i made a checklist of learning any language, it goes by learning vocabularies in this order
pronunciation
alphabet
writing
reading
pronouns
numbers
hour
colors
learning like muppets and sesame street
nouns
verbs
time verbs
adjetives
gender
plural
possesives
places(in, out, over, under)
greeting phrases
traveling phrases
danger and caution phrases
w questions
body parts
feelings
love expressions
anger expressions
sad expressions
family
objects
furniture
electrodomestics
food
vegitables & fruit
candy
medicine & sickness
clothes
nationalities
holidays
money
jobs
stock characters (pirate, cowboy, ninja, guard, hobo, explorer, villain, hero, distressed damsel, knight, mad doctor, etc....)
cliques
mythology
religion
monsters
magic
art
vehicles
bike
car mechanics
boat
submarine
train
plane
helicopter
zeppelin
construction machines (crane, bulldozer, cement mixer)
nature
disasters
water bodies
beach
forest
island
volcano
desert
jungle
glaciar
cave
swamp
mangroove
mountain
sea
weather and seasons
space
rocks
gems
jewels
plants
mushrooms
animals
birds
mammals
fish
reptiles
bugs
arachnids
amphibians
animal bodyparts
dinosaurs
bacterias
buildings
house
kitchen
bathroom
street
office
town hall
cafe
market
store
toy shop
pet shop
hardware store
drug store
bank
laboratory
factory
library
hotel
prison
car shop
museum
castle
theme park
theatre
school
stadium
radio, tv and movie studio
race track
space station
park
gym
restaurant
hospital
farm
mine
dump
fire station
mall
bar
casino
temple (church, synagogue, mecca)
courthouse
airport
pier
train & bus station
parking lot
millitary
police
army
navy
air force
weapons
power plant
sewer
dam
bridge
boys stuff
girls stuff
baby stuff
men stuff
women stuff
events (wedding, birthday, communion, barmitzva, convention, concert, show)
esoteric cosmology
party
music
instruments
sports
cartoons
animation
superheroes
math
science
technology
videogames
cell phones
robot parts
stereos
internet
aliens
circuits
computer and electronics parts
physics
chemistry
materials
quantum mechanics
biology
psychology
neuroscience
history
news
accounting
business terms
politics
laws
crime
killing types
conspiracies
espionage
millitary tactics
troubles
accidents
philosophy
slang
insults
likes
dislikes
fetishes
reading literature from learning language (exampl: if learning english, read shakespeare, jane austen, beowulf, charles dickens, mark twain)
am i missing something in my list?
I always thought a good way to learn a new language is to watch programs intended for babies in that language.
i have very passion for languages, i curretly speak english, spanish, french, learning japanese and once spoken latin
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[QUOTE=frozensoda;44462568]I always thought a good way to learn a new language is to watch programs intended for babies in that language.[/QUOTE]
you replied fast
Fetishes second to last? Dropped.
[QUOTE=Joz;44462601]Fetishes second to last? Dropped.[/QUOTE]
i thought it would be awkward start with that topic
easier way to learn a language: get kidnapped and dropped in the middle of a country
i want to learn the languages i said plus, italian, protuguese, german, russian, hebrew, arabian, zulu, swahili, africaans, hindu, chinese, korean, polish., modern greek and indonesian, im 22 and i speak 5 languages
[QUOTE=lucarioaaron;44462909]i want to learn the languages i said plus, italian, protuguese, german, russian, hebrew, arabian, zulu, swahili, africaans, hindu, chinese, korean, polish., modern greek and indonesian, im 22 and i speak 5 languages[/QUOTE]
You should work towards becoming a diplomat. Seriously.
Props on all the languages, that's awesome. I myself don't speak any languages except English, but I'd imagine it would be helpful to get an overview of what the overall structure of the language is first.
You know, stuff like:
Which tenses, moods, voices, genders &c. exist in the language?
Which cases are there? How are regular nouns declined?
How are regular verbs conjugated?
How are regular comparatives, participles and verbal nouns/adjectives formed? How are adverbs formed from adjectives?
How do prepositional phrases differ from those in English? How do you make an indirect statement?
I imagine this method would be better for dead inflected languages instead of the ones you can just practice by speaking and learning phrases. Like, if you're not going to be visiting Spain in 3 months, it might be better to learn systematically rather than phrases like 'Necesito medico' or 'Que hora es?'
Also, what are time verbs?
English is my primary language, French is my secondary but I hate it, it's so useless. I will never go to anywhere French in Canada, or to France.
I want to learn Japanese, because I think it would fare better for me than French ever will.
I've had this idea of learning the main continent languages, spanish and english I already (kinda) dominate, I've been slowly going after french (for that couple of cities in canada that use it) and portuguese.
For french I've been trying doulingo, but I'm not doing much to be honest. Congrats on all the languages you know, I would go with italian too maybe.
[QUOTE=Krinkels;44463062]Props on all the languages, that's awesome. I myself don't speak any languages except English, but I'd imagine it would be helpful to get an overview of what the overall structure of the language is first.
You know, stuff like:
Which tenses, moods, voices, genders &c. exist in the language?
Which cases are there? How are regular nouns declined?
How are regular verbs conjugated?
How are regular comparatives, participles and verbal nouns/adjectives formed? How are adverbs formed from adjectives?
How do prepositional phrases differ from those in English? How do you make an indirect statement?
I imagine this method would be better for dead inflected languages instead of the ones you can just practice by speaking and learning phrases. Like, if you're not going to be visiting Spain in 3 months, it might be better to learn systematically rather than phrases like 'Necesito medico' or 'Que hora es?'
Also, what are time verbs?[/QUOTE]
verb tenses
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[QUOTE=frozensoda;44462932]You should work towards becoming a diplomat. Seriously.[/QUOTE]
im studing engineering, but if i travel, to not need a translator, and languages boost gray matter, and i like espionage too
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[QUOTE=frozensoda;44462932]You should work towards becoming a diplomat. Seriously.[/QUOTE]
im studing engineering, but if i travel, to not need a translator, and languages boost gray matter, and i like espionage too
[QUOTE=Karmah;44463110]English is my primary language, French is my secondary but I hate it, it's so useless. I will never go to anywhere French in Canada, or to France.
I want to learn Japanese, because I think it would fare better for me than French ever will.[/QUOTE]
At least you have a second language.
My second language is kindergarten level Spanish. Gotta thank my high school for that.
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;44463178]At least you have a second language.
My second language is kindergarten level Spanish. Gotta thank my high school for that.[/QUOTE]
no te sientas mal
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;44463178]At least you have a second language.
My second language is kindergarten level Spanish. Gotta thank my high school for that.[/QUOTE]
It's so useless though.
I was taught it all the way through to high school, and the only vocabulary they liked to teach us was pertaining to stereotypical french stuff.
So yeah I can talk about the Eiffel tower and baguettes and a man named Jacques, but where's the practicality for these things in everyday usage? I can conjugate automatically, but my vocabulary is absent.
If you want more vocabulary, can't you just go down to the dollar store and get a French-English dictionary?
is anything missing on my list?
I think that list is exhaustive.
I have a pretty good english level. Well, my grammar is quite fucked up, but that is a problem that will be overcome with the years until I get used to think in ENGLISH -> TEXT and not in SPANISH -> ENGLISH -> TEXT. Hearing and understanding is not a problem for me any more. I can listen to whatever you name, BBC, CNN, movies, and I understand perfectly.
And I've started learning German on my own on January. Bought a "Demystified" book and it's quite good. Thankfully, due to having had latin classes in my high school, it's 100% times easier as declinations are a piece of cake.
[B]I think the first thing one should try to learn is the most basic, common sentences. Such as knowing how to answer back a compliment, how to ask the time, directions, places.
Even though I have a CAE degree, while I was in the states, I had a hard time speaking "casual" stuff. I had to ask my uncle who lived there how to answer back a "thank you", and the answer was "thank you too".[/B]
I would have never imagined that "too".
Many people ask me why German and not Spanish. Well for one thing, it's more related to English than to Spanish and I find it's pronunciation 10000 times easier than, say, portuguese or french.
Next one: Italian.
[QUOTE=Pernoccuous;44462769]easier way to learn a language: get kidnapped and dropped in the middle of a country[/QUOTE]
A drowning man cannot learn to swim.
nice, other people who's passionate about language learning, my mother tongue in danish and i can speak english and german! I'm currently learning Spanish, started in august last year from not being able to say or understand anything , to now, knowing the overall basics and general things. It's awesome, you can draw so many parallels to english with it, and ofcourse the latin language family of french and italian.
I'm planning to visit south america after summer and improve alot more, especially since there is over 400 million spanish speakers in the world! Me gusta hablado español :D i find it amazing how fast i've learned + watching tv shows with spanish subs helps greatly
[QUOTE]I'm planning to visit south america after summer and improve alot more, especially since there is over 400 million spanish speakers in the world![/QUOTE]
I would recommend going to Colombia or Uruguay.
The way Spanish is pronounced elsewhere is quite alienating to those who speak Spanish-Spanish or Neutral-Spanish.
Colombians, of all south Americans, are the ones that sound most like Spanish-Spanish, and Uruguayans speak like Argentines but not so fast and with waaaaay less local slang.
EDIT: As an Argentine I have a:
Easy time understanding people from:
-Colombia
-Uruguay
-Paraguay
-Mexico
-Peru
Thanks brah, that's really useful! I've had Colombia in my mind for some time so seeing that is nice. I'm being taught Neutral-Spanish (Castellano i think it's called) but my teacher has been traveling around central america and cuba alot so he knows a little about the dialects there and differences between latin american spanish and european spanish, which is interesting.
am i missing something on my list?
it goes against everything i ever learned about human psychology and linguistics to make a list like this and then follow it step by step to learn a language but i mean that list is pretty comprehensive
oh and for merit i currently speak english and german, in the meantime i am learning russian, dutch, danish, swedish, AND romanian. russian takes kind of the backburner because cyrillics really bum me out but the rest of those languages are progressing roughly the same speed
Reading Shakespeare made my English worse. I don't recommend it.
edit: wrong
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;44463756]A drowning man cannot learn to swim.[/QUOTE]
You'll never learn how to swim if you never go in the water.
Why am I supposed to learn monsters in a foreign language before learning things like the bank and stores
I know Slovenian (mother language), english (second language, and I actually think in it because I am programmer) and a little bit of spanish. Nothing serious
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