im at work but ill help you later.
1. yes it's expensive to eat "crazily healthy" which is why it's a lifestyle. I'd eat crazily healthy but it costs way to much for me sadly. So i eat as well as i can.
2. do you really want this? if you really want this you wouldnt fall short on your workouts.
3. save up for a gym membership, it's easier and more efficient for you to reach your goals, it'll make you more confident, happy and healthy aswell. Fuck ask for a membership as a christmas present or birthday present.
4. rule numero four; focus on yourself when you're going the way of fitness, you can look up to people like Arnold or whatever you want but don't compare yourself. People do this and get demotivated, everyone is different. Good genetics or bad genetics you're here to change your lifestyle, reap YOUR gains.
[editline]13th November 2013[/editline]
just teachin u the philops
Actually OP, eating 'crazy healthy' can sometimes be cheaper than eating unhealthily. Sorry to impose, but how much is your weekly food shop? I cram all I need to into £25 a week.
Regarding your equipment setup, like the other guy said, get a gym membership. It IS much more efficient had allows you to have a very varied workout.
You won't get anywhere near Arnold anytime soon. That fact may demoralize you, but its the truth. One thing many new guys to the gym do is follow a bodybuilders routine (I swear I've seen a group of guys doing Zyzz's old routine in my gym) and they get almost nowhere. These routines work because the guys who did them had already lifted for a long time and had also jumped on roids.
Also it IS possible to build muscle and lose fat at the same time, it is just pretty unlikely and depends a lot upon your own genetics and body. I'd say you should focus on adding msucle first so you don't look like an auschwitz survivor before you add mass (plus liklihood is you'll add fat on during the period were you add mass anyway). Without anymore information from you Tacooo, the best I can say right now is eat as clean as possible.
[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;42849141]Actually OP, eating 'crazy healthy' can sometimes be cheaper than eating unhealthily. Sorry to impose, but how much is your weekly food shop? I cram all I need to into £25 a week.
Regarding your equipment setup, like the other guy said, get a gym membership. It IS much more efficient had allows you to have a very varied workout.
You won't get anywhere near Arnold anytime soon. That fact may demoralize you, but its the truth. One thing many new guys to the gym do is follow a bodybuilders routine (I swear I've seen a group of guys doing Zyzz's old routine in my gym) and they get almost nowhere. These routines work because the guys who did them had already lifted for a long time and had also jumped on roids.
Also it IS possible to build muscle and lose fat at the same time, it is just pretty unlikely and depends a lot upon your own genetics and body. I'd say you should focus on adding msucle first so you don't look like an auschwitz survivor before you add mass (plus liklihood is you'll add fat on during the period were you add mass anyway). Without anymore information from you Tacooo, the best I can say right now is eat as clean as possible.[/QUOTE]
depends on cuntry.
it's expensive for me unless i go around stores looking for sales on chicken or beef.
In Britian I can get 12 chicken breasts for £10.
I suppose it does.
uk is so fucking cheap its not even funny
[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;42849141]Also it IS possible to build muscle and lose fat at the same time[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to adress this point. Building muscle and losing fat is simply impossible as they're literal opposites. However, building muscles and going down in body fat% is possible if you bulk and gain more muscles than fat, however this would require an absolutely perfect diet counted down to the single calorie and would probably require some great genatacs.
[QUOTE=Heigou;42850028]Just wanted to adress this point. Building muscle and losing fat is simply impossible as they're literal opposites. However, building muscles and going down in body fat% is possible if you bulk and gain more muscles than fat, however this would require an absolutely perfect diet counted down to the single calorie and would probably require some great genatacs.[/QUOTE]
I'd love to see some research showing just how impossible it is to gain muscle while losing fat. How come thousands upon thousands of people manage to do this, yet people keep saying it's impossible?
I think for beginners like him it's possible to build muscle as you lose fat cause of noob gains, he never really worked out 'serious' for a strict amount of time so if he gets his diet down sure he will lose fat and gain some muscle since his body isn't used to it. (thats what i think)
[QUOTE=Oblivion470;42900812]I'd love to see some research showing just how impossible it is to gain muscle while losing fat. How come thousands upon thousands of people manage to do this, yet people keep saying it's impossible?[/QUOTE]
piss off smartass..... i'd love to see a fraction of these 'thousand of people who manage to do this' as you seem to rely on this fact to go all guns and blazing on someone who knows what he's doing... why would he lie?
piss off
[QUOTE=Monkey san;42848642]1. yes it's expensive to eat "crazily healthy" which is why it's a lifestyle. I'd eat crazily healthy but it costs way to much for me sadly. So i eat as well as i can.[/QUOTE]
No it's not, I've been eating 200g chicken, 200g of sweet potato, mushrooms, lettuce, and carrot for the past couple weeks and it literally costs me about less than $4 a meal.
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
and its a big fucking meal
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
Oh just saw you're from Norway, how much does chicken breast cost there? It cost about $11 per kg in Aus, and sweet potato costs about $5 per kilo
[QUOTE=Oblivion470;42900812]I'd love to see some research showing just how impossible it is to gain muscle while losing fat. How come thousands upon thousands of people manage to do this, yet people keep saying it's impossible?[/QUOTE]
Because there's thousands upon thousands of people fucking bullshitting. It's basic physiology.
[QUOTE=Heigou;42902605]Because there's thousands upon thousands of people fucking bullshitting. It's basic physiology.[/QUOTE]
i think that as novices lose fat, they see definition from the muscles that were always there so they assume it was never there and that they built it
[QUOTE=Seith;42901480]piss off smartass..... i'd love to see a fraction of these 'thousand of people who manage to do this' as you seem to rely on this fact to go all guns and blazing on someone who knows what he's doing... why would he lie?
piss off[/QUOTE]
Turn down your testosterone levels you little shit, I was simply asking a question.
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Heigou;42902605]Because there's thousands upon thousands of people fucking bullshitting. It's basic physiology.[/QUOTE]
I am by no means an expert, but I outweigh myself from a year ago because of the gained muscle, and I've lost 6% bodyfat in the period. Is it because I'm not following a strict plan? My calorie intake does vary from week to week, maybe I'm just slightly cutting sometimes without really planning to.
I can't make sense of it.
just lift u phaggot. it's not hard. you lift and eat and you get bigger. l2think
[QUOTE=Oblivion470;42903343]Turn down your testosterone levels you little shit, I was simply asking a question.
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
I am by no means an expert, but I outweigh myself from a year ago because of the gained muscle, and I've lost 6% bodyfat in the period. Is it because I'm not following a strict plan? My calorie intake does vary from week to week, maybe I'm just slightly cutting sometimes without really planning to.
I can't make sense of it.[/QUOTE]
You can lose bodyfat% while gaining muscles, losing bodyfat% does not necessarily mean losing fat, as an example, a fat gain of .2 lbs but a muscle gain of .3 lbs would effectively reduce your bodyfat% and you haven't lost any fat at all.
Strictly LOSING fat and GAINING muscles though is simply impossible.
basic anabolism rule. insulin triggers anabolism but it also triggers fat being deposited (from carbs most likely).
cortisol/adrenaline will kill your fat but doesn't go well with anabolism since they're catabolic hormones thus it blocks that lol get it?.
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
a smart approach to minimize fat gains and maximize anabolic response is mainly to eat very little fast sugars after training to give you an insulin spike to quickly change metabolism, then consume oats some time after for a prolonged medium insulin response. then complete with lotsa proteins and vitamins and a bit of fats too.
mainly this is the theory but your metabolism is different and your body can adapt to anything as long as you don't have piss poor genetics. or you have a high intensity training thus no matter how much carbs you get after, the body will mainly use it to repair itself.
nooooooooo just noooooooooooo blah2 noooooooooooooo
yes the last part went downhill towards magic, wats ur problem???111
[QUOTE=Heigou;42905375]You can lose bodyfat% while gaining muscles, losing bodyfat% does not necessarily mean losing fat, as an example, a fat gain of .2 lbs but a muscle gain of .3 lbs would effectively reduce your bodyfat% and you haven't lost any fat at all.
Strictly LOSING fat and GAINING muscles though is simply impossible.[/QUOTE]
That makes so much sense. Thanks
[QUOTE=blah2;42906307]basic anabolism rule. insulin triggers anabolism but it also triggers fat being deposited (from carbs most likely).
cortisol/adrenaline will kill your fat but doesn't go well with anabolism since they're catabolic hormones thus it blocks that lol get it?.
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
a smart approach to minimize fat gains and maximize anabolic response is mainly to eat very little fast sugars after training to give you an insulin spike to quickly change metabolism, then consume oats some time after for a prolonged medium insulin response. then complete with lotsa proteins and vitamins and a bit of fats too.
mainly this is the theory but your metabolism is different and your body can adapt to anything as long as you don't have piss poor genetics. or you have a high intensity training thus no matter how much carbs you get after, the body will mainly use it to repair itself.[/QUOTE]
wtf is this nerde shit.
[QUOTE=Badballer;42902529]No it's not, I've been eating 200g chicken, 200g of sweet potato, mushrooms, lettuce, and carrot for the past couple weeks and it literally costs me about less than $4 a meal.
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
and its a big fucking meal
[editline]18th November 2013[/editline]
Oh just saw you're from Norway, how much does chicken breast cost there? It cost about $11 per kg in Aus, and sweet potato costs about $5 per kilo[/QUOTE]
Chicken breasts cost about $25+ in Norway, can't remember how many kilos those bags are though.
[QUOTE=Oblivion470;42900812]I'd love to see some research showing just how impossible it is to gain muscle while losing fat. How come thousands upon thousands of people manage to do this, yet people keep saying it's impossible?[/QUOTE]
You making some shit up because you want to believe it doesn't make it so.
But w/e retard, feel free to try and come back in a year and have a cry when you've made no or little progress towards either end of the spectrum at all.
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