise, just turn back because it will probably be wasted on you and you'll have a terrible experience and you'll be one of those immature assholes who ruins the reputation of Salvia by telling his friends about how scary the world is without objectivity and abstraction.
Seriously, if you don't want to have a mind rebirth don't do it. I personally think it's healthy to re-evaluate your most inner psychological workings every now and then, but this is coming from someone who got a BS in Comp Sci and Math and loves evolutionary psych and Freud.
The entire point of Salvia is to experience everything and nothing at the same time, therefore it is metaphysically impossible to experience just one thing (good luck playing your guitar). Again, this is because we are minds are devoid of objectivity and abstraction, and we jump into a state of pure sensory reception devoid of concepts and past experiences, and view the world "as it is".[/QUOTE]
He's not smoking it, and said he has before, so your post is pretty much useless.. read the op man
I'll either be taking it late tonight or tomorrow night.. my plans changed.
Anyway, I already know what salvia is like. I know how to have a good trip on it, I just don't want it 'that' intense. I wanna trip for a good 2-3 hours so I will be able to experience things, instead of just laying motionless on the floor.
I've tripped on smaller amounts after breaking through. it allowed me to see designs (that I saw after breaking through) appear on paper. It was cool because I could trace the design to the paper.
Everyone will have been drinkin, so I'm not worried about acting strange. I just didn't know if I should take 1/4 gram or 1/2 gram.
The reason I'm using salvia instead of caps or tabs is because it affects different receptors in very different ways. I will definitely be meditating for some part of it. It seems like a more inspiring, and much more intricate trip. When I took 1/8 sublingually I noticed a significance of pattern in tree leaves popping out and moving, but that was the only pattern recognition I noticed.
My last concern is that this will be the first time I'll be using salvia with the devils grass. Has anyone tried with AND without weed?
Meh, take salvia.. then just take it again.. Should be able to play, I have definitely felt the effects of Salvia while playing video games after a slight trip of not being able to play... Weed and salvia just makes it funny
[QUOTE=gRuKz;34853216]You probably got some 10x or something. probly some purple sticky because of it's misleading atomiX system.[/QUOTE]
It's definitely not 10x. If I torch a pinch of it in a bong/bubbler I can almost breakthrough. It does have a reverse tolerance though, and I tend to use it all in a week when I buy it. I broke through extremely hard the second time trying it because I thought I needed more and packed a fat bowl.
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[QUOTE=theinternets;34856084]Meh, take salvia.. then just take it again.. Should be able to play, I have definitely felt the effects of Salvia while playing video games after a slight trip of not being able to play... Weed and salvia just makes it funny[/QUOTE]
I might try that. I don't wanna start laughing though. It's easy to control a good/bad trip, not so easy to control the laughing fits. Though, the laughing trips are pretty good trips.
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[QUOTE=newbz;34854152]
The entire point of Salvia is to experience everything and nothing at the same time, therefore it is metaphysically impossible to experience just one thing (good luck playing your guitar). Again, this is because we are minds are devoid of objectivity and abstraction, and we jump into a state of pure sensory reception devoid of concepts and past experiences, and view the world "as it is".[/QUOTE]
Are you sure you aren't talking about DMT? Salvia shows me how the world isn't, and makes me think about how the universe is. DMT shows me everything at once:v:
Also, what would you guys think about DMT with salvia? waste of DMT?
You gotta chew the salvia and fuck that it tastes so bad I did it once and never again that was terrible
Really? I only tasted it the first 15 seconds it was in my mouth. I didn't swallow any until after I spit out the leaves, then I just washed my mouth out. I honestly didn't think it was that bad.
I brushed my mouth, used mouthwash, and combined moist extract with jalapeno seeds. I swished it in my mouth for the first 30 mins and chewed it at the end. I still didn't taste it that much. This time I'll be swishing it with alcohol.
Did you constantly chew it though? I did it for 30 minutes as well because thats what your meant to do and not swallow any saliva.
I chewed it after 20-30 mins for another 15 mins. It might just be me, but I don't taste things well until I swallow some of it, or allow air flow through my nose*
Also the spice from the jalapeno prevented me from tasting it really. I mostly tasted spice. I'm hoping alcohol will work the same (I'm pretty sure it will)
try 50x its decent as for me i smoked the whole bowl (big bowl but not party sized) in like two hits. The storm of holy fuckness completely wiped my vision.
I don't think you should be taking salvia for the trip you want, try shrooms maybe?
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If you're thinking "I don't want it to be intense and fucking me up" then it's probably gonna happen. Welcome to psychedelics x_x
or take tiny hits of the bowl every now and then, stay on a salvia buzz for a while
chewing extract seems a waste since extracts are p much made to be smoked. if u rly want to chewing as a ROA then chew on salvia leafs not extracts.
extracts still work you just gotta get them a bit moist first
[QUOTE=Werem00se;34850136]It lasts like 10 minutes, so you're not going to be tripping long. And you could take a smaller dose and get the 'calm before the storm' feeling as you described it. But if you're tripping on salvia there really isn't anyway your going to be playing guitar or bass. Just trip, then jam if you feel up to it. Maybe it'll help you tap into some creative well or something.[/QUOTE]
I beg to differ, if you smoke enough to get used to it, you can do pretty much anything, like I can drive a stick shift no problem high off my ass on salvia. I could work high off my ass on salvia
The fuck? theres no way you are smoking salvia if you can do that or you are smoking extremely small amounts.
[QUOTE=Luke F;35128841]I beg to differ, if you smoke enough to get used to it, you can do pretty much anything, like I can drive a stick shift no problem high off my ass on salvia. I could work high off my ass on salvia[/QUOTE]
Are you sure you're smoking extracts? Because I'm pretty sure that either you don't smoke salvia or you just smoke salvia leaves because you can't drive on salvia.
[QUOTE=Joker169;35129520]Are you sure you're smoking extracts? Because I'm pretty sure that either you don't smoke salvia or you just smoke salvia leaves because you can't drive on salvia.[/QUOTE]
I was smoking cloud nine everyday for like 5 months straight its a extract. It gets you fucked up trust me
I'm most likely br picking some up tomorrow, I'll cast me playing some games if you'd like, webcam of me smoking and all
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Dude I think you are thinking of synthetic cannabinoids not salvia, Salvia makes you trip balls for like 10 minutes like you can completely break through into a mental world.
I've tried all kinds of salvia and I havent tripped on it in quite awhile, all i've gotten is a nice high since I really started smoking it like everyday.
I've tried fusion cloud nine defcon head games, and a few others
What the fuck are you on about Im pretty sure you are talking about spice not salvia.
This is what salvia does:
Depending on dosage, the Salvia divinorum experience can vary from a subtle, just-off-baseline state to a full-blown psychedelic experience. At higher doses users report dramatic time distortion, vivid imagery, encounters with beings, travel to other places, planets or times, living years as the paint on a wall or experiencing the full life of another individual. Needless to say these can be extremely powerful experiences and should only be attempted with a sitter. While most people remain unmoving during the experience, some individuals will attempt to get up and walk around while in a completely dissociated state.
While sub-threshold effects are somewhat innocuous--leading some people to be cavalier in subsequent experiences--once full effects are achieved, many people find S. divinorum to be unpleasantly overwhelming and more scary than fun. As has been found with pharmaceutical kappa-opioid agonists, Salvia divinorum is aversive for many who try it.
Onset #
When smoked, the effects of Salvia divinorum generally come on very quickly. First effects are noticed between 20-60 seconds after smoking, increasing to peak effects within 1-2 minutes.
Duration #
The primary effects of Salvia divinorum last between 5-15 minutes. There is then a comedown period of 20-40 minutes before returning to baseline.
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I've tried spice, and spice doesn't do shit to me, and spice isn't even sold in my state anymore it got outlawed like a year ago.
And lets put it this way not even shrooms make me trip and ive tried those 10 to 15 times now, different kinds different doses and they never did anything to me.
Sounds like you got ripped off a lot.
[QUOTE=Luke F;35134549]I've tried spice, and spice doesn't do shit to me, and spice isn't even sold in my state anymore it got outlawed like a year ago.
And lets put it this way not even shrooms make me trip and ive tried those 10 to 15 times now, different kinds different doses and they never did anything to me.[/QUOTE]
You must be really gullible
Well he's definetly and idiot who doesn't know what salvia actually is.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;35143096]Well he's definetly and idiot who doesn't know what salvia actually is.[/QUOTE]
Yea, for instance, there aren't different kinds, just different strengths. what a tool
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